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Post#1501 » by MVP2110 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:54 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Secondary (specifically corner) is the only legitimate weakness I can find worth complaining about. A couple converted slot corners and a converted WR does feel like a pretty risky gamble with a lot riding on the shoulders of someone like Valentine to turn into more than just a guy. Everything else (Love not being elite enough, health/injuries) is of the elbows-too-pointy variety that pretty much every fanbase can complain about in any given season. You can never have too many pass rushers and I don't really care if that means guys like Enagbare and Brenton Cox get squeezed out of the rotation.


I'm less worried about CB than I am DT. I'm not sure Wooden/Brinson/Stackhouse can hold up in the run game. But I also trust Hafley to figure it out
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Post#1502 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:34 am

The way I feel about defending the run is about how I feel about NBA defenses giving up midrange shots. Like, sure, go ahead and run the ball. If means you're not passing for 20 yard chunks, go ahead.
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Post#1503 » by Treebeard » Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:34 am

With the anticipated powerful pass rush, and debatable strength of the middle DL and corners, is it likely that opponents may emphasize running between the tackles and shorter passes? The theory being quick pressure on the QB
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ReasonablySober wrote:The way I feel about defending the run is about how I feel about NBA defenses giving up midrange shots. Like, sure, go ahead and run the ball. If means you're not passing for 20 yard chunks, go ahead.

I don't think you want teams to run the ball on Green Bay with success. It's the easiest way to win a game. Plus it keeps Micah from doing what he does best. I think it's paramount that we stop the run this year so we can unleash Micah and co. as much as possible. Slaton was a beast last year vs the run and were going to miss him a lot. I hope Stackhouse can give us something, if not we'll need to find a better option in the middle.
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Post#1505 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:56 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:The way I feel about defending the run is about how I feel about NBA defenses giving up midrange shots. Like, sure, go ahead and run the ball. If means you're not passing for 20 yard chunks, go ahead.

I don't think you want teams to run the ball on Green Bay with success. It's the easiest way to win a game. Plus it keeps Micah from doing what he does best. I think it's paramount that we stop the run this year so we can unleash Micah and co. as much as possible. Slaton was a beast last year vs the run and were going to miss him a lot. I hope Stackhouse can give us something, if not we'll need to find a better option in the middle.


I think that's an inherit benefit of having Parsons, is forcing teams to run the ball. Let them if they want to. I'll take my chances against a team resigned to running the ball 30 times a game.
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ReasonablySober wrote:The way I feel about defending the run is about how I feel about NBA defenses giving up midrange shots. Like, sure, go ahead and run the ball. If means you're not passing for 20 yard chunks, go ahead.

I don't think you want teams to run the ball on Green Bay with success. It's the easiest way to win a game. Plus it keeps Micah from doing what he does best. I think it's paramount that we stop the run this year so we can unleash Micah and co. as much as possible. Slaton was a beast last year vs the run and were going to miss him a lot. I hope Stackhouse can give us something, if not we'll need to find a better option in the middle.


I think that's an inherit benefit of having Parsons, is forcing teams to run the ball. Let them if they want to. I'll take my chances against a team resigned to running the ball 30 times a game.

One thing is sure teams will try to establish the run early vs GB because trying to come out throwing would be like throwing yourself into the lion's den. At least Hafley will know it's coming and plan accordingly. Maybe this is how they make it work after losing Kenny and Slaton.
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Post#1507 » by Matches Malone » Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:44 am

Speaking of stopping the run, I'd let Christian Wilkins kiss a few guys on the head if he wants to help the Packers plug the A-Gap. He's still a good run defender and could be an option if none of the young guys in the rotation stand out.
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Post#1508 » by raysbookclub » Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:12 am

ReasonablySober wrote:The way I feel about defending the run is about how I feel about NBA defenses giving up midrange shots. Like, sure, go ahead and run the ball. If means you're not passing for 20 yard chunks, go ahead.


Except when it’s the Niners in the playoffs and they run it so easily that Jimmy Garapolo attempts less than ten passes in a not close game.
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Post#1509 » by JCP11 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:30 am

Matches Malone wrote:Speaking of stopping the run, I'd let Christian Wilkins kiss a few guys on the head if he wants to help the Packers plug the A-Gap. He's still a good run defender and could be an option if none of the young guys in the rotation stand out.

LOL I'll take my chances with Stackhouse!
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Post#1510 » by JCP11 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:59 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:Secondary (specifically corner) is the only legitimate weakness I can find worth complaining about. A couple converted slot corners and a converted WR does feel like a pretty risky gamble with a lot riding on the shoulders of someone like Valentine to turn into more than just a guy. Everything else (Love not being elite enough, health/injuries) is of the elbows-too-pointy variety that pretty much every fanbase can complain about in any given season. You can never have too many pass rushers and I don't really care if that means guys like Enagbare and Brenton Cox get squeezed out of the rotation.


I'm less worried about CB than I am DT. I'm not sure Wooden/Brinson/Stackhouse can hold up in the run game. But I also trust Hafley to figure it out
I've been vocal about my concerns about the DT position (specifically the one tech) but I'll say this. I think the Packers may have something in Stackhouse and Brinson. They've played well in the preseason games vs some actual NFL starters and backups and you can see that these two know how to play the run and it shows they've played together a lot at Georgia. Usually it takes time to grow into this position but I can already say that both are already ahead of rookie Slaton. Will it be enough to stop the run for a full 17 games? That's another question but these 2 are very promising.
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Post#1511 » by crowhead76 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:25 pm

I would be monitoring the Trevon Diggs situation in Dallas if I were the Packers.
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Post#1512 » by MVP2110 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:42 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:Secondary (specifically corner) is the only legitimate weakness I can find worth complaining about. A couple converted slot corners and a converted WR does feel like a pretty risky gamble with a lot riding on the shoulders of someone like Valentine to turn into more than just a guy. Everything else (Love not being elite enough, health/injuries) is of the elbows-too-pointy variety that pretty much every fanbase can complain about in any given season. You can never have too many pass rushers and I don't really care if that means guys like Enagbare and Brenton Cox get squeezed out of the rotation.


