Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Keke Released

[M-C-G]

I'd be worried about trading for Wilson just because he absolutely sucks at Lambeau

The one thing I don't think we could pull off is trading Rodgers and I am guessing have a giant cap hit on the trade AND bringing in a highly paid QB like Wilson.

Probably not impossible, but I think if we move on from Rodgers you almost need to go to a Love/Bridgewater type of low salary transition at the QB spot. Especially if we plan on tagging Adams.

[Profound23]

Yeah, I don't get the trade Rodgers for Russ talk. At that point, just keep Rodgers. The point of trading Rodgers is to get a guy like Love on a rookie deal and get us under this caphell.

[M-C-G]

Yeah, I don't get the trade Rodgers for Russ talk. At that point, just keep Rodgers. The point of trading Rodgers is to get a guy like Love on a rookie deal and get us under this caphell.

Yep, IF Rodgers is moving on, I think adding an affordable game manager ala Teddy Bridgewater, keeping Davante and taking your salary cap lumps as fast as possible has got to be the plan.

[ReasonablySober]

I think the Packers would have to be extremely confident in Love being Super Bowl caliber early on to pay Davante. I don't see it.

[coolhandluke121]

I think the Packers would have to be extremely confident in Love being Super Bowl caliber early on to pay Davante. I don't see it.

I've been saying all year that some of their premium value is tied to being together, and I wouldn't want one without the other unless they can get a lot more creative with the cap than I'm expecting.

Basically you either keep Rodgers and Adams and cut just about everyone you realistically can to save money, or let them both go and keep everyone else you can. I would have no problem building around the defense and run game.

[MickeyDavis]

That's a reason Denver is mentioned in possible trade talks. They have cap space to absorb Rodgers contract and sign Adams. Figure out the picks to be sent and probably Jeudy. They're in the AFC. Of course we can tag Adams if we want. But without Rodgers we don't.

[MickeyDavis]

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[coolhandluke121]

I dislike Rodgers as much as anyone, but I agree that it shouldn't outweigh performance. You can probably count the missed game against him in a way that you wouldn't normally do if it was an injury or if he had done everything he could to prevent getting Covid, but he's still ahead of the other QB's even without that game.

It's a moot point to me because Taylor should really be the MVP imo. Ridiculous QB bias if he can't make a serious run at it in a year like this, both in terms of a great season for an RB and rather mediocre years for the very best QB's.

[Ron Swanson]

Right up there with the "Terrell Owens shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame" morons. Dude should have his vote taken away immediately for publicly saying that, and of course, he's from Chicago. What an idiot.

[Mags FTW]

Someone should tell Hub to hold his vote until the end of the playoffs since he no longer feels it's a regular season award.

[ReginaldDwight]

Yeah Rodgers might be kind of a dbag, but hes probably the MVP this year, JT is a the clear 2nd place guy with TB12 third. Might see JT get it as a middle finger to Rodgers.

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Good for him. Arkush was totally out of line in his approach to voting for the award and for calling him a bad person. I hope this doesn't impact what other voters do, as Rodgers has absolutely earned the MVP this year.

[coolhandluke121]

I still think Rodgers is a douche and it goes way beyond just lying about being vaccinated, but this is clearly not the way to go about calling Rodgers out. I think the fines should have been much bigger for lying and going maskless, and would have supported some lost endorsements, but that's not MVP criteria. They didn't have an outbreak when he got covid, and he only missed one game. By all means, punish him for that one game, and if he had caused an outbreak that cost them more games, I would hold that against him too. I also agree that Rodgers is kind of a jerk, but I think calling him a bad person is going too far. A jerk is just annoying to hang out with but a bad person victimizes people IMO. If you really want to vote against him, voting for Taylor and citing Indy's success despite poor QB play is enough to justify not having to choose a QB every damn year.

[jakecronus8]

Both clowns (Rodgers and Harkush) are just annoying and kinda make me not care at all about MVP. Just want both idiots to shut up. For the love of god, aaron needs a PR person to instruct him to just stfu.

