2022 NFL Draft discussion

[MickeyDavis]

Mocks are running wild, and as has been stated already here some "experts" change their mocks frequently to keep getting clicks. Anyway here is Bruce Feldman's mock from this morning, just the receivers and our 28th pick. He includes comments from college coaches. Since I'm only including WR I'll post his comments.

10. New York Jets: Drake London, WR, USC
There’s a lot of debate about which of two Ohio State receivers, Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave, is more talented, but the Jets go with the bigger, more physical option outside in London, who can be a go-to guy for Zach Wilson and a prime red zone weapon. The 6-foot-4, 219-pound former basketball star, who doesn’t turn 21 until late July, was dominant in 2021, catching 88 passes for 1,084 yards and seven TDs in eight games before a broken ankle ended his season.

The Coaching Intel

“You can see the basketball player in him because his ball skills are elite. He also plays faster than people think. That team he was on was awful, just a complete train wreck. But that kid brought it.”

“He just has a really good feel for spacing and very strong hands. You do wonder if he’s got enough juice to separate or get away from guys after the catch, but I think the quarterbacks will love him.”

“I think he’s one of the best receivers I’ve ever seen. He can really high-point the ball, and he runs routes like a little guy, getting in and out of his cuts. He’s not afraid to get dirty. People may question his top-end (speed), and he probably won’t wow you, but his functional football speed, with his pads on, is really good.”

“He’s a really tough matchup. He reminds me of Mike Evans. Both have those long bodies, but they’re not afraid to be really physical with people.”

“I was more scared of him than Olave. He scared you every snap. I just thought he could jump a little better than Olave and had more of the raw athleticism and explosiveness. He just seemed like a jackrabbit.”

17. Los Angeles Chargers: Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State
The Chargers can help their budding superstar quarterback Justin Herbert by adding more speed outside. They’ll have an interesting quandary in picking from two terrific Ohio State wideouts. They go Wilson over Olave, who is from Southern California, as Wilson plays a little bigger than his 6-foot, 185-pound frame and is more of an extrovert than his teammate. Olave is considered the faster of the two, but Wilson’s 4.38 40 at the combine and 36-inch vertical helped underscore a strong profile that is reflected in his excellent burst and ability to run after the catch. In 2021, he caught 70 passes for 1,058 yards and 12 touchdowns.

The Coaching Intel

“He’s explosive. He’s not quite as smooth as Olave, but he’s harder to tackle. I think he’s more workmanlike.”

“He’s really tough in one-on-one matchups. He’s so twitchy, bouncy, explosive. He has an amazing ability to decelerate as fast as he does, where it’s that stop on a dime, like you think he’s gonna tear his ACL. It’s wild, like he’s a rubber band. I do think he has to play with more discipline; he gets run off on his route sometimes. He’s tougher than Olave.”

18. New Orleans Saints: Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State
The Saints struck gold with a Buckeye receiver before in Michael Thomas. Olave is blazing fast and a legitimate home-run threat who excels at tracking the ball. In 2021, he made 65 catches for 936 yards and 13 touchdowns. He was a big part of the most loaded receiver room in college football.

The Coaching Intel

“He is super fast, but he’s more than just a deep ball guy. He is slight, though, and I think if you got him, you’d worry about him getting pressed.”

“Olave is so smooth and is so explosive in and out of his cuts. He does need to get a lot stronger.”

“He’s as advertised: really good route runner, fast, good ball skills; high-points it well. But the most talented of the Buckeye receivers isn’t in this draft (sophomore Jaxon Smith-Njigba).”

22. Green Bay Packers: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Losing Davante Adams is a big blow to the Packers, to Aaron Rodgers and to what is now a very suspect receiver room. Williams, who started his career in the loaded Ohio State receiver room, is coming off an ACL injury suffered during the second quarter of the national title game and probably won’t return to about 100% until midseason. But he is elite and a good value selection here.

His explosiveness at 6-foot-1 1/2 is too much to pass up, even with Burks available. In 2021, Williams had 79 catches for 1,572 yards, an Alabama record, and 15 touchdowns. His big-play potential is enormous, as evidenced by his FBS-leading four touchdowns of 70-plus yards last season. He also had 11 TDs of 30 yards or more, best in the country. As a kick returner, he averaged 35.2 yards with two touchdowns.

The Coaching Intel

“His speed is ridiculous. He runs away from people who are fast and makes them not look fast. He could be in the slot; can run a deep crossing route; is a dangerous return guy.”

“He has elite speed, ball skills and body control. A lot of guys are fast, but they can’t really control their body. He comes out of his breaks so well, tracks the ball well, and it’s his ability to move laterally that really separates him.”

