2021 Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Sternberger Released

[ReasonablySober]

People should also remember all that draft failure when they're screaming about how we need to be drafting defenders instead of WRs and gadget guys, as if investing draft high capital ensures success.

Now that's awesome logic. Sorry fans, even though 89% of Super Bowl participants have a Top 10 Scoring defense, we suck at drafting defensive guys so you'll just have to get used to us getting smoked every year.

I didn't say we should get used to anything. I was simply pointing out we've been drafting defense high for a decade and it didn't solve ****.

[ReginaldDwight]

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Shoulda just did it weeks ago, but glad they finally came to their senses.

[Daver]

Is anyone on this board not at all upset that while most teams have at least ran some O plays with their starting O unit the packers have chosen to damn near rest their entire O unit through all of preseason.
Even KC gave mahomes 1 series yesterday to get his timing down.
I can already hear the excuse if they lose we were not in rhythm not in sync.I dont get why MLF thinks you can just start the regular season without having at least 1 or 2 series with your O lineup during the preseason

[MickeyDavis]

Is anyone on this board not at all upset that while most teams have at least ran some O plays with their starting O unit the packers have chosen to damn near rest their entire O unit through all of preseason.
Even KC gave mahomes 1 series yesterday to get his timing down.
I can already hear the excuse if they lose we were not in rhythm not in sync.I dont get why MLF thinks you can just start the regular season without having at least 1 or 2 series with your O lineup during the preseason

Last year there were no preseason games and Rodgers was MVP and our offense led the league in scoring. So no, I'm not upset. I'm not saying Rodgers will repeat as MVP or we'll lead the league in scoring. But if those don't happen it won't be because of preseason reps.

[CWoodfan]

Lol at the notion the pack would spend a premium pick on a ILB. They simply do not value the position and they aren't alone or nessesarily wrong. I think they are pretty comfortable with Barnes as the main guy.. who by the way graded out much higher than 1st round ILB Queen last season.

My personal take is it's a lot like RB where the truly special guys matter and you don't want to suck at the position but with most guys like RBs the line in front of them matters more. I do believe it's the least important position on a defense.
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Your point about the Packers not valuing the ILB position is irrefutable.

As for whether the Pack is not alone in devaluing the position, surely one of the other 31 teams virtually ignores the position just like Green Bay.

As for whether GB is not "necessarily wrong" in devaluing the ILB position, it is interesting that when the Pack's "brainstrust" has watched other franchises win Super Bowls over the past 10 seasons, I am assuming they tune in, they have witnessed teams with defenses featuring inside linebackers selected in the 1st round (Ravens-Ray Lewis 2012) (Patriots -Dont'a Hightower 2014, 2016, and 2018) or 2nd round (Seahawks - Bobby Wagner 2013) (Eagles - Mychal Kendricks 2017) or 1st & 2nd rounds (Bucs - Devin White [1] & Lavonte David [2]), yet that has obviously not persuaded the braintrust that using a round 1 or 2 pick on an ILBer can lead to Super Bowl wins.

Interesting.

Hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Pack's undeniable devaluing of the ILB position has hurt the team's defenses since 2011, but we do know that (i) it has not helped and (ii) at least 7 of the past 10 teams that have won Lombardis do NOT subscribe to the Pack's approach to the position.

[ReginaldDwight]

Is anyone on this board not at all upset that while most teams have at least ran some O plays with their starting O unit the packers have chosen to damn near rest their entire O unit through all of preseason.
Even KC gave mahomes 1 series yesterday to get his timing down.
I can already hear the excuse if they lose we were not in rhythm not in sync.I dont get why MLF thinks you can just start the regular season without having at least 1 or 2 series with your O lineup during the preseason

Last year there were no preseason games and Rodgers was MVP and our offense led the league in scoring. So no, I'm not upset. I'm not saying Rodgers will repeat as MVP or we'll lead the league in scoring. But if those don't happen it won't be because of preseason reps.

