Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX

[Ron Swanson]

Frustration in the Browns and Bengals games was justified. Cardinals are a pretty decent team that's just gotten really unlucky this year. This was a good road win.

[MickeyDavis]

Most here seemed fine with going for it on 4th (since it worked). If it hadn't worked MLF would have got roasted for "not taking the sure points". That's how it goes lol.

4-1-1 feels just as good this morning as it did last night. 30 teams wish they had our record.

[Ron Swanson]

I'm glad they went for it and would have been regardless of the outcome, but thank god they converted because it's inexcusable by MLF to waste a timeout there with 2:32 left on the clock just because you're indecisive.

Hobbs was brutal, but both our big free agent acquisitions this offseason have really been absolute duds. Definitely the biggest whiff in an otherwise great offseason by Gute, but the secondary is officially a problem, and I'd at least start kicking the tires on what's available on the market or who can come in off the street.

[MVP2110]

Most here seemed fine with going for it on 4th (since it worked). If it hadn't worked MLF would have got roasted for "not taking the sure points". That's how it goes lol.

4-1-1 feels just as good this morning as it did last night. 30 teams wish they had our record.

I'm mad he wasted a timeout but going for it was absolutely the right call regardless of whether they got it or not. Kicking a fg to tie and giving the ball back go Arizona with 2 min and timeouts with them only needing to get into FG range would have been a terrible idea

[UWM_Brew_Buck]

I would saw I lean conservative in risk situations but I think going for it there was the only smart play. At best go into a coin flip OT and Giving the Cards 2+ mins to win the game was not the right call. Hell of a throw and catch and glad they changed their mind. Still crazy that we a game saving TO to think it over. Hopefully this can get them out of their time management/risk funk.

[ReasonablySober]

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[BUCKnation]

Would have been happy to go for it either way, was only upset that we wasted a timeout due to the indecision and that we were even in that position in the first place because of that stupid pitch play.

[Mags FTW]

Wonder what the trade market for Havrisik will be when McManus comes back...

[MickeyDavis]

Wonder what the trade market for Havrisik will be when McManus comes back...

He would definitely get a late round pick. Giants perhaps?

[CWoodfan]

2:30 to play, Jacobs had just had a good run to get the Pack to 3rd and 1 and MLF calls for a pitch out with Jacobs behind leading blocker ... Luke Musgrave ... who unsurprisingly fails, a true WTF call?

OK everyone makes a mistake, but then MLF trots out the FG unit and burns a TO while dithering about what he should do ... in year 7?

Thank God MLF belatedly grew a pair and let his 6th year QB try and make a play, which Jordan thankfully did.

Anyone think "meathead" Dan Campbell or Andy Reid hesitates to go for it in that position or that their players would have any worry that their HC would have had the cajones to do the right thing?

[MVP2110]

PFF grades(min 10 snaps)

Offense

Best
1. Zach Tom 74.3
2. Rasheed Walker 72.1
3. Josh Jacobs 71.2
4. Matthew Golden 67.1
5. Romeo Doubs 65.8

Worst
1. Jordan Morgan 34.8
2. Luke Musgrave 42.3
3. John Fitzpatrick 46
4. Malik Heath 50.6
5. Jordan Love 53.5


Defense

Best
1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. Colby Wooden 86
3. Isaiah Mcduffie 80.2
4. Xavier Mckinney 77.9
5. Javon Bullard 73

Worst
1. Barryn Sorrell 40
2. Nate Hobbs 47.9
3. Edgerrin Cooper 49.8
4. Keisean Nixon 57.7
5. Quay Walker 58.6

[RRyder823]

The more Hobbs plays the more im convinced I was right when I said barring injury he shouldn't be playing outside of dime packages

Valentine needs to be the starter on the outside next to Nixon. Man has done nothing but improve since being drafted and has played good when given the chance

Bullard has played good as the nickel slot corner

Hobbs isn't better then Valentine on the outside.

He isnt better then Bullard in the slot.

He should be our dime cb and its why I didnt see the point on signing him from the word go.



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[Profound23]

The more Hobbs plays the more im convinced I was right when I said barring injury he shouldn't be playing outside of dime packages

Valentine needs to be the starter on the outside next to Nixon. Man has done nothing but improve since being drafted and has played good when given the chance

Bullard has played good as the nickel slot corner

Hobbs isn't better then Valentine on the outside.

He isnt better then Bullard in the slot.