“He has such elite speed and length. You’ve got to find ways to disrupt his timing. If you let him run free in zone (coverage), he’ll eat you up.”

“That this guy couldn’t get on the field as a receiver at Ohio State (where he only caught 15 passes) is kind of mind-blowing.”

24. Dallas Cowboys: Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
The Cowboys could use another edge rusher, but I’m not convinced they would go for someone like Minnesota’s Boye Mafe here. Could they go for an O-lineman here, in versatile prospect Green? Ultimately, they get receiver help and jump on Burks, a big, physical talent with huge hands from Jerry Jones’ alma mater. Burks, 6-foot-2 and 225 pounds, is excellent with the ball, and even though he was the marked man for rivals, he’s consistently been a big-play weapon for the Hogs. He torched Alabama last season for 179 yards on eight catches with two TDs. For the season, he had 66 catches for 1,104 yards and 11 TDs.

The Coaching Intel

“He scared the **** out of us because he’s so big and athletic. He’s not super dynamic, but he’s really physical. I think he’s gonna be a very good NFL player.”

“They did a ton of stuff with him. He’s a huge dude who bullies people. He also tracks the ball well. He’s pretty raw, and he was playing in a funky offensive system, but he’s such a good, pure athlete.”

“He’s competitive and makes those 50-50 balls a problem for you. He’s not a burner, but he’s fast enough and really hard to tackle.”

“I loved him. He’s so just physical. He reminded me of A.J. Brown.”

28. Green Bay Packers: Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan
I almost had Cross going here, but I think the Pack choose the one-time Austrian exchange student who really blossomed in the Mid-American Conference after converting from tight end. Neither Cross nor Raimann has great size relative to the other top tackles. Cross has more length; Raimann is stronger. Both are very athletic. Raimann, who broad-jumped 9-9 and clocked a 5.05 40 at 6-foot-6, 303 pounds, has really impressed coaches with his technique, but he still needs a lot of polish.

The Coaching Intel

“I liked his physicality. He could displace the D-linemen. He’s got very good feet, good balance and played with great pad level and stayed square. He really stood out.”

“His feet are excellent, and he shows a lot of athleticism, but you can tell he’s still working some things out in his pass sets, and he’s probably gonna get exposed for a while by better guys at the next level.”

[Treebeard]

Mocks are running wild, and as has been stated already here some "experts" change their mocks frequently to keep getting clicks. Anyway here is Bruce Feldman's mock from this morning, just the receivers and our 28th pick. He includes comments from college coaches. (snip)

28. Green Bay Packers: Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan
I almost had Cross going here, but I think the Pack choose the one-time Austrian exchange student who really blossomed in the Mid-American Conference after converting from tight end. Neither Cross nor Raimann has great size relative to the other top tackles. Cross has more length; Raimann is stronger. Both are very athletic. Raimann, who broad-jumped 9-9 and clocked a 5.05 40 at 6-foot-6, 303 pounds, has really impressed coaches with his technique, but he still needs a lot of polish.

The Coaching Intel

“I liked his physicality. He could displace the D-linemen. He’s got very good feet, good balance and played with great pad level and stayed square. He really stood out.”

“His feet are excellent, and he shows a lot of athleticism, but you can tell he’s still working some things out in his pass sets, and he’s probably gonna get exposed for a while by better guys at the next level.”

Raimann interests me, though I have no idea where he's going to be picked, or should be picked. Coming late to the game, he should have comparatively low mileage on his body. He should have benefited from learning the game from higher skilled coaches (in theory), so fewer bad habits to overcome. It also sounds like he's a superb athlete for the position

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I think I like that deal for the Eagles


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I think I like that deal for the Eagles


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Kind of bizarre to see that deal now vs at the time of the pick when the teams know who's on the board.

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Kind of bizarre to see that deal now vs at the time of the pick when the teams know who's on the board.

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Obviously it depends on who the Saints get, but that is a genius move for Philly. This draft is not very top heavy and they get the Saints first/second next year in a draft that has a few good QBs (if Hurts does not work out). The Saints could easily end up in the top 5 of the draft.

I still think Philly should draft Jameson Williams if they can to team him up with Smith. That would be a good WR duo.

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Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

[Profound23]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Right..I would have just traded pick 22 for the Saints 2023 first and 2023 second, they could have kept pick 18 and all the rest of their picks.

Not sure if the Saints would do that, but it's about equal value. I assume they are doing this to combine those picks and move up for a QB.

[ReasonablySober]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Right..I would have just traded pick 22 for the Saints 2023 first and 2023 second, they could have kept pick 18 and all the rest of their picks.

