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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#361 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:15 pm

The last month before the draft will feature a lot of misinformation and "leaks" as teams try to hide their true interests the best they can.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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Post#362 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:16 pm

Speaking of, has McGinn released the worst annual sports column yet?
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#363 » by trwi7 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:32 am

Scout 1: Not sure how the Packers can draft this guy to lead his team if he doesn't even have the confidence to ask a girl out that doesn't have saggy tits.

Scout 2: Sang karaoke one night but didn't have the confidence to go for the high notes. Knowing that, can you really trust him with the Super Bowl on the line?
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#364 » by Wisky4life » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:24 am

I got a PFF mock that would be our dream draft. Unrealistic but fun.

Trade Jordan Love, #28, #59, and #133 for DK Metcalf and #9

#9: Drake London WR
#22: Jameson Williams WR
#53: Kinsgley Enagbare Edge
#92: Kellen Diesch OT


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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#365 » by DrWood » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:45 am

I'd take this even though the players I really wanted didn't drop. I could have taken Burks at 28, but Lloyd was too good to pass up.
28.
Devin Lloyd
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43.
Devonte Wyatt
DT Georgia

53.
Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State

64.
Jalen Tolbert
WR South Alabama

74.
Kingsley Enagbare
EDGE South Carolina

78.
Kyler Gordon
CB Washington

92.
Daniel Faalele
OT Minnesota

99.
Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis

116.
Jelani Woods
TE Virginia

132.
Nick Cross
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140.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#366 » by LUKE23 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:20 pm

Don’t think Watson makes it to 53
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Post#367 » by ReddRum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:22 pm

Wisky4life wrote:I got a PFF mock that would be our dream draft. Unrealistic but fun.

Trade Jordan Love, #28, #59, and #133 for DK Metcalf and #9

#9: Drake London WR
#22: Jameson Williams WR
#53: Kinsgley Enagbare Edge
#92: Kellen Diesch OT


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As much as I would love that trade there is no way the Seahawks do that. I think it would take a 1st and a 2nd to get Metcalf and we certainly won't be getting #9 back. I think we will need to move up in the draft to land a top 5 WR.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#368 » by ReddRum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:22 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Don’t think Watson makes it to 53


I agree. I have seen some mocks with him going late in the 1st round...
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#369 » by MVP2110 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Read on Twitter
?t=klU3PqIu17UzKraxVJPtJw&s=19

Guys on this list that also meet their typical age threshold(I might have missed a couple)

George Pickens
Alec Pierce
Drake Jackson
Zach Tom
Logan Hall
Leo Chenal
Nick Cross
Sterling Weatherford
Daniel Bellinger
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#370 » by Treebeard » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:19 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=klU3PqIu17UzKraxVJPtJw&s=19

Guys on this list that also meet their typical age threshold(I might have missed a couple)

George Pickens
Alec Pierce
Drake Jackson
Zach Tom
Logan Hall
Leo Chenal
Nick Cross
Sterling Weatherford
Daniel Bellinger
Greg Dulcich


Interesting list. I wonder if in this win-now plan, if that age issue gets down-played. There's likely a higher priority on expected quick production.

Conversely, it also wouldn't surprise me to see the take a flyer on guys like Bernard Raimann. Austrian immigrant, older, late to football, but relative low mileage on the body. Velus Jones is another guy with good RAS, but older.
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Post#371 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:58 pm

ReddRum wrote:
Wisky4life wrote:I got a PFF mock that would be our dream draft. Unrealistic but fun.

Trade Jordan Love, #28, #59, and #133 for DK Metcalf and #9

#9: Drake London WR
#22: Jameson Williams WR
#53: Kinsgley Enagbare Edge
#92: Kellen Diesch OT


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As much as I would love that trade there is no way the Seahawks do that. I think it would take a 1st and a 2nd to get Metcalf and we certainly won't be getting #9 back. I think we will need to move up in the draft to land a top 5 WR.


Yeah, the site overvalues Love too much. I was able to trade Love to the Bengals for Chase AND PICKS. They threw in picks to give me Chase for Love.

That would be hilarious for a team that already has the next big QB.


Bakhtiari has negative value.....no team wants to trade for him which is probably true with that contract.
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Post#372 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:18 pm

Treebeard wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=klU3PqIu17UzKraxVJPtJw&s=19

Guys on this list that also meet their typical age threshold(I might have missed a couple)

George Pickens
Alec Pierce
Drake Jackson
Zach Tom
Logan Hall
Leo Chenal
Nick Cross
Sterling Weatherford
Daniel Bellinger
Greg Dulcich


Interesting list. I wonder if in this win-now plan, if that age issue gets down-played. There's likely a higher priority on expected quick production.