He should be our dime cb and its why I didnt see the point on signing him from the word go.



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Nobody can call this a 20/20 revisionist history thing because A LOT of the board was confused by this signing. Watching Stokes play well for one year, 4 mil as the replacement of Hobbs in Vegas is even worse. Banks and Hobbs seemed like signings just to be doing something and neither have looked great so far.

[Treebeard]

PFF grades(min 10 snaps)

Offense

Best
1. Zach Tom 74.3
2. Rasheed Walker 72.1
3. Josh Jacobs 71.2
4. Matthew Golden 67.1
5. Romeo Doubs 65.8

Worst
1. Jordan Morgan 34.8
2. Luke Musgrave 42.3
3. John Fitzpatrick 46
4. Malik Heath 50.6
5. Jordan Love 53.5


Defense

Best
1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. Colby Wooden 86
3. Isaiah Mcduffie 80.2
4. Xavier Mckinney 77.9
5. Javon Bullard 73

Worst
1. Barryn Sorrell 40
2. Nate Hobbs 47.9
3. Edgerrin Cooper 49.8
4. Keisean Nixon 57.7
5. Quay Walker 58.6

I'm a little surprised at Morgan's terrible score.

Musgrave, to my eyes has had a disappointing season in all facets so far.

Cooper seems to be in a sophomore slump to this point

[MVP2110]

I sort of get the feeling that Gutey had money burning a hole in his pocket this last offseason. It was a bad free agent class and he tried to find 2 younger guys that could fill needs on the roster. But it's pretty clear that he overspent considerably on both and would have been better off just trying to find cheaper 1 year guys or saving that money for future extensions

[RRyder823]

The more Hobbs plays the more im convinced I was right when I said barring injury he shouldn't be playing outside of dime packages

Valentine needs to be the starter on the outside next to Nixon. Man has done nothing but improve since being drafted and has played good when given the chance

Bullard has played good as the nickel slot corner

Hobbs isn't better then Valentine on the outside.

He isnt better then Bullard in the slot.

He should be our dime cb and its why I didnt see the point on signing him from the word go.



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Nobody can call this a 20/20 revisionist history thing because A LOT of the board was confused by this signing. Watching Stokes play well for one year, 4 mil as the replacement of Hobbs in Vegas is even worse. Banks and Hobbs seemed like signings just do be doing something and neither have looked great so far.

I could at least see the argument for the Banks signing. OK MLF wants more of a road grater at guard cause he likes to run the ball. Ok. over paid but I can see the vision even if I dont agree with it

Hobbs was "ok. so we just made him the most expensive dime CB in the league. awesome"...... Im a partially wrong on that so far since they insist on him playing as the starter because reasons

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[Ron Swanson]

Hobbs has been brutal but Vallentine sure as hell hasn't played like he's the answer there either. I think we were all fine letting Stokes go, but I don't know why they didn't keep someone like Corey Ballentine around for some veteran insurance. If you're also not gonna throw Melton out there occasionally for some coverage snaps, then I have no idea why we even bothered to convert him to corner in the first place.

[RRyder823]

Hobbs has been brutal but Vallentine sure as hell hasn't played like he's the answer there either. I think we were all fine letting Stokes go, but I don't know why they didn't keep someone like Corey Ballentine around for some veteran insurance. If you're also not gonna throw Melton out there occasionally for some coverage snaps, then I have no idea why we even bothered to convert him to corner in the first place.

Depends what you think the "answer" is but dissagree on Valentine. He played more then fine in the role the first few weeks before his snaps got taken away by Hobbs return from injury

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[raysbookclub]

Yeah I understand the vision for Banks, getting a huge G to maul dudes in front of Jacobs. Like the Eagles’ huge G. He hasn’t been good, but I think he could get better as the season goes on, esp after the injury early.

I always give GB GMs the benefit of the doubt, so Hobbs seemed fine at the time, a solid slot they paid like a top slot, who they thought they could teach to play well outside. He has been bad on the outside. Maybe he’s still recovering from the knee? Gotta be able to run to play outside CB, and maybe with meniscus repairs it takes a while to get speed and acceleration back.

[MickeyDavis]

Hobbs has been bad. It's revisionist to say we should have kept Stokes though. Stokes played a total of 12 games in 2022 and 2023. And while healthy last year he wasn't good. But Hobbs wasn't very good last year either so signing him was a head scratcher.