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Packers First Round - Jordan Love - POLL ADDED

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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#141 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 am

msiris wrote:Miami got an extra pick making us look stupid.We could have gotten him at 30 easy. Any arm chair GM would have known that.

Sorry, editing my initial response, was a bit harsh. I just don't understand this line of thought at all. Teams move back up into the back end of the 1st round for QBs all the time. It's not that hard to understand that part of it.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#142 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:30 am

He looked great in 2018, to be fair to Love. Positively brilliant.
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Post#143 » by MissKhriddleton » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:31 am

Sure, Rodgers might play 3-4 more years, but one more bad injury and he could be done too.
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Post#144 » by Jollay » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:31 am

It should also be noted that the Pats and Saints had a way bigger need for a young QB than us, and both passed.

It will be even more infuriating if the Saints excel with Hill some day and we bust with Love.

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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#145 » by tski1972 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:31 am

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M-C-G wrote:Not a fan of this type of argument. A coach leaving a college for a bigger gig is a REALLY big deal for these somewhat smaller programs. Picking the stats of one game against one of the best teams in the nation is a bit unfair.

Again, NOT the move I would have made after extending Rodgers, but let’s not take it out on the kid drafted.


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17-33 against Colorado St. 2td/2int
13-31 against Nevada 1td/1int
18-35 against New Mexico 3tds/1int

Right, but assuming those are games from this season, my point remains he lost his coach and probably quality recruits and had to learn a new system with less talent. AGAIN NOT what I would have done and simply saying don’t take it out on Love, not his fault, that is all.


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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#146 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:32 am

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msiris wrote:Miami got an extra pick making us look stupid.We could have gotten him at 30 easy. Any arm chair GM would have known that. Stupid. Gary and Love can play catch on the sideline while ARod tries to get to Superbowl with no help. Love might be a good player down the road but it might be 4 years from now.


Don't know how people are screwing this up.

There was an obvious danger of a team in round two jumping back into round one to nab Love.

The Packers only had to give up a 4th to get the guy who they see is the obvious franchise successor to Rodgers.

It was a no brainer deal and one you had to make if you think that highly of Love.

Because I wanted to be in the position to trade down, I feel pretty confident Indy, Det and maybe Car had interest in getting into the first for a QB. I was hoping we would be trading down with any of them


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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#147 » by JayMKE » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:34 am

Thinking its a wasted bad pick isn't taking it out on Love, he'll have to prove himself like everybody else. Maybe he succeeds but most likely he's a bust and we have to wait 3 years to find out and at least another before we can ****can Gute for it, hell of a gamble and I think they is a lot of room between out of the league and HOF. Boom, bust, some flaccid in between.
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Post#148 » by msiris » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:34 am

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msiris wrote:Miami got an extra pick making us look stupid.We could have gotten him at 30 easy. Any arm chair GM would have known that. Stupid. Gary and Love can play catch on the sideline while ARod tries to get to Superbowl with no help. Love might be a good player down the road but it might be 4 years from now.


Don't know how people are screwing this up.

There was an obvious danger of a team in round two jumping back into round one to nab Love.

The Packers only had to give up a 4th to get the guy who they see is the obvious franchise successor to Rodgers.

It was a no brainer deal and one you had to make if you think that highly of Love.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#149 » by stillgotgame » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:35 am

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stillgotgame wrote:15/30, 0 TD 3 INT in a blowout loss to LSU. Quite the competitor.

Not a fan of this type of argument. A coach leaving a college for a bigger gig is a REALLY big deal for these somewhat smaller programs. Picking the stats of one game against one of the best teams in the nation is a bit unfair.

Again, NOT the move I would have made after extending Rodgers, but let’s not take it out on the kid drafted.

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They were 27 1/2 point underdogs. His reaction to adversity was what?

How about Rodgers and Favre in college under adversity:
Favre leads Southern Miss to an upset of FSU. 22 point underdog.
Rodgers completed 23 consecutive passes against #1 USC.

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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#150 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:36 am

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17-33 against Colorado St. 2td/2int
13-31 against Nevada 1td/1int
18-35 against New Mexico 3tds/1int

Right, but assuming those are games from this season, my point remains he lost his coach and probably quality recruits and had to learn a new system with less talent. AGAIN NOT what I would have done and simply saying don’t take it out on Love, not his fault, that is all.


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I don't think anyone is angry with Jordan Love, I think they're angry with Brian Gutekunst.


I think there are some that are just angry, I am not a fan of the move but I will be watching a lot of Love clips tomorrow. The little I have seen, he can do some very Rodgers / Mahtomedi type things but what makes those guys great is their brains and not just arm talent. I literally have no idea if this guy has anything beyond arm talent.

If he has the arm talent and a brain, then any particular performance is irrelevant to me if I am not planning on him being a starter for two years. It’s all about what he could become


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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#151 » by LittleRooster » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:36 am

stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:15/30, 0 TD 3 INT in a blowout loss to LSU. Quite the competitor.

