Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - 2023 Off Season

PintSizedBox10 · Post #1401 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 2:41 pm

Cursed season

Edit: It's time for the NFL to ban turf already.

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Post #1402 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 2:44 pm

I wonder when the eject button happens and they make a switch at QB? I wouldn't expect Love to look any better, but a normal team would still use this trash season and the remaining games to see what they have.

Post #1403 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 2:49 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I wonder when the eject button happens and they make a switch at QB? I wouldn't expect Love to look any better, but a normal team would still use this trash season and the remaining games to see what they have.

Rather find out this year about Love than wait. Of course he'll have the same mostly crappy line and no WR's to work with. But maybe a more mobile QB would be a good thing. Nothing to lose.

Ryan5UW · Post #1404 » by **Ryan5UW** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 2:51 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I wonder when the eject button happens and they make a switch at QB? I wouldn't expect Love to look any better, but a normal team would still use this trash season and the remaining games to see what they have.

Rather find out this year about Love than wait. Of course he'll have the same mostly crappy line and no WR's to work with. But maybe a more mobile QB would be a good thing. Nothing to lose.

Hey, maybe he'll throw some passes to where the WRs are instead of where they're supposed to be, or he thinks they'll adjust the routes to or whatever...

Swan Vox · Post #1405 » by **Swan Vox** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 2:55 pm

Feel gutted for Bane Gary. He consistently brings it and made a lot of folks look silly for calling him “lazy” on draft day. You never know with ACL’s, but I have faith in Rashan to do everything in his power to come back as strong as ever. Heal up king.

MikeIsGood · Post #1406 » by **MikeIsGood** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:27 pm

I don't know that someone could have possibly come up with worse news. Feeling absolutely gutted for Gary, who was one of the lone bright spots on the team, and for whom I was so happy to see succeeding individually. ****.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1407 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:28 pm

It would be organizational negligence to not see what you have in love with decision on his 5th yr option coming up.

It gets a little tricky if Rodgers actually wants to retire because you would want to do some kind of send off even in a meaningless game.

Plus if Rodgers wants to come back to GB next year then playing Love could improve his trade value. I don't think it's real high now so no real worry of making it worse if he sucks.

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Post #1408 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:33 pm

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MoMM · Post #1409 » by **MoMM** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:36 pm

Give some more games to Rodgers and when we are 3-9/3-10 we start Love, because I don't think Aaron will be any happy if we bench him right now.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1410 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:39 pm

MoMM wrote:Give some more games to Rodgers and when we are 3-9/3-10 we start Love, because I don't think Aaron will be any happy if we bench him right now.

Agreed, although if the thumb is bothering him maybe they could get him to rest it for a week or two.

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Post #1411 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:41 pm

Ryan5UW wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I wonder when the eject button happens and they make a switch at QB? I wouldn't expect Love to look any better, but a normal team would still use this trash season and the remaining games to see what they have.

Rather find out this year about Love than wait. Of course he'll have the same mostly crappy line and no WR's to work with. But maybe a more mobile QB would be a good thing. Nothing to lose.

Hey, maybe he'll throw some passes to where the WRs are instead of where they're supposed to be, or he thinks they'll adjust the routes to or whatever...

But that's an NFL offense. You don't throw to guys who are standing still. It's timing and route adjustments based the defense. Bad routes/bad adjustments are a big part of our offensive woes (as well as just plain bad throws). Love has to be able to make those throws to be a good NFL QB. He'll have the same raw receivers. As well as clueless Sammy. That said he needs the experience, even with the crappy receivers. I'm assuming Doubs is out at least this week. Watson is back in concussion protocol. Lazard and Toure along with Amari is a challenge for any QB.

Post #1412 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 3:42 pm

It wouldn't shock me if Sammy is cut this week, even as the Packers are desperate for bodies.

zmanishere11 · Post #1413 » by **zmanishere11** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 4:19 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:It wouldn't shock me if Sammy is cut this week, even as the Packers are desperate for bodies.

It's crazy how bad Watkins has been.

