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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#421 » by bizarro » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:44 pm

Another lively first day of FA for the Pack. I am at the edge of my seat!
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#422 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:53 pm

bizarro wrote:Another lively first day of FA for the Pack. I am at the edge of my seat!

I haven't seen a single player/contract that has caused me any serious disappointment at the lack of involvement from the Packers. Malik Jackson got a relatively reasonable deal from Philly and that is the one player we've been reported as being involved with so far.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#423 » by bizarro » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 pm

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bizarro wrote:Another lively first day of FA for the Pack. I am at the edge of my seat!

I haven't seen a single player/contract that has caused me any serious disappointment at the lack of involvement from the Packers. Malik Jackson got a relatively reasonable deal from Philly and that is the one player we've been reported as being involved with so far.


I am not complaining, fwiw.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#424 » by humanrefutation » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:07 pm

Le'Veon to the Packers in 3...2...1...
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#425 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:07 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Le'Veon to the Packers in 3...2...1...


Sure, why not.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#426 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:11 pm

Wanted Crowder...saw the Crowder contract...no longer want Crowder. Wanted Landon Collins...saw the Collins contract...no longer want Collins.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#427 » by Treebeard » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:12 pm

Is this NFL FA period taking on the contract craziness of the NBA of a couple of years ago? Where stupid spending still haunts the teams that overspent?
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#428 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:15 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Le'Veon to the Packers in 3...2...1...

Absolutely not :nonono:
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#429 » by RRyder823 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:15 pm

Treebeard wrote:Is this NFL FA period taking on the contract craziness of the NBA of a couple of years ago? Where stupid spending still haunts the teams that overspent?
You mean like every other NFL offseason for the teams that overspent on day one?

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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#430 » by Frank Nova » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:21 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:Le'Veon to the Packers in 3...2...1...


Sure, why not.
Ingram will be cheaper

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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#431 » by Treebeard » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:35 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
Treebeard wrote:Is this NFL FA period taking on the contract craziness of the NBA of a couple of years ago? Where stupid spending still haunts the teams that overspent?
You mean like every other NFL offseason for the teams that overspent on day one?

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Seems to be some really big guaranteed money getting shelled out.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#432 » by RRyder823 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:47 pm

Treebeard wrote:
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Treebeard wrote:Is this NFL FA period taking on the contract craziness of the NBA of a couple of years ago? Where stupid spending still haunts the teams that overspent?
You mean like every other NFL offseason for the teams that overspent on day one?

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Seems to be some really big guaranteed money getting shelled out.
This happens every year. It's why alot of us advocate to stay away from day one guys. The money that's spent on day one 8s just too crazy

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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#433 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:28 pm

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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#434 » by zmanishere11 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:41 pm

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I'm convinced that the way to kill yourself in free agency is those guys in the 8-14 mil range.

Leveon bell at 20 mil a year (which he probably gets) is too much, but at a minimum you get a guaranteed impact and difference maker for that money.

You can also pay Cobb and Graham that same amount combined, and get literally nothing.

When you get above $15 mil it's GENERALLY for guys who obviously deserve it. Unless they're one of the first 3 signings of the year (see Malik Jackson / Oliver Vernon).

And those middle priced guys - you never have a quick enough trigger to move on from them. Graham only costs us what $8 mil this year - he was injured last year, had a good attitude (NO HE F"ING LOST A STEP AND SUCKS BECAUSE OF THAT).

New England isn't out signing guys in that 8-14 mil range. They're going bargain shopping for numbers figuring some of these guys are gonna hit.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#435 » by RRyder823 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:49 pm

Graham never a "middle priced guy"

We made him the highest paid TE in the league

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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#436 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:06 pm

RRyder823 wrote:Graham never a "middle priced guy"

We made him the highest paid TE in the league

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LOL that's no where near true. They only guaranteed him $11 million. 13th in the NFL.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#437 » by zmanishere11 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:18 pm

[quote="RRyder823"]Graham never a "middle priced guy"

We made him the highest paid TE in the league

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Do you enjoy picking out individual sentences from entire statements to disagree with? I can't understand the enjoyment of that
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#438 » by Wisky4life » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:34 pm

I'd take a flyer on Mark Ingram over Le'veon Bell for what the money may be.
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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#439 » by RRyder823 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:52 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:Graham never a "middle priced guy"

We made him the highest paid TE in the league

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LOL that's no where near true. They only guaranteed him $11 million. 13th in the NFL.


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We have very different definitions of "no where near true"

Highest salary cap value + highest base= highest paid TE (apparently not to you)

From week 1 to week 17 no TE made more money last year. How exactly is this an "lol" moment?

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Re: 2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Interest in Dee Ford 

Post#440 » by zmanishere11 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:57 pm

What does Ingram do that Jones / Williams can't?

I just think Bell does something for this offense that you can't find at any other position in free agency.

Give him 20 mil for 4 years. Cut Perry / Graham, still leaves you 16 mil. Go defense heavy in the draft and try to find some lower end bargains in the FA pile.

And next year leaves you 56 mil to resign Clark and Martinez and whatever else you want

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