Conversely, it also wouldn't surprise me to see the take a flyer on guys like Bernard Raimann. Austrian immigrant, older, late to football, but relative low mileage on the body. Velus Jones is another guy with good RAS, but older.


Keep in mind with the extra covid year exception, this might go down as one of the oldest draft classes in NFL history
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Post#373 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:21 pm

Profound23 wrote:

Bakhtiari has negative value.....no team wants to trade for him which is probably true with that contract.


If he looks healthy this season, I would bet there is a large market for him. Nor should we trade him until he can up his value and reduce his cap hit.
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Post#374 » by DrWood » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:31 pm

Obviously we need a WR, and there is a big difference of opinion on which WRs will be available when we pick. So I found 8 lists for top WR in the draft. I calculated the median ranking (not counting when they weren't ranked (NR) by one or more of the evaluators). Below I post their overall ranking, their name, their median rank, and the range of rankings.

1a. Garrett Wilson 2 (1-4)
1b. Drake London 2 (1-6)*
3. Jameson Williams 2.5 (1-5)
4. Chris Olave 4 (2-7)*
5. Treylon Burks 4 (3-6)*
6. Jahan Dotson 6.5 (3-11)
7. George Pickens 7 (5-NR)*
8. Chris Watson 9 (2-NR)*
9. Skyy Moore 9 (6-13)
10. John Metchie 10 (8-NR)*
11. David Bell 11.5 (8-NR)
12. Alec Pierce 12 (3-NR)*
13. Jalen Tolbert 12 (9-NR)*
14. Justyn Ross 13 (10-NR)
15. Calvin Austin 14.5 (10-NR)*
16. Wan'dale Robinson 14 (8-NR)
17. Romeo Doubs 17 (16-NR)*
18. Khalil Shakir 18 (13-NR)
19. Erik Ezukanma 18 (16-NR)*
20. Dontario Drummond 18 (17-NR)
21. Vetus Jones 19 (18-NR)
22. Kyle Philips 21 (19-NR)

There's no telling how teams value these players, but you can be sure it varies from team to team. Someone you like will drop; someone will be picked much higher than you thought.
For me, any of the 4 top guys would be fine at 22.
At 28, it depends on whether we go with a WR at 22, but Burks and Watson would be options for me.
I'd consider most of the other guys on this list in rounds 2-4. London, Dotson and Moore seem rated too highly to me.
edit: I added * to guys that I'd like at the right pick.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#375 » by Treebeard » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:39 pm

We're assuming Biasaccia has some voice in discussions with LaFleur and probably with Gute on prospects for the STs.

Isn't it also reasonable to expect the same for Stenavich? He may have some different preferences on player characteristics from Hackett.

I understand this isn't likely, or desirable, to have every voice in the room carrying equal weight, but it is different inputs from the last couple of years.
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Post#376 » by DrWood » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:43 pm

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LUKE23 wrote:Don’t think Watson makes it to 53


I agree. I have seen some mocks with him going late in the 1st round...

I think you guys might be trolling me because of my statements that a guy wouldn't be available when we pick.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#377 » by Treebeard » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:35 pm

DrWood wrote:
ReddRum wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:Don’t think Watson makes it to 53


I agree. I have seen some mocks with him going late in the 1st round...

I think you guys might be trolling me because of my statements that a guy wouldn't be available when we pick.


I don't know about that. I get a kick out of looking at the various mocks, full well knowing they're being updated every few days to generate clicks. Still, with a class of decidedly "meh" QB's, there's no sure things, even at the top of the list. A fourth grader picking the order based on the prospects picture might be every bit as correct as Jeremiah, Kiper, or whichever pundit you choose. This draft is wide open from first pick to last, IMO.

*edit* I'd bet on a few more first round trades than normal too.
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Post#378 » by ReddRum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:51 pm

DrWood wrote:Obviously we need a WR, and there is a big difference of opinion on which WRs will be available when we pick. So I found 8 lists for top WR in the draft. I calculated the median ranking (not counting when they weren't ranked (NR) by one or more of the evaluators). Below I post their overall ranking, their name, their median rank, and the range of rankings.

