Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Keke Released

[MickeyDavis]

It's a determining factor for the Pack. If Rodgers is traded you don't bring back Adams, even if he wants to come back (which he wouldn't).

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[coolhandluke121]

Some of Adams's premium value is tied to the connection with Rodgers. He's great regardless, but I'm not convinced his next contract is going to be a good one for any team unless he's with Rodgers - and even then, it's fairly risky. I would be happy with Rodgers staying to keep chasing titles, but I'd also be totally fine saving that money to build the team around defense and (especially) the run game. I think their RB's and O-line are terrific when healthy, and I think they have a great front office and coaching staff, special teams notwithstanding.

[Profound23]

If we don't keep Davante then we better franchise and trade him for at least one 1st.

[Profound23]

Is Josh Myers out for the season?

At this point I just assume they all are. Tired of hearing "we are hopeful that he will be back soon."

[Treebeard]

Some of Adams's premium value is tied to the connection with Rodgers. He's great regardless, but I'm not convinced his next contract is going to be a good one for any team unless he's with Rodgers - and even then, it's fairly risky. I would be happy with Rodgers staying to keep chasing titles, but I'd also be totally fine saving that money to build the team around defense and (especially) the run game. I think their RB's and O-line are terrific when healthy, and I think they have a great front office and coaching staff, special teams notwithstanding.

I agree that Adams/Rogers are on another plane. Still, if Adams potentially winds up with a Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, Allen, or even Brady, Stafford, Prescott, teams will pony up big time for his services. He's not going to save wretched passing teams with third-tier QB's (or OLines)

[DigitalFool]

If we don't keep Davante then we better franchise and trade him for at least one 1st.

You can’t if Rodgers is still here next year and even if he’s gone I still think it’s difficult. The cap hold was 16 million for 2021 for a WR.

[WeekapaugGroove]

If we don't keep Davante then we better franchise and trade him for at least one 1st.

I think this would actually be hard/impossible with the Packers cap situation. With an extension you can get creative with the math and make year 1 a lower cap number, when you franchise a guy that full $20+ mil hits the cap. They would have to do some major major cutting to get below enough to franchise him.

Russ Ball is going to have his work cut out for him this spring. This is probably the worst cap shape the Packers have EVER been in.



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[Ron Swanson]

You're not tagging him then trading him for value. This ain't the NBA. Either Rodgers is taking less on his next deal to accommodate making Davante the highest paid WR in the league, or he's gone.

Again, hope everyone is gonna be rational and not bitch about us having to move on from a lot of good players this offseason, because this is what happens when you go "all-in" for a 2-3 year window.

[MoMM]

You're not tagging him then trading him for value. This ain't the NBA.

Honest question, why can't it happen? Something legal? I don't know much about NFL contracts, only NBA.

[M-C-G]

Again, hope everyone is gonna be rational and not bitch about us having to move on from a lot of good players this offseason, because this is what happens when you go "all-in" for a 2-3 year window.

I can guarantee you there will be massive amounts of irrational and bitching posts about how we could let this happen. But Chiefs! they will say. This team seems somewhat destined to win a Super Bowl and have all of our guys get massive contracts with other teams looking to get some championship experience to put them over the hump.

I am surprised that Rodgers says it will be a quick decision though, which makes me think he is 100% out or 100% in. No idea which, but it was interesting he talked about circling Lambeau after the last game to soak it all in before heading into the tunnel.

[Profound23]

Last year there was speculation that we offer Adams a non-exclusive rights franchise tag.

This gives other teams the opportunity to sign Adams and if we decline, we receive two firsts from that team. Doesn't hurt our books unless Adams actually signs the 1 yr franchise tag...which I doubt he does. It would prevent us from signing other FAs until Adams actually signs elsewhere but I don't see us doing there anyways.

[M-C-G]

Last year there was speculation that we offer Adams a non-exclusive rights franchise tag.

This gives other teams the opportunity to sign Adams and if we decline, we receive two firsts from that team. Doesn't hurt our books unless Adams actually signs the 1 yr franchise tag...which I doubt he does. It would prevent us from signing other FAs until Adams actually signs elsewhere but I don't see us doing there anyways.

