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Treebeard wrote:CBS Sports current top 100:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2025-nfl-draft-top-100-big-board-only-three-quarterbacks-make-cut-while-defensive-linemen-dominate-list/
ReasonablySober wrote:PFF Draft Guide is out. If you want to know anything on a particular player let me know. Player comps are a bit interesting.
Frank Nova wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:PFF Draft Guide is out. If you want to know anything on a particular player let me know. Player comps are a bit interesting.
What does PFF say about Luther Burden and Isaiah Bond?
ReasonablySober wrote:Frank Nova wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:PFF Draft Guide is out. If you want to know anything on a particular player let me know. Player comps are a bit interesting.
What does PFF say about Luther Burden and Isaiah Bond?
They're a LOT higher on Burden than I've been the last two years. If they're right, he'd be an easy target at 23. But I'd have to trust them more than my own lying eyes.
Profound23 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Frank Nova wrote:
What does PFF say about Luther Burden and Isaiah Bond?
They're a LOT higher on Burden than I've been the last two years. If they're right, he'd be an easy target at 23. But I'd have to trust them more than my own lying eyes.
What about the other top WRs in McMillan, Golden, Egbuka and Higgins
I am going to guess comparisons
McMillan-Drake London
Golden-DeVonta Smith
Egbuka-Diggs or Godwin
Higgins-McLaurin
ReasonablySober wrote:Profound23 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:
They're a LOT higher on Burden than I've been the last two years. If they're right, he'd be an easy target at 23. But I'd have to trust them more than my own lying eyes.
What about the other top WRs in McMillan, Golden, Egbuka and Higgins
I am going to guess comparisons
McMillan-Drake London
Golden-DeVonta Smith
Egbuka-Diggs or Godwin
Higgins-McLaurin
McMillan: AJ Green
Golden: Sefon Diggs
Egbuka: Amon-Ra St. Brown
Higgins: Tim Patrick
I found all of their player comps in the guide to be interesting but especially the WRs. They're almost too conservative (IMO) with most of their player comps throughout the draft, but they seem to be really on the WR class. And I think it mostly sucks.
ReasonablySober wrote:Frank Nova wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:PFF Draft Guide is out. If you want to know anything on a particular player let me know. Player comps are a bit interesting.
What does PFF say about Luther Burden and Isaiah Bond?
Burden:
"Burden is an ideal “five-tool,” multi-sport athlete for the receiver position in the NFL. The first-round talent is as well-rounded as they come, displaying the ability to succeed at any receiver spot in any offense."
Bond (Isaiah Bond):
"Bond's world-class speed will be coveted, likely in the top 50, but he needs to continue to grow as a receiver — not just a fast player — to remain on the field for more than vertical play calls"
They're a LOT higher on Burden than I've been the last two years. If they're right, he'd be an easy target at 23. But I'd have to trust them more than my own lying eyes.
23. Green Bay Packers: Grey Zabel, OL, North Dakota State
Zabel is the latest in a long line of gifted O-linemen who blossomed in the Missouri Valley Football Conference. Zabel shined in Senior Bowl practices and turned heads at the combine, where at 6-6 and 312 pounds, he vertical jumped an astounding 36 1/2 inches — the best of all the O-linemen. He has excellent position flexibility, having played left tackle, right tackle and guard. His arm length of just 32 inches is why some personnel people think he’s best suited as an interior lineman.
“He’s a talented, physical kid,” one Missouri Valley head coach said. “I don’t think he’s quite as good as (Bucs guard) Cody Mauch or (Bills OT) Spencer Brown, but I think he’s better than (Saints first-round OT) Trevor Penning. Gray is a really good athlete, but I think Mauch bent better and was more of a mauler.”
If there was any knock on his game, it was that he wasn’t great at handling stunts, but rival coaches couldn’t stop raving about Zabel.
“He is so good,” said an FCS defensive coordinator who has coached at the major college football level. “He’s extremely athletic and really good in pass stuff. He changes direction so well, is strong, poised and doesn’t get rattled. I think if you have him at center or guard, he’ll be pretty damn salty.”
Profound23 wrote:What do you guys think about the running backs in this draft? I think RB is pretty deep.
Damien Martinez and Skattebo look like great late round options. Tahj Brooks looks like Josh Jacobs light. I know we drafted Lloyd last year but I just don't trust him to stay healthy and he has issues with fumbling the ball.
ReasonablySober wrote:Bruce Feldman's mock in the Athletic is full of great into. Instead of quoting a bunch of lying NFL scouts like Bob McGinn, he uses his college coach connections and gets info from people with no reason to lie.23. Green Bay Packers: Grey Zabel, OL, North Dakota State
Zabel is the latest in a long line of gifted O-linemen who blossomed in the Missouri Valley Football Conference. Zabel shined in Senior Bowl practices and turned heads at the combine, where at 6-6 and 312 pounds, he vertical jumped an astounding 36 1/2 inches — the best of all the O-linemen. He has excellent position flexibility, having played left tackle, right tackle and guard. His arm length of just 32 inches is why some personnel people think he’s best suited as an interior lineman.
“He’s a talented, physical kid,” one Missouri Valley head coach said. “I don’t think he’s quite as good as (Bucs guard) Cody Mauch or (Bills OT) Spencer Brown, but I think he’s better than (Saints first-round OT) Trevor Penning. Gray is a really good athlete, but I think Mauch bent better and was more of a mauler.”
If there was any knock on his game, it was that he wasn’t great at handling stunts, but rival coaches couldn’t stop raving about Zabel.
“He is so good,” said an FCS defensive coordinator who has coached at the major college football level. “He’s extremely athletic and really good in pass stuff. He changes direction so well, is strong, poised and doesn’t get rattled. I think if you have him at center or guard, he’ll be pretty damn salty.”
