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[Kerb Hohl]

Bevell...

[humanrefutation]

Let's back up for a moment on Chris Petersen.

I have to admit, he seems like the consensus favorite among everyone out there, but I guess I'm wondering if he's really the best guy for the job? Are we not concerned about Boise's competition and his interest in the Oregon job (which I think will be opening up soon)?

[humanrefutation]

Kyle Heikkinen ‏@Kyle_Heikkinen

Big1070 AM. reports Chris Peteresen will be interviewed by Barry Alvarez on Monday. I believe it. Lucas & Lepay are as connected as anyone.

That is the worst gif in the history of gifs.

[LUKE23]

Let's back up for a moment on Chris Petersen.

I have to admit, he seems like the consensus favorite among everyone out there, but I guess I'm wondering if he's really the best guy for the job? Are we not concerned about Boise's competition and his interest in the Oregon job (which I think will be opening up soon)?

I don't see the relevance of his interest in the Oregon job. He'll either not take the UW job because of it, or come to UW because that's the job he wants.

The guy is an extremely smart offensive coach and turned a program in Boise, Idaho into a place recruits actually wanted to go. I think he'd be one hell of a recruiter in Madison, he has a lot to sell recruits on from a personal level.

[ReasonablySober]

Let's back up for a moment on Chris Petersen.

I have to admit, he seems like the consensus favorite among everyone out there, but I guess I'm wondering if he's really the best guy for the job? Are we not concerned about Boise's competition and his interest in the Oregon job (which I think will be opening up soon)?

The Oregon job is opening up in about four weeks is my guess. If the Badgers somehow landed him I doubt he turns around and quits in 2 weeks.

And no, I'm not concerned with the competition. He's consistently brought in NFL quality recruits, and when they play the big boys they do well.

[humanrefutation]

The guy is an extremely smart offensive coach and turned a program in Boise, Idaho into a place recruits actually wanted to go. I think he'd be one hell of a recruiter in Madison, he has a lot to sell recruits on from a personal level.

And no, I'm not concerned with the competition. He's consistently brought in NFL quality recruits, and when they play the big boys they do well.

To be clear, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this or anything. I like Chris Petersen and would be thrilled, but I just wanted to back up and try to weigh the pros and cons to make sure that my excitement is justified.

[trwi7]

I would goo all over Jamie Lynn Spears.

[Fort Minor]

Bevell...

[xTitan]

Oregon has been grooming there o-coordinator for awhile, he is basically their Paul Chryst, so they are set.

[Bernman]

1. Al Golden (didn't think he was a possibility before)
2. Pat Fitzgerald
3. Chris Peterson

But all of them would be more than acceptable.

My concern with Peterson is that he recruited California and Texas heavily, when he didn't have to. Obviously it worked more than well enough for him, I would just worry that he would carry that strategy over to Wisconsin, when it's proven to work so poorly here over the years. Golden recruits Florida now because he's in Florida. He recruited the northeast when he was at Temple. His ties to the northeast would work well here like Barry's. Fitzgerald has midwest ties and his recruiting geographical map is somewhat reminiscent of Wisconsin's, only replace Wisconsin with Illinois. He has taken a few Wisconsin kids over the years. Obviously it's been hard for him to recruit Wisconsin against us.

I'm not so much bothered that Peterson ran a spread. That's what the staff before him employed as well. Same reason why I'm not too worried about Fitzgerald acclimating himself to Wisconsin's style offensively. Golden runs a pro style I think. There are next to no concerns about that.

[trwi7]

What's wrong with recruiting Texas and Florida? He'll obviously still recruit Wisconsin and a lot of the kids from Wisconsin will want to come here but I don't see what the problem is with recruiting hot beds for talent like California and Texas.

[RiotPunch]

That is the worst gif in the history of gifs.

Saw it in the FF Badger thread. I thought it was hilarious and disturbing, had to share it. We have a history of disturbing gifs on this Packer board.

[BUCKnation]

What's wrong with recruiting Texas and Florida? He'll obviously still recruit Wisconsin and a lot of the kids from Wisconsin will want to come here but I don't see what the problem is with recruiting hot beds for talent like California and Texas.

Bielema always recruited Florida heavily. There is no problems with doing that especially with the lack of talent in state.

A UW coach will always be able to Wisconsin guys if the program stays relevant. I think it would be a bonus to already have ties somewhere else like Petersen has with the West Coast and Golden has with the South.

[humanrefutation]

That is the worst gif in the history of gifs.

Saw it in the FF Badger thread. I thought it was hilarious and disturbing, had to share it. We have a history of disturbing gifs on this Packer board.