1a. Garrett Wilson 2 (1-4)
1b. Drake London 2 (1-6)*
3. Jameson Williams 2.5 (1-5)
4. Chris Olave 4 (2-7)*
5. Treylon Burks 4 (3-6)*
6. Jahan Dotson 6.5 (3-11)
7. George Pickens 7 (5-NR)*
8. Chris Watson 9 (2-NR)*
9. Skyy Moore 9 (6-13)
10. John Metchie 10 (8-NR)*
11. David Bell 11.5 (8-NR)
12. Alec Pierce 12 (3-NR)*
13. Jalen Tolbert 12 (9-NR)*
14. Justyn Ross 13 (10-NR)
15. Calvin Austin 14.5 (10-NR)*
16. Wan'dale Robinson 14 (8-NR)
17. Romeo Doubs 17 (16-NR)*
18. Khalil Shakir 18 (13-NR)
19. Erik Ezukanma 18 (16-NR)*
20. Dontario Drummond 18 (17-NR)
21. Vetus Jones 19 (18-NR)
22. Kyle Philips 21 (19-NR)

There's no telling how teams value these players, but you can be sure it varies from team to team. Someone you like will drop; someone will be picked much higher than you thought.
For me, any of the 4 top guys would be fine at 22.
At 28, it depends on whether we go with a WR at 22, but Burks and Watson would be options for me.
I'd consider most of the other guys on this list in rounds 2-4. London, Dotson and Moore seem rated too highly to me.
edit: I added * to guys that I'd like at the right pick.


Nice list you put together Wood! The top 4 will all be off the board by our pick and Burks is way to raw for our wants. After that there seems to be a handful of guys in the same tier. So my guess is we go DEF pass rush / OT on the 1st pick and then snag BPA WR at #28. Then from there its anybody's guess what we do. If you want a top 4-5 WR you are going to have to move up a few picks to get your guy.
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Post#379 » by Daver » Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:42 am

ReddRum wrote:
DrWood wrote:Obviously we need a WR, and there is a big difference of opinion on which WRs will be available when we pick. So I found 8 lists for top WR in the draft. I calculated the median ranking (not counting when they weren't ranked (NR) by one or more of the evaluators). Below I post their overall ranking, their name, their median rank, and the range of rankings.

1a. Garrett Wilson 2 (1-4)
1b. Drake London 2 (1-6)*
3. Jameson Williams 2.5 (1-5)
4. Chris Olave 4 (2-7)*
5. Treylon Burks 4 (3-6)*
6. Jahan Dotson 6.5 (3-11)
7. George Pickens 7 (5-NR)*
8. Chris Watson 9 (2-NR)*
9. Skyy Moore 9 (6-13)
10. John Metchie 10 (8-NR)*
11. David Bell 11.5 (8-NR)
12. Alec Pierce 12 (3-NR)*
13. Jalen Tolbert 12 (9-NR)*
14. Justyn Ross 13 (10-NR)
15. Calvin Austin 14.5 (10-NR)*
16. Wan'dale Robinson 14 (8-NR)
17. Romeo Doubs 17 (16-NR)*
18. Khalil Shakir 18 (13-NR)
19. Erik Ezukanma 18 (16-NR)*
20. Dontario Drummond 18 (17-NR)
21. Vetus Jones 19 (18-NR)
22. Kyle Philips 21 (19-NR)

There's no telling how teams value these players, but you can be sure it varies from team to team. Someone you like will drop; someone will be picked much higher than you thought.
For me, any of the 4 top guys would be fine at 22.
At 28, it depends on whether we go with a WR at 22, but Burks and Watson would be options for me.
I'd consider most of the other guys on this list in rounds 2-4. London, Dotson and Moore seem rated too highly to me.
edit: I added * to guys that I'd like at the right pick.


Nice list you put together Wood! The top 4 will all be off the board by our pick and Burks is way to raw for our wants. After that there seems to be a handful of guys in the same tier. So my guess is we go DEF pass rush / OT on the 1st pick and then snag BPA WR at #28. Then from there its anybody's guess what we do. If you want a top 4-5 WR you are going to have to move up a few picks to get your guy.




JMO but you sure williams n olave will be gone by pick 22 not saying your wrong just seen more mock drafts having GB pick olave or williams at 22 then not.Personally to me its a no brainer if both williams n olave are there you grab olave seeing williams is missing half the year
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Post#380 » by DrWood » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:05 am

ReddRum wrote:
Nice list you put together Wood! The top 4 will all be off the board by our pick and Burks is way to raw for our wants. After that there seems to be a handful of guys in the same tier. So my guess is we go DEF pass rush / OT on the 1st pick and then snag BPA WR at #28. Then from there its anybody's guess what we do. If you want a top 4-5 WR you are going to have to move up a few picks to get your guy.

There's a 50-50 shot one (or two) of the top 4 will be available at #22.

I always think the value picks are in the 2nd and 3rd round, so I hope they trade down at least one of their FRP, UNLESS someone drops, and that could be one of the WR, DT, OT, or Devin Lloyd.

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