I'm less worried about CB than I am DT. I'm not sure Wooden/Brinson/Stackhouse can hold up in the run game. But I also trust Hafley to figure it out
I've been vocal about my concerns about the DT position (specifically the one tech) but I'll say this. I think the Packers may have something in Stackhouse and Brinson. They've played well in the preseason games vs some actual NFL starters and backups and you can see that these two know how to play the run and it shows they've played together a lot at Georgia. Usually it takes time to grow into this position but I can already say that both are already ahead of rookie Slaton. Will it be enough to stop the run for a full 17 games? That's another question but these 2 are very promising.


Thats the thing, I'm not sure they played well in the preseason. They both seemed to get washed out a decent amount when I watched them. Just for reference too here were their PFF grades in the 3 preseason games, none of them were good

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Stackhouse- 48.7
Brinson- 51.6

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Stackhouse- 59.8
Brinson- 42

SEA
Stackhouse- 39.0
Brinson- 29.2
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Post#1513 » by midranger » Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:16 pm

Forcing the other team to pass comes down to stopping run on early downs and scoring a **** ton of points offensively so they have to play from behind.

They can probably scheme up the former, the later worries me a bit.
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Post#1514 » by BUCKnation » Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:55 pm

MLF making sure the offense gets off to a hot start will be extra important this year
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Post#1515 » by JCP11 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:56 pm

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I'm less worried about CB than I am DT. I'm not sure Wooden/Brinson/Stackhouse can hold up in the run game. But I also trust Hafley to figure it out
I've been vocal about my concerns about the DT position (specifically the one tech) but I'll say this. I think the Packers may have something in Stackhouse and Brinson. They've played well in the preseason games vs some actual NFL starters and backups and you can see that these two know how to play the run and it shows they've played together a lot at Georgia. Usually it takes time to grow into this position but I can already say that both are already ahead of rookie Slaton. Will it be enough to stop the run for a full 17 games? That's another question but these 2 are very promising.


Thats the thing, I'm not sure they played well in the preseason. They both seemed to get washed out a decent amount when I watched them. Just for reference too here were their PFF grades in the 3 preseason games, none of them were good

NYJ
Stackhouse- 48.7
Brinson- 51.6

IND
Stackhouse- 59.8
Brinson- 42

SEA
Stackhouse- 39.0
Brinson- 29.2

I've watched the Jets and the Indy game, there's good tape in there. They're not consistent yet but they have the foundation of something good. Both didn't offer much vs pass but it's not what we're looking for this year. Do you know what their run defense grade was?
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Post#1516 » by MVP2110 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:49 pm

JCP11 wrote:
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JCP11 wrote: I've been vocal about my concerns about the DT position (specifically the one tech) but I'll say this. I think the Packers may have something in Stackhouse and Brinson. They've played well in the preseason games vs some actual NFL starters and backups and you can see that these two know how to play the run and it shows they've played together a lot at Georgia. Usually it takes time to grow into this position but I can already say that both are already ahead of rookie Slaton. Will it be enough to stop the run for a full 17 games? That's another question but these 2 are very promising.


Thats the thing, I'm not sure they played well in the preseason. They both seemed to get washed out a decent amount when I watched them. Just for reference too here were their PFF grades in the 3 preseason games, none of them were good

NYJ
Stackhouse- 48.7
Brinson- 51.6

IND
Stackhouse- 59.8
Brinson- 42

SEA
Stackhouse- 39.0
Brinson- 29.2

I've watched the Jets and the Indy game, there's good tape in there. They're not consistent yet but they have the foundation of something good. Both didn't offer much vs pass but it's not what we're looking for this year. Do you know what their run defense grade was?


NYJ
Stackhouse- 51.1
Brinson- 52

SEA
Stackhouse- 58.6
Brinson- 42.9

IND
Stackhouse- 36.7
Brinson- 27.9
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Post#1517 » by JCP11 » Mon Sep 1, 2025 2:20 am

MVP2110 wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
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Thats the thing, I'm not sure they played well in the preseason. They both seemed to get washed out a decent amount when I watched them. Just for reference too here were their PFF grades in the 3 preseason games, none of them were good

NYJ
Stackhouse- 48.7
Brinson- 51.6

IND
Stackhouse- 59.8
Brinson- 42

SEA
Stackhouse- 39.0
Brinson- 29.2

I've watched the Jets and the Indy game, there's good tape in there. They're not consistent yet but they have the foundation of something good. Both didn't offer much vs pass but it's not what we're looking for this year. Do you know what their run defense grade was?


NYJ
Stackhouse- 51.1
Brinson- 52

SEA
Stackhouse- 58.6
Brinson- 42.9

IND
Stackhouse- 36.7
Brinson- 27.9

Thx bro. Playing the run as a rookie DT/NT in this league is tough. It's a grown man's job. Learning the techniques and the tricks of the trade take time. We'll see how they progress during the season. A vet could help a lot too.
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Post#1518 » by humanrefutation » Mon Sep 1, 2025 5:02 am

As good as Edge was as a rookie, he's going to have to step up even more this year. The interior has taken a hit with Slaton and Kenny gone. They helped swallow up blockers. Yeah, you can move Parsons and LVN inside, but you don't want to negate Micah's pass rush ability by forcing him to eat blockers in the run game. He's strong and fast, but he's not a big dude.

More is going to fall on Edge (and the safeties) to help in the run game.
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