True, but I expect that from Wilford, our resident middle schooler. Not from you!

[Flames24Rulz]

Its been said that Fitzgerald would really only accept a job at a place like Notre Dame. I don't see him leaving Northwestern anytime soon.

[Bernman]

What's wrong with recruiting Texas and Florida? He'll obviously still recruit Wisconsin and a lot of the kids from Wisconsin will want to come here but I don't see what the problem is with recruiting hot beds for talent like California and Texas.

If you look at the track record of recruits from Texas, California, and even Florida, at Wisconsin, it's extremely poor. Naturally we aren't going to attract top talents from warm weather states who esteem the SEC, Big 12, and Pac 10. We get major program rejects instead. They still carry fairly high star ratings often times, but that's because of the over-exposure they receive in those to extent actual and perceived talent hotbeds. Even the lower level recruits that the major programs accept but spurn us wouldn't benefit us much if at all as a program. I recall a recruit named Marcus Trice who was a cornerback from Texas. He was short and slow, yet he generated a lot of hype from programs and recruiting services, being awarded 4 stars and eventually committing to Oklahoma. He has since transferred to North Texas. Xavier Harris, who ended up going to Wisconsin from Florida, was kind of the WR version of that guy. Short and slow, yet somehow enticed offers from the likes of Auburn and Clemson. Predictably, he didn't pan out and transferred God knows where. Those kids are afterthoughts in Wisconsin. Selectively choosing a recruit to take from those highly contested southern states here or there is fine, but they can't comprise a significant percentage of a Wisconsin recruiting class, for success to be likely at this program.

Focusing too heavily on the southern states definitely can take away from the state of Wisconsin and northern recruiting. You only get so many rides to offer per class. If you give them to a bunch of Texans, Floridians, and Californians, even many quality kids from Wisconsin will go elsewhere. They don't worship the program to the point they'll come here for free, if they even can. I remember a kid named Ben Ericksen from the Milwaukee area who looked like a great athlete on video. Wisconsin tried to sneak him in as a preferred walk-on, but he couldn't afford the tuition, and UW instead invested their resources into a couple Texas athletes like Darious Thomas and Josh Peprah. Neither did much of anything in college. Meanwhile, Ericksen led D1AA in interceptions this year, and in previous years a big returner for them. You can't say for sure how he would have fared in the Big Ten.....but he would have fared well. I wouldn't want to lose out on too many kids like that in state, and 1st choice northern recruits from NJ, etc., because we loaded up down south. In all our BCS bowl caliber seasons, half or more of our starters came from in state. At the beginning of this season we tried to win with a high percentage of out of state kids, approx. 16 of 22 starters. It was a disaster. Then we improved substantially when we started to incorporate the likes of Stave, Costigan, Watt, Burge, Dippel, etc. Then they took it to the next level with Gordon in the Big Ten Championship. I always try to point this out to people disparaging the talent in state, underrating our recruiting situation, and wanting to focus so much down south. Yet it continually falls on deaf ears. Far and away the most important criteria for our prospective head coach should always be how well they understand where Wisconsin's bread is buttered. It's in the Dairy State. Barry just reiterated it in his last press conference. He got that enough, which is in part why he succeeded here. Those who don't will probably fail.

[El Duderino]

What's wrong with recruiting Texas and Florida? He'll obviously still recruit Wisconsin and a lot of the kids from Wisconsin will want to come here but I don't see what the problem is with recruiting hot beds for talent like California and Texas.

Focusing too heavily on the southern states definitely can take away from the state of Wisconsin and northern recruiting. You only get so many rides to offer per class. If you give them to a bunch of Texans, Floridians, and Californians, even many quality kids from Wisconsin will go elsewhere.

I just did quick scan of the roster and only 15 of the players are from Florida, Texas, or California.

Four of those guys were starters in the secondary. One is Gilbert our best pass rusher. James White from Florida, A couple others are freshman DB's. One is Bart Houston, a highly touted QB recruit. Another southern kid was Monte Ball. Havenstein from Maryland.

On the flip side, there was 50 Wisconsin kids on the roster. Pretty much the rest of the kids came from Illinois, Ohio, Minnesota, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

So i have a hard time buying that Bielema was loading up his teams with overhyped southern kids at the expense of Wisconsin and northern kids, the numbers say otherwise and quite a few of those warm weather kids are key players on the team.

[xTitan]

Taggert from Western Kentucky took the So. Florida job, so he can be crossed off the list.

[humanrefutation]

When was Taggert an option?

[xTitan]

When was Taggert an option?

allegedly one of the first guys BA talked to.