I don't know why but for some reason I thought they got rid of that. If that is on the table, great option. But I still think if Rodgers is not going to be here, signing Adams to an extension as a safety blanket for Love could sure help his development.

[PintSizedBox10]

I'm also under the assumption Rodgers is gone after this year. And trotting Love out there with the current group sans Adams would be less than ideal.

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[MickeyDavis]

Agreed, next year will be tough for the cap. We can save $28 million off the cap by cutting both Smith's. We save almost $7 million cutting Cobb. But that's about it without restructuring. We'd save $19.3 million trading/cutting Rodgers. He won't be cut obviously.

Fast forward to AFTER next season and we can save $20 million by cutting Bakhtiari and Jones. We could save another $11 million cutting Kenny but I don't see that happening.

You can go year by year here

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers/

[Profound23]

Agreed, next year will be tough for the cap. We can save $28 million off the cap by cutting both Smith's. We save almost $7 million cutting Cobb. But that's about it without restructuring. We'd save $19.3 million trading/cutting Rodgers. He won't be cut obviously.

Fast forward to AFTER next season and we can save $20 million by cutting Bakhtiari and Jones. We could save another $11 million cutting Kenny but I don't see that happening.

You can go year by year here

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers/

That Bakhtiari contract is going to look so bad. Can't believe we didn't trade him when we had a chance.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Last year there was speculation that we offer Adams a non-exclusive rights franchise tag.

This gives other teams the opportunity to sign Adams and if we decline, we receive two firsts from that team. Doesn't hurt our books unless Adams actually signs the 1 yr franchise tag...which I doubt he does. It would prevent us from signing other FAs until Adams actually signs elsewhere but I don't see us doing there anyways.

I don't know why but for some reason I thought they got rid of that. If that is on the table, great option. But I still think if Rodgers is not going to be here, signing Adams to an extension as a safety blanket for Love could sure help his development.

I'm pretty sure for any of the tags you have to clear the space to use the tag, regardless if the player actually signs it.

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[MickeyDavis]

Yes you need to have space when you tag a player. Once the player signs it he can be traded. Jags tagged and traded Ngakoue. Texans did the same with Clowney. Dee Ford. Jarvis Landry.

It happens but it would be tough to make it work.

[RRyder823]

Agreed, next year will be tough for the cap. We can save $28 million off the cap by cutting both Smith's. We save almost $7 million cutting Cobb. But that's about it without restructuring. We'd save $19.3 million trading/cutting Rodgers. He won't be cut obviously.

Fast forward to AFTER next season and we can save $20 million by cutting Bakhtiari and Jones. We could save another $11 million cutting Kenny but I don't see that happening.

You can go year by year here

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers/

That Bakhtiari contract is going to look so bad. Can't believe we didn't trade him when we had a chance.

When exactly was "the chance to trade Bahk"?

Was it when he was a top 2 LT and about to be a FA that GB desperately wanted/needed to retain?

Or was it the week after he signed his deal before he got hurt?

If there's anything to be upset about with Bahks deal it's that they still paid him top dollar despite locking him up early. (well that and the bad luck of the injury)

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[Profound23]

Agreed, next year will be tough for the cap. We can save $28 million off the cap by cutting both Smith's. We save almost $7 million cutting Cobb. But that's about it without restructuring. We'd save $19.3 million trading/cutting Rodgers. He won't be cut obviously.

Fast forward to AFTER next season and we can save $20 million by cutting Bakhtiari and Jones. We could save another $11 million cutting Kenny but I don't see that happening.

You can go year by year here

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/green-bay-packers/

That Bakhtiari contract is going to look so bad. Can't believe we didn't trade him when we had a chance.

When exactly was "the chance to trade Bahk"?

Was it when he was a top 2 LT and about to be a FA that GB desperately wanted/needed to retain?

Or was it the week after he signed his deal before he got hurt?

If there's anything to be upset about with Bahks deal it's that they still paid him top dollar despite locking him up early. (well that and the bad luck of the injury)

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Before signing him to that deal. Myself (and many others) saw our cap situation and what Miami got for Tunsil and said it was the best time to trade him. So this isn't hindsight or revisionist history.....it's seeing a good business opportunity that was wasted.

[skones]

He stay.

And willing it into existence.