Not a fan of this type of argument. A coach leaving a college for a bigger gig is a REALLY big deal for these somewhat smaller programs. Picking the stats of one game against one of the best teams in the nation is a bit unfair.

Again, NOT the move I would have made after extending Rodgers, but let’s not take it out on the kid drafted.

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They were 27 1/2 point underdogs. His reaction to adversity was what?

How about Rodgers and Favre in college under adversity:
Favre leads Southern Miss to an upset of FSU. 22 point underdog.
Rodgers completed 23 consecutive passes against #1 USC.

Leaders shine in big games, regardless of the talent around them.

Like Rodgers last year against the 49ers?


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Post#152 » by JEIS » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:37 am

I get the vibe he is a d bag. I could be wrong, but he seems pretty unlikable. I hope he turns out to be awesome.
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Post#154 » by RiotPunch » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:38 am

I'm on record as being a big Love fan. I'm just shocked that Gutey had the balls to make an aggressive move for a non-contributor for next season when we were a game away from the Owl.

Very risky, but I respect it. Hope now he gets aggressive in getting Aaron some weapons.
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Post#155 » by PintSizedBox10 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:38 am

Holy crap just read this was the first time the Packers drafted an offense skill position player in the 1st round since... Rodgers. The longest such streak in the league

That seems insane


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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#156 » by JayMKE » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:40 am

M-C-G wrote:
tski1972 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Right, but assuming those are games from this season, my point remains he lost his coach and probably quality recruits and had to learn a new system with less talent. AGAIN NOT what I would have done and simply saying don’t take it out on Love, not his fault, that is all.


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I don't think anyone is angry with Jordan Love, I think they're angry with Brian Gutekunst.


I think there are some that are just angry, I am not a fan of the move but I will be watching a lot of Love clips tomorrow. The little I have seen, he can do some very Rodgers / Mahtomedi type things but what makes those guys great is their brains and not just arm talent. I literally have no idea if this guy has anything beyond arm talent.

If he has the arm talent and a brain, then any particular performance is irrelevant to me if I am not planning on him being a starter for two years. It’s all about what he could become


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I think the hope is he develops a brain in the next 3 years to match his physical gifts, I don't ever like counting on that happening. I think less arm talent with more brains is a better prospect than more arm talent and less brains.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#157 » by msiris » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:41 am

LittleRooster wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Not a fan of this type of argument. A coach leaving a college for a bigger gig is a REALLY big deal for these somewhat smaller programs. Picking the stats of one game against one of the best teams in the nation is a bit unfair.

Again, NOT the move I would have made after extending Rodgers, but let’s not take it out on the kid drafted.

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They were 27 1/2 point underdogs. His reaction to adversity was what?

How about Rodgers and Favre in college under adversity:
Favre leads Southern Miss to an upset of FSU. 22 point underdog.
Rodgers completed 23 consecutive passes against #1 USC.

Leaders shine in big games, regardless of the talent around them.

Like Rodgers last year against the 49ers?


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Post#158 » by DrWood » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:41 am

Love is a legitimate prospect, but Gutekunst was stupid to do this, unless there are FA's lined up to fill every need.
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Post#159 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:42 am

stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:15/30, 0 TD 3 INT in a blowout loss to LSU. Quite the competitor.

Not a fan of this type of argument. A coach leaving a college for a bigger gig is a REALLY big deal for these somewhat smaller programs. Picking the stats of one game against one of the best teams in the nation is a bit unfair.

Again, NOT the move I would have made after extending Rodgers, but let’s not take it out on the kid drafted.

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They were 27 1/2 point underdogs. His reaction to adversity was what?

How about Rodgers and Favre in college under adversity:
Favre leads Southern Miss to an upset of FSU. 22 point underdog.
Rodgers completed 23 consecutive passes against #1 USC.

Leaders shine in big games, regardless of the talent around them.

Slow your roll man, what if his WR are really sloppy running routes? We have already read plenty his WR this year created about the least separation of any program this year.

I just think your argument is flawed and has a low,correlation with NFL success. I am guessing I can find a **** Mahomes or Rodgers game against a good team but I don’t see what purpose that solves.

Our guys evaluated something and thought he was worth moving up to get. I didn’t. And not what I would have done, but I think you need to take in the context of the season to get the full picture. I’ll be reading and watching a lot tomorrow because I honestly didn’t think we were considering an early QB


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Post#160 » by msiris » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:44 am

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msiris wrote:Miami got an extra pick making us look stupid.We could have gotten him at 30 easy. Any arm chair GM would have known that.

Sorry, editing my initial response, was a bit harsh. I just don't understand this line of thought at all. Teams move back up into the back end of the 1st round for QBs all the time. It's not that hard to understand that part of it.
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