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Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:47 pm
by stillgotgame
Kerb Hohl wrote:stillgotgame wrote:rayallenscalves wrote:
A young QB needs a good running game behind him to really succeed. That has been non-existent for Love so far this year. At least Rodgers had a couple of good Ryan Grant years when he first started.
What happened to the concept of us running the ball more now that Rodgers is gone? I thought it was always his fault because he optioned to a pass play all the time.
We need to run the damn ball. Just because our line was totally outplayed doesn't excuse this fact. Put 3 tight ends in and run the ball. Get our offensive line to be aggressive instead of lying back and getting run over.
This is entirely on MLF. Team wasn't ready to play and then he panicked and threw is young QB to the wolves. Just horrible coaching.
I think it's this:
1. Trying to ease Jones back in
2. Everyone else behind him on the depth chart is terrible in NFL terms
3. The Lions have a great front 7
4. Our line is decimated
I don't think the game goes any differently last night if they pound the ball early unless Jones was able to get more touches than they seemed to be willing to give him.
All is true. Still need to run the ball. The twists the Lions defensive line used with the end coming inside and tackle rushing outside had no regard for the run at all.
No screens or trap plays to slow them down either.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:51 pm
by Profound23
Frank Nova wrote:Every Packer/Bucks fan needs to pen Jon Horst a nice big “you’re the man” letter and send it to him immediately. The Bucks acquiring Dame is now the only thing between the 2 franchises that matters. I’ve been saying it know forever and feel blue in the face at this point but the Packers coaching staff is disgraceful and upper management is right there with it. Everyone has been blowing Gutenkist for his recent drafts and MLF for his success as HC but when the Packers play a good team on a national stage, we look like amateurs every single time. It never fails. Starts from the top and has officially worked its way to the bottom. There’s zero hope for this franchise as a whole until the head of snake is removed. You can call me cynical all you want and tell me I’m wrong and show me nerd stats that try to prove otherwise, but at the end of the day these coaches, managers and personnel groupings aren’t winning a Super Bowl and that’s all that matters. Couldn’t get it done with a generational QB, sure as hell ain’t getting it done without one. #Bucksin6
I turned to my son at halftime and said "At least we got Dame!"
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:09 pm
by Ron Swanson
Snag a very winnable game against Vegas, then get healthy and reassess during the bye week at 3-2. Then three incredibly winnable games after that (Broncos, Rams, Vikings). Surprised at the amount of pessimism after this loss considering how well they fought back in the 2nd half, but maybe I shouldn't be.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:12 pm
by MVP2110
Ron Swanson wrote:Snag a very winnable game against Vegas, then get healthy and reassess during the bye week at 3-2. Then three incredibly winnable games after that (Broncos, Rams, Vikings). Surprised at the amount of pessimism after this loss considering how well they fought back in the 2nd half, but maybe I shouldn't be.
I think alot of fans expected us to win 10 or 11 games this season and that was just never really that likely given how young we are. Young players make mistakes often, even the good ones.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:17 pm
by LUKE23
Ron Swanson wrote:Snag a very winnable game against Vegas, then get healthy and reassess during the bye week at 3-2. Then three incredibly winnable games after that (Broncos, Rams, Vikings). Surprised at the amount of pessimism after this loss considering how well they fought back in the 2nd half, but maybe I shouldn't be.
They were never in the game. They definitely played better the second half but that was a very low bar. It’s more how they lost to me, being physically manhandled in every aspect.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:22 pm
by Ron Swanson
LUKE23 wrote:Ron Swanson wrote:Snag a very winnable game against Vegas, then get healthy and reassess during the bye week at 3-2. Then three incredibly winnable games after that (Broncos, Rams, Vikings). Surprised at the amount of pessimism after this loss considering how well they fought back in the 2nd half, but maybe I shouldn't be.
They were never in the game. They definitely played better the second half but that was a very low bar. It’s more how they lost to me, being physically manhandled in every aspect.
The offensive line is a mess right now, and I doubt we're ever going to be even a mediocre run defense as long as Barry's here. That said, still a lot of positives considering that again,
we're the youngest team in the league and games like this are gonna happen. Sucks that it had to be a division game, but Detroit's also really good, so idk. If we're at 3-2 before the bye week I think that's probably as good a start as most people were hoping for coming into the season.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:44 pm
by MickeyDavis
If we're still making the same "young team" mistakes in December I'll blame coaching. In September I won't. Not that MLF hasn't made mistakes, he's admitted he has. Much as you expect/hope a player makes a jump from season 1 to season 2 I expect to see a similar, but smaller, jump between games 1-4 and 13-17.
Supposedly Walker didn't know what he did on the FG attempt was illegal. If that's true then that's on Bisaccia. Players knowing what they can and can't do on kicks is special teams 101.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:58 pm
by Mags FTW
That game reminded me of the disaster in Denver when Rodgers only had 77 passing yards. Except that Denver D was one of the best of all time and won a SB.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:03 pm
by FAH1223
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:05 pm
by MVP2110
Michael Rodney
Last night wasn't great but hard to take that guy seriously, he's basically the Gery for the Packers
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:13 pm
by Kerb Hohl
There is an OL depth shortage league-wide. It sucks but they basically had to go all-in on Bakh because it's hard to find depth at this point.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:19 pm
by Matches Malone
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:26 pm
by MVP2110
The Lions smartly ran no huddle here so the Packers couldn't sub out. Probably should have burned a timeout though
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:29 pm
by MickeyDavis
Never heard of that Rodney guy
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:33 pm
by WeekapaugGroove
MickeyDavis wrote:Never heard of that Rodney guy
His goal seems to be to replace McGinn as the crochetyiest packer media member.
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Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:36 pm
by MVP2110
MickeyDavis wrote:Never heard of that Rodney guy
He's a classic never wrong guy. He was crapping last year on Gutey's draft record and talking about how could he miss several good late round guys and I asked him if he'd ever been wrong about an NFL Draft pick and he literally replied back saying he'd never been wrong before lmao
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:38 pm
by Giannisland34
The bad play seems to be more coaching than the youth. Only game MLF and company wasn’t out-coached so far this year was against the Bears. Last night that group was out-classed by a division rival. Pathetic!
MLF definitely didn’t look some genius play caller or elite coach that’s for sure. He hung his young QB out to dry and didn’t change until the game was way out of hand.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:41 pm
by VooDoo7
Love did look rough. His accuracy is not good. But LaF did him no favors with his play-calling to slow down that pass rush.
People complaining about LaF's play-calling better not be the same people who complained about Rodgers audibling out of his play-calls.
On a positive note, Carlson looks great after struggling during camp/pre-season.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:46 pm
by MVP2110
Giannisland34 wrote:The bad play seems to be more coaching than the youth. Only game MLF and company wasn’t out-coached so far this year was against the Bears. Last night that group was out-classed by a division rival. Pathetic!
MLF definitely didn’t look some genius play caller or elite coach that’s for sure. He hung his young QB out to dry and didn’t change until the game was way out of hand.
Lol the idea that MLF has gotten outcoached every game is flat out wrong. Atlanta & Nola were both favored to beat us heading into those games, we lost to ATL by 1 & beat New Orleans. We have the youngest team in the NFL since the winless Clevelans Browns. Last night was definitely his worst coaching job of the season but I don't think he expected his oline to get completely ran through either which makes it basically impossible to call any play of substance.
Re: Game 4: Lions at Packers - 7:15 - Prime/Channel 6 in MKE
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:00 pm
by Matches Malone