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Post#41 » by PackerBacker89 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:57 pm

DrugBust wrote:I'd say it was a testament to our depth that we were able to hang with a good team coming off a god damn bye. Are you kidding me? We're not getting blown out. We've had chances in every loss. That's due to the fact that our third stringers and practice squad members have shown to be capable NFL caliber players.

Thompson looked good today. Mike McCarthy didn't.


Some people sink to amazingly low depths to try and make TT look bad.
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Post#42 » by ClassicJack » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:58 pm

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Buck You wrote:Meanwhile in Seattle Lynch helps win them the game. Hm.


Without Lynch, they do not win that game. That trade got them at least 1 W. The guy was great today.


Ehh...he's no John Kuhn.
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Post#43 » by Ayt » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:01 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I am not trying to discount the injuries, but what we see today is what happens when you stock your team with a bunch of developmental players and draft picks. When your playmakers are injured or not making plays, you don't have enough left to win. We don't have enough.

Yes it killed to not have those LB's today, but areas of perpetual weakness like the Oline, punter, special teams, RB depth all contributed a lot to this loss.

And Rilamann brought up the point earlier that Rodgers may be just a very good QB but not an elite winner.

I will duck while you guys throw the tomatoes now.


No need to duck. This post just makes you look silly since it is indefensible (at least in regards to depth).
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Post#44 » by Atnomage » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:06 pm

DrugBust wrote:I'd say it was a testament to our depth that we were able to hang with a good team coming off a god damn bye. Are you kidding me? We're not getting blown out. We've had chances in every loss. That's due to the fact that our third stringers and practice squad members have shown to be capable NFL caliber players.

Thompson looked good today. Mike McCarthy didn't.


I agree with all the injuries the team has had and they are still in a position where they should have won, this team's problem is coaching. Give Bulaga some help, throw some short passes and mix up the offense so teams can't send the sink.
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Post#45 » by PackerBacker89 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:07 pm

I can't understand why they won't give Bulaga some help. He was dominated today. Sure as hell better get him some help for next week.
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Post#46 » by LUKE23 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:09 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I am not trying to discount the injuries, but what we see today is what happens when you stock your team with a bunch of developmental players and draft picks. When your playmakers are injured or not making plays, you don't have enough left to win. We don't have enough.

Yes it killed to not have those LB's today, but areas of perpetual weakness like the Oline, punter, special teams, RB depth all contributed a lot to this loss.

And Rilamann brought up the point earlier that Rodgers may be just a very good QB but not an elite winner.

I will duck while you guys throw the tomatoes now.


I don't know what people that think the above are watching, but DB already mentioned it. We're hanging in games with bench players. Don't you think the fact that we're losing all these close games has more to do with coaching than personnel? If it was personnel AND we had major injuries, we'd be getting waxed. If anything, the last few games have shown how well TT has drafted.

The problem IS NOT TT. It's MM and so far this year, Rodgers as well. I don't know how anyone can complain at all about the D this year. It's the offense and that is on MM.
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Post#47 » by rilamann » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:14 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:I am not trying to discount the injuries, but what we see today is what happens when you stock your team with a bunch of developmental players and draft picks. When your playmakers are injured or not making plays, you don't have enough left to win. We don't have enough.

Yes it killed to not have those LB's today, but areas of perpetual weakness like the Oline, punter, special teams, RB depth all contributed a lot to this loss.

And Rilamann brought up the point earlier that Rodgers may be just a very good QB but not an elite winner.

I will duck while you guys throw the tomatoes now.


I don't know what people that think the above are watching, but DB already mentioned it. We're hanging in games with bench players. Don't you think the fact that we're losing all these close games has more to do with coaching than personnel? If it was personnel AND we had major injuries, we'd be getting waxed. If anything, the last few games have shown how well TT has drafted.

The problem IS NOT TT. It's MM and so far this year, Rodgers as well. I don't know how anyone can complain at all about the D this year. It's the offense and that is on MM.


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With the way the defense has played even with the injuries we would be 6-0 right now if MM and the offense wasn't being coached and played like garbage.
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Post#48 » by PackerBacker89 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:16 pm

It's befuddling what has happened to the playcalling. Last year we looked as good as the Saints at times. Having Grant obviously helped but we still have the weapons to be one of the most dangerous offenses in the league.
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Post#49 » by rilamann » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:17 pm

I also forgot to mention that the defense is even more impressive when you consider our terrible special teams puts them behind the eight ball every other time.
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Post#50 » by Newz » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:17 pm

I would ask PP to name one team that could compete for the Super Bowl if it lost (injury wise):

1st string RB, 1st/2nd string TE, 1st string RT

3x of their top 3 defensive linemen, 2x 1st string MLB, 1x starting OLB, 1x 1st string CB, 2x 1st/2nd string safeties

I would ask that, but I already know the answer for myself and it is no team. I'd like to see this magical general manager who has compiled a team full of 53 guys worthy of starting.

