ATL Offseason - Boyle to the Lions

[sdn40]

If it's about the money this move makes even less sense.

He was due 1 yr/17 mil. Might as well play that out and sign a huge deal next year. He now has 2 yrs with 23 mil guaranteed. He could've got that 17 mil and signed for more guaranteed money in 2022.....unless he feels he is on such a quick decline that won't happen.

I mean at least he went to a team I can still cheer for, but I thought he was better off joining Cleveland.

It's obvious priority one was getting out of a very toxic situation in Houston. From there it wasn't about the money but it was all about the money. No shame in that. Everything else was just fans and media making sh*t up. Arizona has $18m to spend and is 27th in attendance

[rilamann]

To quote Lil Jon...WHAT????

[rilamann]

I didn't think Watt would sign with the Packers, there were teams that could have paid him more and have a better chance to win the SB next season, but the Cardinals?

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[sdn40]

I didn't think Watt would sign with the Packers, there were teams that could have paid him more and have a better chance to win the SB next season, but the Cardinals?

Could and would are two different things.

[Profound23]

Wondering if AZ loses Reddick now.

If so this signing goes from bad to awful.

[skones]

The Cardinals are the Texans of 3 years ago except the Cardinals don't have as good of a QB as the Texans do.

I think you're underrating Murray a bit.

345/505 68.3% 4165 yards 26 TDs 9 Ints
375/558 67.2% 3971 yards 26 TDs 12 Ints

99 rushes 551 yards 5.6 YPC 5 TDs
133 rushes 819 yards 6.2 YPC 12 TDs

He's much better than people think.

[BUCKnation]

shows how far off the 'insiders' were considering the cards weren't even rumored. good on him keeping it close to the vest

[trwi7]

The Cardinals are the Texans of 3 years ago except the Cardinals don't have as good of a QB as the Texans do.

I think you're underrating Murray a bit.

345/505 68.3% 4165 yards 26 TDs 9 Ints
375/558 67.2% 3971 yards 26 TDs 12 Ints

99 rushes 551 yards 5.6 YPC 5 TDs
133 rushes 819 yards 6.2 YPC 12 TDs

He's much better than people think.

Okay but he's objectively a worse QB than Watson, which was my point. That the Cardinals are basically the Texans of a few years ago with a worse QB.

[jakecronus8]

People are slightly underrating the Cardinals here. 8-8 last year but that becomes irrelevant as soon as the season is over. They have an ascending star QB and if Watt can stay healthy that defense has a chance to be lethal. I don’t know what cap gymnastics they have to do but I just read they feel they have a good chance of keeping both Riddick and Peterson. We’ll see. If that’s indeed the case they’re on the short list of NFC contenders.

I do enjoy all the backtracking happening on Twitter right now from Packers nation. Very quickly went from “do whatever it takes to bring JJ home” to “LOL overrated/overpayed”

[Profound23]

People are slightly underrating the Cardinals here. 8-8 last year but that becomes irrelevant as soon as the season is over. They have an ascending star QB and if Watt can stay healthy that defense has a chance to be lethal. I don’t know what cap gymnastics they have to do but I just read they feel they have a good chance of keeping both Riddick and Peterson. We’ll see. If that’s indeed the case they’re on the short list of NFC contenders.

I do enjoy all the backtracking happening on Twitter right now from Packers nation. Very quickly went from “do whatever it takes to bring JJ home” to “LOL overrated/overpayed”

If you look back I stated if the Packers cut Preston to sign JJ I am not sure we even get better. If we could afford to have them both, then great.

I feel the same way for AZ. If they figure out a way to keep Reddick and Peterson after signing JJ, that defense is legit. If they basically just traded Reddick/Peterson for JJ, they are probably worse.

Anything can happen in the NFL.....but he just joined (if not for the Niners injuries) the worst team in the toughest division. If Murray doesn't make a huge jump this year, he will be just as disappointed in his team's performance as he was in Houston. I don't think that happens if he goes to Buffalo, Cleveland, GB, Indy, TB.