I suppose I do hope Rodgers wins mvp mainly because there’s a big part of me that believes he secretly doesn’t want it just so he can have an even bigger soap box to spew his tin foil hat BS. For the record, Harkush should absolutely have his vote taken and if there’s real justice he should also be blackballed. Dude is pathetic on a Paul Allen level or worse. Speaking of, since Minnesota has Allen and Chicago has Harbush who would be Green Bay’s closest equivalent? Nagler?

Anyways, after you trade Aaron in the offseason that makes tagging Davante without releasing half the team easier. Tag and trade him. You simply can’t let arguably the best skill position player in the league walk and only get a fourth round pick (a year later) in return. That would be abysmal asset management and I think Guter is smarter than that.

[ReasonablySober]

Both clowns (Rodgers and Harkush) are just annoying and kinda make me not care at all about MVP. Just want both idiots to shut up. For the love of god, aaron needs a PR person to instruct him to just stfu.

I suppose I do hope Rodgers wins mvp mainly because there’s a big part of me that believes he secretly doesn’t want it just so he can have an even bigger soap box to spew his tin foil hat BS. For the record, Harkush should absolutely have his vote taken and if there’s real justice he should also be blackballed. Dude is pathetic on a Paul Allen level or worse. Speaking of, since Minnesota has Allen and Chicago has Harbush who would be Green Bay’s closest equivalent? Nagler?

Anyways, after you trade Aaron in the offseason that makes tagging Davante without releasing half the team easier. Tag and trade him. You simply can’t let arguably the best skill position player in the league walk and only get a fourth round pick (a year later) in return. That would be abysmal asset management and I think Guter is smarter than that.

Looking into this more, there's essentially zero chance Adams can be Franchised with a Rodgers trade. In fact, it's actually easier to do so if Rodgers returns on an extension.

[humanrefutation]

Arkush went over the top by calling him a bad dude. Rodgers has displayed qualities that have lowered my esteem of him considerably, especially my consideration of his intellect. But to say he's a bad dude is too far, IMO.

That being said, I suspected that he'd never win an MVP again after his drama this year, especially with his lies about being vaccinated and his idiotic explanation for it afterwards. People like to act like MVP is all about what you do on the field, but of course voters are going to be influenced by what happens off of it. In Rodgers's case, he's benefiting from being the best player in an underwhelming field of candidates. If there was anyone who had a legit shot against him for the award, no way he'd win it, IMO.

[Treebeard]

I still suspect that Brady wins. Rogers and Taylor are more deserving, Cupp to; but Brady's been outstanding and he's always been a media darling. Rogers and Taylor lose a couple of points for playing in smaller media markets too. Brady's also managed to avoid saying and doing stupid things off the field, and his sympathetic comments about AB's carryings-on make him look like a humanitarian.

That being said, I can't stand Brady, so I hope he sets a record in the Carolina by tossing four pick-sixes.....

[coolhandluke121]

In Rodgers's case, he's benefiting from being the best player in an underwhelming field of candidates. If there was anyone who had a legit shot against him for the award, no way he'd win it, IMO.

I just don't understand why Taylor isn't being given a legit shot. He's been a huge difference-maker for the Colts. I get that there's usually not that much difference between RB's, but that can't be used as a sweeping generalization against Taylor because this year there is a big gap between him and everyone else. Meanwhile, guys like Brady have counting stats without the efficiency, and Rodgers has the efficiency without the usual counting stats for an MVP. Also, for me the eye test says Rodgers has been off target about twice as much as usual this year. Don't get me wrong, he's still very accurate, but he has missed a lot of throws he normally makes and I believe he's also getting more help than usual from the run game, the scheme, and yards after the catch - not to mention the defense being better than usual, which isn't saying much but still puts their record this year into perspective compared to other MVP/GOAT seasons from Rodgers.

Just checked NBC Sports: the Packers are 4th in yards after the catch despite being only 13th in receptions. They have just 11 dropped passes, which is tied for 3rd-lowest in the league. The offensive line has been pretty good, even with all the injuries. I just think Rodgers has been getting a lot more help than usual, just like last year but with better defense and a slightly worse o-line.