They got more work in the joint practice also, no reason to ever roll out your top guys in fake games.

[ReasonablySober]

Demovsky's 53 man prediction:

QUARTERBACKS (2): Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love

RUNNING BACKS (3): Aaron Jones, AJ Dillon, Kylin Hill

RECEIVERS (6): Davante Adams, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Allen Lazard, Randall Cobb, Amari Rodgers, Malik Taylor

TIGHT ENDS (4): Robert Tonyan, Marcedes Lewis, Josiah Deguara, Dominique Dafney

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (9): Elgton Jenkins, Billy Turner, Royce Newman, Lucas Patrick, Josh Myers, Jon Runyan, Ben Braden, Yosh Nijman, Dennis Kelly.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (5): Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Kingsley Keke, Tyler Lancaster, T.J. Slaton

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS (5): Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Rashan Gary, Jonathan Garvin, Chauncey Rivers.

CORNERBACKS (6): Jaire Alexander, Kevin King, Eric Stokes, Chandon Sullivan, Shemar Jean-Charles, Isaac Yiadom.

SAFETIES (5): Adrian Amos, Darnell Savage, Vernon Scott, Henry Black, Christian Uphoff.

SPECIALISTS (3): Mason Crosby (K), JK Scott (P) and a long-snapper to be named later.

[msiris]

Demovsky's 53 man prediction:

QUARTERBACKS (2): Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love

RUNNING BACKS (3): Aaron Jones, AJ Dillon, Kylin Hill

RECEIVERS (6): Davante Adams, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Allen Lazard, Randall Cobb, Amari Rodgers, Malik Taylor

TIGHT ENDS (4): Robert Tonyan, Marcedes Lewis, Josiah Deguara, Dominique Dafney

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (9): Elgton Jenkins, Billy Turner, Royce Newman, Lucas Patrick, Josh Myers, Jon Runyan, Ben Braden, Yosh Nijman, Dennis Kelly.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (5): Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Kingsley Keke, Tyler Lancaster, T.J. Slaton

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS (5): Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Rashan Gary, Jonathan Garvin, Chauncey Rivers.

CORNERBACKS (6): Jaire Alexander, Kevin King, Eric Stokes, Chandon Sullivan, Shemar Jean-Charles, Isaac Yiadom.

SAFETIES (5): Adrian Amos, Darnell Savage, Vernon Scott, Henry Black, Christian Uphoff.

SPECIALISTS (3): Mason Crosby (K), JK Scott (P) and a long-snapper to be named later.

Is there a reason the list does not include ILB> Lol

[ReasonablySober]

Demovsky's 53 man prediction:

QUARTERBACKS (2): Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love

RUNNING BACKS (3): Aaron Jones, AJ Dillon, Kylin Hill

RECEIVERS (6): Davante Adams, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Allen Lazard, Randall Cobb, Amari Rodgers, Malik Taylor

TIGHT ENDS (4): Robert Tonyan, Marcedes Lewis, Josiah Deguara, Dominique Dafney

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (9): Elgton Jenkins, Billy Turner, Royce Newman, Lucas Patrick, Josh Myers, Jon Runyan, Ben Braden, Yosh Nijman, Dennis Kelly.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (5): Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Kingsley Keke, Tyler Lancaster, T.J. Slaton

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS (5): Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith, Rashan Gary, Jonathan Garvin, Chauncey Rivers.

CORNERBACKS (6): Jaire Alexander, Kevin King, Eric Stokes, Chandon Sullivan, Shemar Jean-Charles, Isaac Yiadom.

SAFETIES (5): Adrian Amos, Darnell Savage, Vernon Scott, Henry Black, Christian Uphoff.

SPECIALISTS (3): Mason Crosby (K), JK Scott (P) and a long-snapper to be named later.