Did those teams offer as much money? Probably not....but if it was about the money just stay in Houston for 1 yr/17 mil and get a monster deal in 2022.

[jimmybones]

Easy for me to say, but no way in hell I’d go to the Arizona **** cardinals vs giving myself a chance to win a super bowl. He’s already rich, his family is rich, he’ll likely be able to keep making money as a coach or broadcaster if he wants - I’d go for the ring at quite a bit less money over the next two years.

[th87]

Good in that the division will beat up on each other, giving the Packers the inside track on a bye. But then again, our schedule...

[WRau1]

So clearly it wasn't about winning in Watt's decision.

[MoMM]

So clearly it wasn't about winning in Watt's decision.

Or maybe he just doesn't want to take the easy route as the NBA players do.

[WRau1]

So clearly it wasn't about winning in Watt's decision.

Or maybe he just doesn't want to take the easy route as the NBA players do.

Then stay a Texan?

[midranger]

So clearly it wasn't about winning in Watt's decision.

Or maybe he just doesn't want to take the easy route as the NBA players do.

Then stay a Texan?

A few thoughts on all this.

1. The Texans have become one of the worst franchises in pro sports. Total donk show. He’s dedicated the entire prime of his career to them. He should move on, and I’m glad they let him. This is the Giannis parallel if in 3 years we’re winning 25 games having just traded Middleton for Diamond Stone and Jrue is demanding a trade. You gotta let him go.

2. He got paid. Good for him. He is a charitable person. This allows him more ability to do good. I’m sure this is the most any team with a chance offered him.

3. The Cardinals are not a bad team, and the defense can be really good if he’s healthy. The Seahawks will fall apart. SF needs a QB (probably get Watson). If Murray can take a step forward and become a second tier QB, they’re right there in the mix.

4. JJ is active on social media. I’m sure he witnessed Durant get dragged for joining a ready made dynasty to get his rings. Did this enter into decision making? Probably not, but who knows.

Tl;dr: Got of of a terrible spot for most money in a pretty decent spot. Good for him.

[WRau1]

Or maybe he just doesn't want to take the easy route as the NBA players do.

Then stay a Texan?

A few thoughts on all this.

1. The Texans have become one of the worst franchises in pro sports. Total donk show. He’s dedicated the entire prime of his career to them. He should move on, and I’m glad they let him. This is the Giannis parallel if in 3 years we’re winning 25 games having just traded Middleton for Diamond Stone and Jrue is demanding a trade. You gotta let him go.

2. He got paid. Good for him. He is a charitable person. This allows him more ability to do good. I’m sure this is the most any team with a chance offered him.

3. The Cardinals are not a bad team, and the defense can be really good if he’s healthy. The Seahawks will fall apart. SF needs a QB (probably get Watson). If Murray can take a step forward and become a second tier QB, they’re right there in the mix.

4. JJ is active on social media. I’m sure he witnessed Durant get dragged for joining a ready made dynasty to get his rings. Did this enter into decision making? Probably not, but who knows.

Tl;dr: Got of of a terrible spot for most money in a pretty decent spot. Good for him.

I don't really care what Watt does but leaving the Texans to go a team that didn't even make the Playoffs is almost completely about money. Again, I don't care. Good for him and his family, I'd most likely do the same.

[midranger]

I mean, I think he was slated to make more for the Texans so it wasn’t completely about money.

I’d pay to leave that dumpster fire too.

[M-C-G]

It was such a curious move. Guessing the market was softer than expected with the cap going down and Cardinals came strong by comparison

Bummer. My dream of having him here and drafting a defensive lineman to just have a nasty front seven seems to be slipping


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[Ron Swanson]

Don't see what's so confusing about his decision. Cardinals aren't the NFC favorites but they're a young, up and coming team with some nice pieces. They'll be in the playoff mix, JJ gets his money, and also gets to stay in a warmer climate/doesn't have to move far. I think he just wanted out of what was clearly the worst run organization in the league.