Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - 2023 Off Season

Ron Swanson · Post #41 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:53 pm

Neither Watkins nor Julio can stay healthy for a full season, but at least Julio can still clearly produce when he's out there. If Landry wants to come in on a discount then he's obviously the preferred option.

M-C-G · Post #42 » by **M-C-G** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:58 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Neither Watkins nor Julio can stay healthy for a full season, but at least Julio can still clearly produce when he's out there. If Landry wants to come in on a discount then he's obviously the preferred option.

Landry was looking for 20M a year. I don’t think he realizes what he is at this point.

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Matches Malone · Post #43 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:13 pm

Well Watkins it is

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Post #44 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:15 pm

Like it.

WRau1 · Post #45 » by **WRau1** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:22 pm

Good signing

Turk Nowitzki · Post #46 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:30 pm

Yeah fine with this. Also "up to 4 million" probably means not worth $4 million unless he hits some incentives which is ideal.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #47 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:38 pm

This feels like the insurance signing if the WR they draft early needs a little time.

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Matches Malone · Post #48 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Another plus is he knows how to play in cold weather games. Will probably still need decent production from whatever receivers we draft, but this will be a nice bridge to have someone in there to give Arod some vet consistency and someone to help guide the young guys.

Matches Malone · Post #49 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:54 pm

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M-C-G · Post #50 » by **M-C-G** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:17 pm

Sammy use to be a good kick returner. Wonder if that might be in play here too

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MikeIsGood · Post #51 » by **MikeIsGood** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:44 pm

M-C-G wrote:Sammy use to be a good kick returner. Wonder if that might be in play here too

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While it would be nice ideally, he really needs to be kept in a bubble. Even when he plays, it seems he's usually playing banged-up. Just one of those guys who can't avoid injury.

skones · Post #52 » by **skones** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:12 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:This feels like the insurance signing if the WR they draft early needs a little time.

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We have Cobb and Lazard in the WR core. That's it. There's little talent and no depth at all. It's a little more than that. I wouldn't call our 1/2 receiver insurance so much as I'd call it a necessity. The idea should be to grab as many 2 caliber guys even if low end and mix and match them all over the field to compensate for the lack of a top receiver. Watkins does that, Fuller does that, Jones does that, your picks do that. Put some competition in that room and let guys make eachother better.

Grab Fuller or Jones, draft a WR in the 1st, maybe one or two more later, and I'll be very happy with where we're at.

RiotPunch · Post #53 » by **RiotPunch** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:22 pm

WE NOW HAVE THE LIZARD KING AND THE LAZARD KING, THE OWL IS OURS MY FRIENDS

DrWood · Post #54 » by **DrWood** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:18 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:This feels like the insurance signing if the WR they draft early needs a little time.

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very few rookie WRs can step right in and be a #1 receiver.
Watkins is, when he's healthy, a #3-#4 receiver.

DrWood · Post #55 » by **DrWood** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:21 am

skones wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:This feels like the insurance signing if the WR they draft early needs a little time.

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We have Cobb and Lazard in the WR core. That's it. There's little talent and no depth at all. It's a little more than that. I wouldn't call our 1/2 receiver insurance so much as I'd call it a necessity. The idea should be to grab as many 2 caliber guys even if low end and mix and match them all over the field to compensate for the lack of a top receiver. Watkins does that, Fuller does that, Jones does that, your picks do that. Put some competition in that room and let guys make eachother better.

Grab Fuller or Jones, draft a WR in the 1st, maybe one or two more later, and I'll be very happy with where we're at.

So you're saying if all you have is mediocre guys that having more mediocre guys helps significantly? You can't run 6WR sets.

DrWood · Post #56 » by **DrWood** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:23 am

M-C-G wrote:Sammy use to be a good kick returner. Wonder if that might be in play here too

Watkins has never returned a kick in the NFL and has only played on 4 (FOUR!) special teams snaps in his career.

M-C-G · Post #57 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:30 pm

DrWood wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Sammy use to be a good kick returner. Wonder if that might be in play here too

Watkins has never returned a kick in the NFL and has only played on 4 (FOUR!) special teams snaps in his career.

Yeah, I should have mentioned in college.

Profound23 · Post #58 » by **Profound23** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:14 pm

How anyone can complain about a contract that is worth "UP TO" 4 mil is beyond me. Sure he hasn't been able to stay healthy, then the contract is like 2 mil and you at least tried.......or he produces/stays healthy and you pay him 4. Low risk, high reward move.

Better than 3/30 for MVS

skones · Post #59 » by **skones** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:13 pm

DrWood wrote:
skones wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:This feels like the insurance signing if the WR they draft early needs a little time.

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We have Cobb and Lazard in the WR core. That's it. There's little talent and no depth at all. It's a little more than that. I wouldn't call our 1/2 receiver insurance so much as I'd call it a necessity. The idea should be to grab as many 2 caliber guys even if low end and mix and match them all over the field to compensate for the lack of a top receiver. Watkins does that, Fuller does that, Jones does that, your picks do that. Put some competition in that room and let guys make eachother better.

Grab Fuller or Jones, draft a WR in the 1st, maybe one or two more later, and I'll be very happy with where we're at.

So you're saying if all you have is mediocre guys that having more mediocre guys helps significantly? You can't run 6WR sets.

Where did I say we're running 6 WR sets? We won a Superbowl on the back of a bunch of number 2 caliber receivers. Some WR hit, some don't. Cover your ass with cheap bets.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #60 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:06 pm

skones wrote:
DrWood wrote:
skones wrote:
We have Cobb and Lazard in the WR core. That's it. There's little talent and no depth at all. It's a little more than that. I wouldn't call our 1/2 receiver insurance so much as I'd call it a necessity. The idea should be to grab as many 2 caliber guys even if low end and mix and match them all over the field to compensate for the lack of a top receiver. Watkins does that, Fuller does that, Jones does that, your picks do that. Put some competition in that room and let guys make eachother better.

Grab Fuller or Jones, draft a WR in the 1st, maybe one or two more later, and I'll be very happy with where we're at.

So you're saying if all you have is mediocre guys that having more mediocre guys helps significantly? You can't run 6WR sets.
Where did I say we're running 6 WR sets? We won a Superbowl on the back of a bunch of number 2 caliber receivers. Some WR hit, some don't. Cover your ass with cheap bets.

We won the Super Bowl on the back of the best receiving group in the NFL. Holy revisionist history

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