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2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably])

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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#181 » by CWoodfan » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:43 pm

In 2022, Gutey turned two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks into Quay Walker, Devonte Wyatt, and Christian Watson.

The Packers need an infusion of high-end talent on the roster.

I'm hoping that there is a no-brainer LT available when Gutey makes his 2024 selection.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#182 » by Profound23 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:57 pm

The best thing is we face three of the teams in front of us. If we lose the next 3 (Chargers, Lions, KC) then we need to at least consider literally tanking the rest of the way.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#183 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:09 pm

CWoodfan wrote:In 2022, Gutey turned two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks into Quay Walker, Devonte Wyatt, and Christian Watson.

The Packers need an infusion of high-end talent on the roster.

I'm hoping that there is a no-brainer LT available when Gutey makes his 2024 selection.
I'm still reserving hope it's not Gute making the pick.

But I agree that after QB, T is my favorite 1st round position, then WR and maybe TE it theres a stud. (I don't watch college football so have no opinion on individual players)

In fact I'll be super annoyed if they ANYTHING but OL, QB, pass catcher in round 1. I don't give a **** if some seemingly great defensive player is there I'm **** done picking D round 1.

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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#184 » by MVP2110 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:12 pm

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CWoodfan wrote:In 2022, Gutey turned two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks into Quay Walker, Devonte Wyatt, and Christian Watson.

The Packers need an infusion of high-end talent on the roster.

I'm hoping that there is a no-brainer LT available when Gutey makes his 2024 selection.
I'm still reserving hope it's not Gute making the pick.

But I agree that after QB, T is my favorite 1st round position, then WR and maybe TE it theres a stud. (I don't watch college football so have no opinion on individual players)

In fact I'll be super annoyed if they ANYTHING but OL, QB, pass catcher in round 1. I don't give a **** if some seemingly great defensive player is there I'm **** done picking D round 1.

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I completely agree with this, It's time to build the offense. I think we have some solid building blocks but I'd love to add a LT, use a day 2 or day 3 pick on a RB, add another pass catcher, etc. Every pick doesn't have to be offense but I'd like our 1st rounder to be offense and atleast 2 of our day 2 picks. I don't usually study for the draft until the offseason so I can't give specifics yet but that's the ideal strategy imo
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Post#185 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:23 pm

I would be pretty shocked if they go defense with their first pick. There just isn't anyone out there who warrants a pick in the top ten. DB is a need and Cooper DeJean fits nicely, but only in a pretty big trade down.

The strength of this class is at OT, QB, and WR. The WRs in particular are pretty insane in this class.
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Post#186 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:26 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I would be pretty shocked if they go defense with their first pick. There just isn't anyone out there who warrants a pick in the top ten. DB is a need and Cooper DeJean fits nicely, but only in a pretty big trade down.

The strength of this class is at OT, QB, and WR. The WRs in particular are pretty insane in this class.
I hope you're right but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if Gute reached for a run stuffing DT with a high RAS score or some bull like that.

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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#187 » by LittleRooster » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:31 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I would be pretty shocked if they go defense with their first pick. There just isn't anyone out there who warrants a pick in the top ten. DB is a need and Cooper DeJean fits nicely, but only in a pretty big trade down.

The strength of this class is at OT, QB, and WR. The WRs in particular are pretty insane in this class.

I’d be shocked, based on their track record, if they go offense


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Post#188 » by LUKE23 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:36 pm

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Post#189 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:37 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I would be pretty shocked if they go defense with their first pick. There just isn't anyone out there who warrants a pick in the top ten. DB is a need and Cooper DeJean fits nicely, but only in a pretty big trade down.

The strength of this class is at OT, QB, and WR. The WRs in particular are pretty insane in this class.
I hope you're right but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if Gute reached for a run stuffing DT with a high RAS score or some bull like that.

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That would be Michigan DT Kris Jenkins.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#190 » by MVP2110 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:39 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I would be pretty shocked if they go defense with their first pick. There just isn't anyone out there who warrants a pick in the top ten. DB is a need and Cooper DeJean fits nicely, but only in a pretty big trade down.

The strength of this class is at OT, QB, and WR. The WRs in particular are pretty insane in this class.
I hope you're right but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if Gute reached for a run stuffing DT with a high RAS score or some bull like that.

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Gute has never cared about stopping the run when it comes to draft picks. The only "run stopping" Dlineman he's ever drafted was TJ Slaton with a day 3 pick. Most of his line picks are pass rushers first
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#191 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:45 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I would be pretty shocked if they go defense with their first pick. There just isn't anyone out there who warrants a pick in the top ten. DB is a need and Cooper DeJean fits nicely, but only in a pretty big trade down.