The problem isn't Thompson and the players. It just makes you look foolish when you try to rip on them.

The issue right now is coaching and poor QB play.
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Post#51 » by raysbookclub » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:20 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I don't know what people that think the above are watching, but DB already mentioned it. We're hanging in games with bench players. Don't you think the fact that we're losing all these close games has more to do with coaching than personnel? If it was personnel AND we had major injuries, we'd be getting waxed. If anything, the last few games have shown how well TT has drafted.

The problem IS NOT TT. It's MM and so far this year, Rodgers as well. I don't know how anyone can complain at all about the D this year. It's the offense and that is on MM.


Yes, TT has done a good job, but I think it was a mistake not trading for Lynch. And yes, I agree, it's been MM, not TT, as the problem. Discipline problems: Penalties, dropped passes, sacks. ST, oh my goodness. How bad would they be if we didn't have 10 LBs and 3 FBs and 4 TEs? Yes, TT should not have cut Ryan, but wasn't that a coach's request (maybe the ST coach)?
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Post#52 » by Ayt » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:21 pm

I just wonder why we aren't running more.
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Post#53 » by LUKE23 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:21 pm

Newz wrote:I would ask PP to name one team that could compete for the Super Bowl if it lost (injury wise):

1st string RB, 1st/2nd string TE, 1st string RT

3x of their top 3 defensive linemen, 2x 1st string MLB, 1x starting OLB, 1x 1st string CB, 2x 1st/2nd string safeties

I would ask that, but I already know the answer for myself and it is no team. I'd like to see this magical general manager who has compiled a team full of 53 guys worthy of starting.

The problem isn't Thompson and the players. It just makes you look foolish when you try to rip on them.

The issue right now is coaching and poor QB play.


Yep.

What it really comes down to is that nobody on the free Earth thought we would even be discussing the offense as an issue this year. It's been bad. The D given the injuries has played above expectations. But it anything, the fact we're hanging in games with the most injuries we've had in 25 years (since I've been watching them), means we have talent. When you're ALWAYS losing close games, it comes back to coaching and execution.
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Post#54 » by Jollay » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:23 pm

Injuries, sminjuries.

Defense held in there considering.

If the offense can't win this game at home, we never were a contender anyway period. Spin it how you like. You guys are naive to think otherwise.

Oh that's right, we were missing Finley. And held in there regardless to get one long play, a couple of field goals, and a lucky four-down territory drive at the end.

I'm not on TT too much right now (more MM and the offense) , but he's no help. I expect a draft class of cherries next year to "put us over the edge" I'm sure...
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Post#55 » by Atnomage » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:23 pm

I think the poor QB play had to do with the offense and the play calling.
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Post#56 » by LUKE23 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:25 pm

Jollay wrote:Injuries, sminjuries.

Defense held in there considering.

If the offense can't win this game at home, we never were a contender anyway period. Spin it how you like. You guys are naive to think otherwise.

Oh that's right, we were missing Finley. And held in there regardless to get one long play, a couple of field goals, and a lucky four-down territory drive at the end.

I'm not on TT too much right now (more MM and the offense) , but he's no help. I expect a draft class of cherries next year to "put us over the edge" I'm sure...


Who is spinning anything about the offense? That is right, nobody.
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Post#57 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:25 pm

Wow amazing how the same ppl that acted like Favre was a god for his whole carrer and bent over for anything Favre did are now defending TT. A good GM would of brought in a RB or got Lynch. Enough said end of story.
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Post#58 » by Ayt » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:27 pm

BucksRuleAll22 wrote:Wow amazing how the same ppl that acted like Favre was a god for his whole carrer and bent over for anything Favre did are now defending TT. A good GM would of brought in a RB or got Lynch. Enough said end of story.


Which people?
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Post#59 » by Jollay » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:27 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
Jollay wrote:Injuries, sminjuries.

Defense held in there considering.

If the offense can't win this game at home, we never were a contender anyway period. Spin it how you like. You guys are naive to think otherwise.

Oh that's right, we were missing Finley. And held in there regardless to get one long play, a couple of field goals, and a lucky four-down territory drive at the end.

I'm not on TT too much right now (more MM and the offense) , but he's no help. I expect a draft class of cherries next year to "put us over the edge" I'm sure...


Who is spinning anything about the offense? That is right, nobody.


Don't recall saying anybody was. If you are, you're naive. Period.
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Post#60 » by rilamann » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:28 pm

Jollay wrote:Injuries, sminjuries.


If the offense can't win this game at home, we never were a contender anyway period. Spin it how you like. You guys are naive to think otherwise.
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+100

I been saying this the last couple weeks and it's why I said back then that the injuries don't bother me that much because even if we had great health this season,this team wasn't going anywhere but 10-6 at best anyway.

No matter how healthy we ever are or how talented we are,this team will never win big and play to it's full potential with MM as it's head coach.

Just like Dallas with Wade Phillips.
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