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Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Amari, Hill released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:17 pm
by ReasonablySober
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Amari, Hill released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:18 pm
by Matches Malone
Samori Toure SZN
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Amari, Hill released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:24 pm
by BigDee
Not really surprising with his drop in playing time and lack of impact on offense.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Amari, Hill released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:36 pm
by WeekapaugGroove
About 8 weeks too late on cutting Watkins but I'll take it.
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Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:55 pm
by Treebeard
Doubs rehab complete and Toure progress = Watkins cut?
Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pre Draft
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:09 pm
by CWoodfan
Ron Swanson wrote:Yuck. Watkins is already kinda washed and can't stay healthy. For dirt cheap, sure, but this would have vibes of bringing in Anthony Hargrove in 2012 when we had zero good edge rushers outside of Clay. Incredibly underwhelming.
The part after "Yuck," was perhaps unnecessary but also incredibly accurate with regard to the Watkins' as of the day he was signed last April.
Washed, not healthy, and underwhelming are about the most positive things to say about Sammy's time in Green Bay, oh and pretty cheap I guess.
That the Watkins signing was an unserious attempt to make up for the losses of Davante and MVS is not hindsight, it was obvious the day it happened.
Only Brian Gutekunst and the sunshine and rainbows crowd actually thought Sammy had any "juice" left in him.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/25/brian-gutekunst-sammy-watkins-has-some-juice-left-in-him/
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:28 pm
by humanrefutation
Watkins was relatively useless even in the rare instances he was on the field.
I'd be surprised if he lands elsewhere at this point. It feels like this is a wrap on his underwhelming career.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:58 pm
by Mags FTW
Frustrating considering JuJu was signed by KC on a modest 1-year deal.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:44 am
by Matches Malone
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:54 am
by Wisky4life
In a wierd way, I am ok if Lazard walks after the season.
2023
1.) Watson
2.) Doubs
3.) Cobb
4.) Toure
5.) Jordan Addison (1st)
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Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:11 am
by DrWood
Wisky4life wrote:In a wierd way, I am ok if Lazard walks after the season.
2023
1.) Watson
2.) Doubs
3.) Cobb
4.) Toure
5.) Jordan Addison (1st)
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I'd be surprised if they re-sign Cobb.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:40 am
by MoMM
DrWood wrote:Wisky4life wrote:In a wierd way, I am ok if Lazard walks after the season.
2023
1.) Watson
2.) Doubs
3.) Cobb
4.) Toure
5.) Jordan Addison (1st)
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I'd be surprised if they re-sign Cobb.
If Aaron stays with us, I'd say it's a lock that Cobb plays for us next season, it's not like he is super expensive and he can help our young WR core to succeed too. To be fair, he has produced this season somehow, he is consistent and Aaron trusts him. Don't forget about the secret signs.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:26 pm
by MickeyDavis
I'd be fine with Cobb coming back cheap. Lazard can go.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:42 pm
by coolhandluke121
If Rodgers is back, may as well bring Cobb back too. Part of the value of Rodgers and certain receivers is a "whole is more than the sum of the parts" thing. They made a big mistake in retaining Rodgers and not accurately assessing how much of his value was tied to Adams.
Would rather go with Love + Lazard/Watson/Doubs/Toure than Rodgers + Cobb/Watson/Doubs/Toure though. I guess if Rodgers's trade value is way down, there might not be much point to trading him, but I hope they can at least get some draft capital for him. That's another potential silver lining if they play well down the stretch - rehabilitating his trade value would be a big win.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:52 pm
by Treebeard
MickeyDavis wrote:I'd be fine with Cobb coming back cheap. Lazard can go.
I'd rather keep Lazard and let Cobb go if it was down to one or the other. But if Aaron is in GB next fall, then Cobb will be too.
It won't surprise me if Big Dawg is back too, if Aaron is here. Tonyan's likely to be gone, and Degura is still on his rookie deal, correct?, so he's likely retained.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:05 pm
by Ron Swanson
Lazard's only 27 and he's turned himself into a really solid possession guy and one of the best blocking WR's in football. Unless he gets really expensive, I'd make him more of a priority than I did/would of with a guy like MVS. Cobb's been a solid 3rd down dude who's good for 1-2 important catches a game, but that's pretty much the extent of his usefulness at this point. He'll be 33 years old and we really need to move on and find that next slot guy who has some more burst and play-making ability.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:33 pm
by Matches Malone
Best zone cornerback
Jaire Alexander, Green Bay Packers
We know Alexander has the traits to play aggressive and sticky man coverage, but I also see him as one of the top zone corners in the NFL due to his backfield vision and ball skills. In Green Bay's single-high and split-safety zone schemes, Alexander will disrupt throwing lanes, overlap second-level throws and match with vertical routes down the field. He has four interceptions and 12 pass breakups, and per NFL Next Gen Stats, opponents have minus-10.6 expected points added when targeting him in zone looks.
Runner-up: Charvarius Ward, San Francisco 49ers
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:49 pm
by Ron Swanson
The fact that we still can't manage to craft anything beyond a mediocre-to-bad defense around a guy who at times can completely shut-down one side of the field in the passing game, is probably the most damning evidence against Joe Barry.
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:55 pm
by Matches Malone
Re: Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Watkins Released
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:07 pm
by Treebeard
He sure passes the eyetest too.
The short arms thing was a knock against Bulaga, IIRC. Injuries short circuited his career too soon, rather than basic ability