2023 College Football Discussion

Kerb Hohl · Post #361 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Aug 5, 2020 3:52 am

College basketball: Uncertainty in foreign/G-League stuff = almost everyone coming back.

College football: No reason to risk getting hurt in this likely mess of a season. Guys projected in rounds 1-2 will just sit it out. Maybe a handful of others.

Post #362 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Aug 5, 2020 1:44 pm

Holy hell this new schedule is easy:

Friday, Sept. 4: Indiana
Sept. 12: at Northwestern
Sept. 19: at Nebraska
Sept. 26: Minnesota
Oct. 3: at Maryland
Oct. 10: Purdue
Oct. 17: Bye
Oct. 24: Illinois
Oct. 31: at Michigan
Nov. 7: Bye
Nov. 14: at Iowa
Nov. 21: Rutgers

Kerb Hohl · Post #363 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Aug 5, 2020 2:54 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Holy hell this new schedule is easy:

Friday, Sept. 4: Indiana
Sept. 12: at Northwestern
Sept. 19: at Nebraska
Sept. 26: Minnesota
Oct. 3: at Maryland
Oct. 10: Purdue
Oct. 17: Bye
Oct. 24: Illinois
Oct. 31: at Michigan
Nov. 7: Bye
Nov. 14: at Iowa
Nov. 21: Rutgers

It went from, "****, Indiana/App State/Notre Dame/MN/@Michigan early is tougher than we think" to, "wow, this schedule is now fairly easy.

Post #364 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 7:07 pm

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Post #365 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:19 pm

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Post #366 » by **humanrefutation** » Sun Aug 9, 2020 10:31 pm

Looks like B1G Presidents want to postpone the season to the spring, and are urging the rest of the Power 5 to follow suit.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29629669/power-5-talking-no-fall-football

neiLz · Post #367 » by **neiLz** » Sun Aug 9, 2020 11:07 pm

Makes sense. Some big names have opted out already. Postponing the season might bring those guys back. But I doubt it unless there's a vaccine. Any player projected in the top 2/3 rounds should think hard about sitting out.

Post #368 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 am

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Kerb Hohl · Post #369 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:25 pm

neiLz wrote:Makes sense. Some big names have opted out already. Postponing the season might bring those guys back. But I doubt it unless there's a vaccine. Any player projected in the top 2/3 rounds should think hard about sitting out.

I don't think those guys will come back, regardless.

Post #370 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:32 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
neiLz wrote:Makes sense. Some big names have opted out already. Postponing the season might bring those guys back. But I doubt it unless there's a vaccine. Any player projected in the top 2/3 rounds should think hard about sitting out.

I don't think those guys will come back, regardless.

If anything more guys are gonna opt out.

Kerb Hohl · Post #371 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:34 pm

IMO:

1. Moving to spring is prudent/fine if it is feasible. I am a little concerned that it won't be logistically feasible, but if they can do it, fine.

2. I fully understand and expected this may happen. The colleges would have to admit these guys are semi-pro in some ways to have the tradeoff of liability and they probably aren't doing that. Even if the US had 1/4 of the cases as it does now (it's actually burning out a bit right now), doesn't matter - there's risk. It's up to the presidents and they don't want to deal with the fallout of a left tackle having a heart issue after this or the low probability, yet real chance of someone dying...unless they are just general population students. Then they'll have them all back to take classes from the dorms to collect that $.

3. I think the players are safer with their teams for the most part. Yes, the players have a "choice" to stay in, but on the whole, I would guess more players will get infected and have worse outcomes if they're sent home or are a regular student. It's pretty obvious they'll work out in random ass gyms to stay in shape and they'll party. Evidence is that like 7% of the NBA tested positive in a single week before entering the bubble. Young people will go party. And then a lot of these college players will have less access to quick testing/good care.

4. Leagues, players, etc. are going to have to take a look in the mirror on some of this.

Waiting 5-6 months to see what improves is prudent in many cases. A vaccine is possible in that timeframe. Great.

However, what if there is no vaccine? What if it (this is a likely outcome) is not THAT effective? Also, it takes months or years for even a good vaccine to actually sink into a population.

So these teams, if they have a low standard of what will stop them from playing, will already be setting precedent to consider not playing next season as well. And not to mention all of the fallout of the rest of the sports at colleges that football and basketball fund.

I know there are a handful of players that have mentioned complications after returning. It's not an ideal situation, but if one wants to stay as far away from this as possible, is being given the opportunity to opt out. For everyone else, the comparison is basically, "given the general lifestyle of people your age, you're either going to risk a low % chance of getting this from your football team or a slightly higher % chance of getting this as you go out in public and do stuff," because I think a pretty high % of guys away from the team are going to party, etc. as mentioned before.

Post #372 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:38 pm

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Post #373 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:45 pm

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MoneyInDaBank07 · Post #374 » by **MoneyInDaBank07** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:39 pm

Kinda surprised how quickly the conferences have done a 180. Why even discuss the move to conference-only seasons if this was the play all along?

MikeIsGood · Post #375 » by **MikeIsGood** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:13 pm

There's a lot of "this is just a rumor/false report" out there, which who knows, but I'm guessing that's a front by some of the coaches so that they can come across as the player's coach representing for their teams. And maybe they are, but it's all interesting.

MikeIsGood · Post #376 » by **MikeIsGood** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:14 pm

MoneyInDaBank07 wrote:Kinda surprised how quickly the conferences have done a 180. Why even discuss the move to conference-only seasons if this was the play all along?

I think they're doing the best that they can. This changes on a daily, hourly basis. Baseball's cases - the Cards, in particular - I'm sure isn't helping things. Neither is several of these universities moving to online-only (but hey, football is fine...?), or other universities (Connecticut) closing their athletics down.

Profound23 · Post #377 » by **Profound23** » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:58 pm

So we finish the season undefeated.....nice

trwi7 · Post #378 » by **trwi7** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:35 pm

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Kerb Hohl · Post #379 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:43 pm

Treatments may be better by spring but it's going to be a **** and a lot of players will leave/quit/etc.

The season will probably be like 6 games if they can pull it off and I don't understand what will be better otherwise where it can work in spring, even though I somewhat endorsed this idea a few posts ago.

Whether there are 50,000 daily confirmed cases in the US or 5,000 daily confirmed cases in the US in spring or currently, the risk is having the virus spread through the team - it's still gonna be there. And the main way to keep this at bay to the level that some think might be the threshold to play (5,000 cases? 10,000 daily?) would be localized lockdowns, which would likely involve shutting down a campus or football operations.

I don't see this working in spring with the precedent they've set.

Post #380 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:46 pm

I doubt the spring season happens.