The strength of this class is at OT, QB, and WR. The WRs in particular are pretty insane in this class.
I hope you're right but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if Gute reached for a run stuffing DT with a high RAS score or some bull like that.

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Gute has never cared about stopping the run when it comes to draft picks. The only "run stopping" Dlineman he's ever drafted was TJ Slaton with a day 3 pick. Most of his line picks are pass rushers first
I was just giving a general example of what would piss me off with that pick.

Gute did draft a ILB in round 1 so I would count that as an attempt to stop the run. Personally I wouldn't ever draft an ILB that high but I especially wouldn't take one who struggles to read plays and is basically just a great athlete.

But I haven't agreed with much that Gutes done for the past few years (I actually thought he did a good job in FA early in his GM career)

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Post#192 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:59 pm

Would you trade completely out of round one if it meant you could get the 1st rounders from the Giants and Raiders in 2025? Well folks I have the draft for you.

2 - #35 - Amarius Mims - OT
2 - #48 - Calen Bullock - S
2 - #57 - Kingsley Suamataia - OT
3 - #71 - Terrion Arnold - CB/S
3 - #84 - Andrew Mukuba - S
4 - #103 - Audric Estime - RB
4 - #107 - Tez Walker - WR
4 - #135 - Jordan Burch - DL/Edge
5 - #140 - Andrew Raym - C
6 - #185 - Jestin Jacobs - B
6 - #217 - Rasheen Ali - RB
6 - #219 - Sam Hartman - QB
7 - #228 - Fentrell Cypress II - DB
7 - #250 - Jacob Cowing - WR

Also received TE Daniel Bellinger and the aforementioned 1sts from the NYG and LVR. And a 4th and a 7th.

Gotta say, it would make people furious but if they were determined to go OL early, this result would be dope.
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Post#193 » by skones » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:18 pm

Has Bo Nix entered that chat for anyone here?
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#194 » by Treebeard » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:27 pm

CBS Sports estimate of the race for the bottom

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/race-for-the-no-1-pick-in-2024-nfl-draft-bears-sitting-pretty-but-dont-rule-out-giants/

If you scroll to the end, The Sportline comparison estimate is there and does NOT include the Pack, but also doesn't appear to include the apparent resurrection of the Broncos (they're on the list)
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Post#195 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:10 pm

skones wrote:Has Bo Nix entered that chat for anyone here?


I am saying this just because I happened to stumble across this yesterday just for fun.

Jordan Love is:
-One year older than Tanner Mordecai
-1.5 years older than Bo Nix and Mike Penix.

Not really to rule them out because of this, but could you imagine a world where last season Jordan Love had transferred to Oklahoma and is carving up defenses as a 23-24 year old 6th year guy?
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Post#196 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:31 pm

Treebeard wrote:CBS Sports estimate of the race for the bottom

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/race-for-the-no-1-pick-in-2024-nfl-draft-bears-sitting-pretty-but-dont-rule-out-giants/

If you scroll to the end, The Sportline comparison estimate is there and does NOT include the Pack, but also doesn't appear to include the apparent resurrection of the Broncos (they're on the list)


That's about how I see it playing out, with the Panthers (Bears) and Giants holding onto one and two. The Packers will have a shot at a top three pick, but they're gonna need some really bad luck in their games.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#197 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:59 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Treebeard wrote:CBS Sports estimate of the race for the bottom

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/race-for-the-no-1-pick-in-2024-nfl-draft-bears-sitting-pretty-but-dont-rule-out-giants/

If you scroll to the end, The Sportline comparison estimate is there and does NOT include the Pack, but also doesn't appear to include the apparent resurrection of the Broncos (they're on the list)


That's about how I see it playing out, with the Panthers (Bears) and Giants holding onto one and two. The Packers will have a shot at a top three pick, but they're gonna need some really bad luck in their games.



Plus they will beat the Bears just because they always do, which strengthens the Bears chances with their own pick. Pretty crazy trade in retrospect for sure. Moore, a top pick the following year. Also a second rounder which should be solid the year after plus 2 picks last year. That’s a nice haul for Young. Poles would have been fired if he took Young #1.
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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#198 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:20 pm

I'm still mad at the Panthers about that trade. Just pure idiocy to trade a future 1st when you have very little talent and you're trading up for a Smurf sized QB. Id be distraught if I was a Panthers fan.

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Re: 2024 NFL Draft - Two second round picks 

Post#200 » by BUCKnation » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:58 pm

It seems like we'll likely play ourselves out of top QB contention. These last weeks will be huge for Love, in terms of taking a QB. If Love and the offense look better, I'd take any one of Harrison (won't be there), Bowers or the top T.

Between Caleb, Maye, Daniels, Sanders, McCarthy (not sure on him, screams Mac Jones) and even Nix or Penix, there are options.

I think taking one in the top 3 rounds, Brohm style would be smart in general.

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