Is there a reason the list does not include ILB> Lol

Sorry, I missed it:

INSIDE LINEBACKERS (5): Krys Barnes, De'Vondre Campbell, Ty Summers, Oren Burks, Isaiah McDuffie.

[ReasonablySober]

Also, (as I copy and past paid content) spend money on subs, dammit. Writers gotta eat.

[MickeyDavis]

Doesn't Bakhtiari have to be on the initial 53 if he's going to play at all this season?

[humanrefutation]

Doesn't Bakhtiari have to be on the initial 53 if he's going to play at all this season?

They can put him on the PUP through week 6, I believe.

[ReasonablySober]

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[Daver]

Question how good would our front 4 be and our D as a hole if we had 1 stud ILB let alone 2 like TB has.How we have gone so long with 98% of fans and NFL experts telling week after week our ILBs are putrid yet gute sits on his ever widening ass n refuses to upgrade a obvious need os mindnumbing

[ReasonablySober]

Saying this as someone who hasn't done a deep dive on the game or read a ton of analysis, but I thought Devin White was the difference in the NFC championship game. Having a guy like that probably does make a huge impact on your defense. That said, he was the #5 overall pick. He better be that good.

[slappyg]

Begelton looked good. Will be a shame if we lose him but tough road for him to make the team with Cobb trade and Amari being a 3rd rounder. Plus, Malik looks improved. Hope we can keep him on practice squad for when Cobb gets hurt.

[M-C-G]

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Watching the game with my dad who is half blind and half deaf and he kept saying, 'who is that number 90 guy!?'...dude just kept showing up over and over again. Feel good about the DT position for the first time since....Santana Dotson and Gilbert Brown? Raji and I don't know?

[M-C-G]

So perusing Twitter, I came across something from PFF that effectively graded Royce Newman as one of the best preseason OL or something like that. It is entirely possible we are coming out of this draft with day 1, two starting interior OL, a starting CB (though I think that will be later in the season), a slot back, 3rd string RB (who looks fantastic), a starting DT (and a UDFA back up DT), a starting slot WR (again, not sure if that is day 1), and a couple of UDFA secondary guys that look like they are going to make the roster.

On top of that we get our H back drafted last year added to the mix.

So many fun additions to the team.

[HKPackFan]

Is anyone on this board not at all upset that while most teams have at least ran some O plays with their starting O unit the packers have chosen to damn near rest their entire O unit through all of preseason.
Even KC gave mahomes 1 series yesterday to get his timing down.
I can already hear the excuse if they lose we were not in rhythm not in sync.I dont get why MLF thinks you can just start the regular season without having at least 1 or 2 series with your O lineup during the preseason

I've seen September is the new pre-season in terms of teams looking kinda crappy and figuring their stuff out.

I know the games count, but I think the philosophy is peak in November/Dec and just get yourself figured out in Sept. I know HFA is of course important but I think the Packers just roll with some uneven play in Sept instead of risking anyone in pre-season.

[Daver]

Is anyone on this board not at all upset that while most teams have at least ran some O plays with their starting O unit the packers have chosen to damn near rest their entire O unit through all of preseason.
Even KC gave mahomes 1 series yesterday to get his timing down.
I can already hear the excuse if they lose we were not in rhythm not in sync.I dont get why MLF thinks you can just start the regular season without having at least 1 or 2 series with your O lineup during the preseason

I've seen September is the new pre-season in terms of teams looking kinda crappy and figuring their stuff out.

I know the games count, but I think the philosophy is peak in November/Dec and just get yourself figured out in Sept. I know HFA is of course important but I think the Packers just roll with some uneven play in Sept instead of risking anyone in pre-season.

Agree with some of that but the season is only 17 games you cant come out n suck for to long otherwise
you will be to far behind.This isnt like baseball or basketball where you can start slow lost 5 or 6 games in a row n still and have it not matter.
Losing a conference game in week 1 isnt great at all either puts you 2 games behind saints after 1 week