0 chemistry with Rodgers, running the wrong routes, didn't even try to block his guy on that 4th down play last week. Just shocking. More of a net negative than Amari Rodgers on the field which I didn't think was possible

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1414 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 4:38 pm

Yeah it's a minor thing at this point but Watkins getting snaps or even taking up a spot on the 53 is negligent. Give Winfree or some other young dude off the street a look.

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BUCKnation · Post #1415 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 4:54 pm

Its a shame watson is made of glass, bc he has actually looked decent on his 10 plays this season.

MoMM · Post #1416 » by **MoMM** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 5:24 pm

BUCKnation wrote:Its a shame watson is made of glass, bc he has actually looked decent on his 10 plays this season.

Like the 75-yard TD drop?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1417 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 5:50 pm

MoMM wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:Its a shame watson is made of glass, bc he has actually looked decent on his 10 plays this season.

Like the 75-yard TD drop?

Well he was open.

I'm not going to kill a guy for a drop in litterally his first NFL play. Now getting hurt every time he takes a hit is the concerning part.

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Kerb Hohl · Post #1418 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 6:10 pm

So I think this is a tough as hell situation if I have this right.

-We have to decide on the $20 million 5th year option on Love in a few months, right?
-But Rodgers is almost impossible to deal, he probably won't retire, either way he's going to cost like $50-90 million to not be on the team next year
-I think he's playing like **** - but I don't know if he's 100% washed. If you bench him to tank/try out Love, you are killing any trade value and it would be almost impossible to try one last last ride in 2023 and get some guys healthy. I wouldn't advocate for this, but we are kinda stuck with Rodgers for next year so it has to be on the table.
-If Love does play, it's going to be hard as hell to evaluate him with minimal offensive talent. And then you have to decide if he's worth $20+ million in 2024 a few months from now.

I may not have the details correct, somebody can help me out there. We are basically committed to way too much at QB in 2023-2024 to do anything.

Post #1419 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 6:18 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:So I think this is a tough as hell situation if I have this right.

-We have to decide on the $20 million 5th year option on Love in a few months, right?
-But Rodgers is almost impossible to deal, he probably won't retire, either way he's going to cost like $50-90 million to not be on the team next year
-I think he's playing like **** - but I don't know if he's 100% washed. If you bench him to tank/try out Love, you are killing any trade value and it would be almost impossible to try one last last ride in 2023 and get some guys healthy.
-If Love does play, it's going to be hard as hell to evaluate him with minimal offensive talent.

I may not have the details correct, somebody can help me out there. We are basically committed to way too much at QB in 2023-2024 to do anything.

Love is still cheap in 2023. My guess is they turn down the 5th year option and/or try and work out an extension that reduces the cap hit in 2024 but gives them outs if they decide he isn't the guy.

If they don't want Rodgers next season they have to hope he retires or another team wants him via trade. A trade before June 1st means a $40 million cap hit. After June 1st means a $15 million cap hit next year and $25 in '24.

Kerb Hohl · Post #1420 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Mon Nov 7, 2022 6:20 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:So I think this is a tough as hell situation if I have this right.

-We have to decide on the $20 million 5th year option on Love in a few months, right?
-But Rodgers is almost impossible to deal, he probably won't retire, either way he's going to cost like $50-90 million to not be on the team next year
-I think he's playing like **** - but I don't know if he's 100% washed. If you bench him to tank/try out Love, you are killing any trade value and it would be almost impossible to try one last last ride in 2023 and get some guys healthy.
-If Love does play, it's going to be hard as hell to evaluate him with minimal offensive talent.

I may not have the details correct, somebody can help me out there. We are basically committed to way too much at QB in 2023-2024 to do anything.

Love is still cheap in 2023. My guess is they turn down the 5th year option and/or try and work out an extension that reduces the cap hit in 2024 but gives them outs if they decide he isn't the guy.

If they don't want Rodgers next season they have to hope he retires or another team wants him via trade. A trade before June 1st means a $40 million cap hit. After June 1st means a $15 million cap hit next year and $25 in '24.

Makes sense.

I thought retiring costs them like $70 million on the cap next year.

I don't see 12 retiring with how much he is motivated by money, though. Unless he gets a TV deal that pays him almost as much or something and he decides he's done enough.