Not sure if the Saints would do that, but it's about equal value. I assume they are doing this to combine those picks and move up for a QB.

Of note, than 2nd is actually in 2024.

[ReasonablySober]

I keep seeing people on Twitter read this as a sign that NO is going to target a WR and OT, and I have no idea how they come to any conclusion that this isn't actually about landing the QB of their choice. You can't go into the next two seasons with Winston.

[jakecronus8]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

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Has the Packers coming away with Jameson and Burks. Part of me wants them to go edge and DT in round one, and WR/TE in the 2nd and 3rd.

But coming away with those two WRs is fap worthy

[DrWood]

Mocks are running wild, and as has been stated already here some "experts" change their mocks frequently to keep getting clicks. Anyway here is Bruce Feldman's mock from this morning, just the receivers and our 28th pick. He includes comments from college coaches. (snip)

28. Green Bay Packers: Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan
I almost had Cross going here, but I think the Pack choose the one-time Austrian exchange student who really blossomed in the Mid-American Conference after converting from tight end. Neither Cross nor Raimann has great size relative to the other top tackles. Cross has more length; Raimann is stronger. Both are very athletic. Raimann, who broad-jumped 9-9 and clocked a 5.05 40 at 6-foot-6, 303 pounds, has really impressed coaches with his technique, but he still needs a lot of polish.

The Coaching Intel

“I liked his physicality. He could displace the D-linemen. He’s got very good feet, good balance and played with great pad level and stayed square. He really stood out.”

“His feet are excellent, and he shows a lot of athleticism, but you can tell he’s still working some things out in his pass sets, and he’s probably gonna get exposed for a while by better guys at the next level.”

Raimann interests me, though I have no idea where he's going to be picked, or should be picked. Coming late to the game, he should have comparatively low mileage on his body. He should have benefited from learning the game from higher skilled coaches (in theory), so fewer bad habits to overcome. It also sounds like he's a superb athlete for the position

Raimann is a faddish pick. I've seen some scouts say the other OT on his team will probably have a better career, and he can be gotten a few rounds later.

[DrWood]

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I like the last 3 guys you picked.

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[DrWood]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

The time to trade for future picks is when you have no expectation of winning next year.

I've run a bunch of simulations and I don't like the outcome when we stand pat. There's a chance someone falls to #22 (Jameson Williams, Olave, Wyatt), but more often it will be a player who isn't a good fit. Even less of a chance for #28 to have a good player for the packers.
I wouldn't mind trading up to ensure we get Wyatt, but I don't think iDL will be a target after signing a veteran.

[jakecronus8]

Wish we could get in on sending one of our picks to a bad team for their 2023 first.

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

The time to trade for future picks is when you have no expectation of winning next year.

I've run a bunch of simulations and I don't like the outcome when we stand pat. There's a chance someone falls to #22 (Jameson Williams, Olave, Wyatt), but more often it will be a player who isn't a good fit. Even less of a chance for #28 to have a good player for the packers.
I wouldn't mind trading up to ensure we get Wyatt, but I don't think iDL will be a target after signing a veteran.

If they trade up I’d rather go all the way with it for a blue chipper.

Hamilton
Hutchison
Walker
Thibodeaux
Neal

all fit that bill (in that order).

[ReasonablySober]

Risky proposition. The NFL is the one league where you can go from worst to first in the blink of an eye

The time to trade for future picks is when you have no expectation of winning next year.

I've run a bunch of simulations and I don't like the outcome when we stand pat. There's a chance someone falls to #22 (Jameson Williams, Olave, Wyatt), but more often it will be a player who isn't a good fit. Even less of a chance for #28 to have a good player for the packers.
I wouldn't mind trading up to ensure we get Wyatt, but I don't think iDL will be a target after signing a veteran.

If they trade up I’d rather go all the way with it for a blue chipper.

Hamilton
Hutchison
Walker
Thibodeaux
Neal

all fit that bill (in that order).

I don't think they can get into the top five, or if they could I don't think the price is worth it.

The best trade-up guy IMO Davis. Haloti Ngata went #12 in the 2006 NFL draft, and every team that didn't take him 1-11 regretted it. Davis was the 2nd most dominant player in college football last season, and he backed it up with a ridiculous run up to the draft. If you can get him in the teens it's a steal.

[BallinBucks420]

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I like the last 3 guys you picked.

Ya if those are our first 2 picks i would be pretty pissed off lol..especially the CB at 28 after resigning Douglas...we got plenty of later picks for a development corner.....the two 2nd round picks would be great though