ATL: Offseason

Thunder Muscle · Post #461 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:37 pm

Rumor up here a few months back that 88 and his wife were getting a divorce and if you CCAP it, it looks like it could be true. And I thought she just tweeted the other day about not being able to date for 5 years b/c she's been married so long. So I wonder if alot of their cryptic tweets are in regards to that... Hard to say though...

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #462 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:13 pm

Yep, definitely looks like a divorce is in the works according to CCAP. Also interesting that there's a paternity suit on there as well. Wonder if it was one of those 18 year olds.

Can definitely see why Jermike wants to come back so much. It would suck to have to split that $10 million insurance policy with his soon to be ex-wife.

chuckleslove · Post #463 » by **chuckleslove** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:15 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:Yep, definitely looks like a divorce is in the works according to CCAP. Also interesting that there's a paternity suit on there as well. Wonder if it was one of those 18 year olds.

Can definitely see why Jermike wants to come back so much. It would suck to have to split that $10 million insurance policy with his soon to be ex-wife.

And baby's mama

raysbookclub · Post #464 » by **raysbookclub** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:35 am

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... th-packers

Jim Leonhard brought in for S depth? Maybe if someone gets hurt?

Does he still do returns?

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #465 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:52 pm

That Jimmy Graham deal doesn't seem too bad. $40 million over 4 years, $21 million guaranteed. He's only 27.

zmanishere11 · Post #466 » by **zmanishere11** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:18 pm

That Graham deal is a steal. Less per year and 2 less years than Percy Harvin got.....

jakecronus8 · Post #467 » by **jakecronus8** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:32 pm

I might take Graham over any WR (probably would actually). Good deal for the Saints.

Newz · Post #468 » by **Newz** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:33 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:I might take Graham over any WR (probably would actually). Good deal for the Saints.

Are we talking one year here or over the long haul? I would take Megatron over him either way. I would take Fitz over him if it was just a 1-2 year thing. I would probably rather have AJ Green long-term since he's so young.

I'd also rather have Gronk over him if you could promise me Gronk would be 100%... but since that dude is constantly crippled, I'd go with Graham.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #469 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:21 pm

I'd take Graham at that price over any of the WRs and their contracts. No question.

Newz · Post #470 » by **Newz** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:03 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:I'd take Graham at that price over any of the WRs and their contracts. No question.

If you factor in contracts, then I agree 100%.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #471 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:43 pm

Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck come in at #1 and #2 in Grantland's trade value article which takes into account a player's contract (among other things). Rodgers came in at #3 and Watt at #4.

http://grantland.com/features/nfl-trade ... ts-part-2/

Post #472 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:12 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck come in at #1 and #2 in Grantland's trade value article which takes into account a player's contract (among other things). Rodgers came in at #3 and Watt at #4.

http://grantland.com/features/nfl-trade ... ts-part-2/

I understand the general theme behind the decision to put Luck and Wilson ahead of Rodgers. But the biggest flaw in Barnwell's methodology is this: There is no way in hell I'd trade Rodgers for Wilson. None. The Packers would hang up on Seattle for even suggesting it. I don't think the Colts or Packers would trade Rodgers for Luck.

GB_Packers · Post #473 » by **GB_Packers** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:19 pm

Yeah, Wilson is talented but I don't think anyone really believes he's better than Rodgers. At least I hope not. He rode that defense and Lynch to his first ring and still needs to improve a lot before he's truly up there with Rodgers, Brady, Manning or Brees. But he's young and maybe one day he will be that good.

Does irritate me a bit he already has the same number of rings as Rodgers. Damn I want another title. The offense will be ready to go and if the defense can finally back Rodgers up again, we will be a legit contender again.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #474 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:24 pm

Agreed, HR. It's like suggesting Anthony Davis has more trade value than LeBron James. At a certain point, a player becomes so good that their contract value is inconsequential to their overall value.

Plus you add in the fact that Wilson has to get paid at the end of the season and it becomes even more laughable.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #475 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:12 pm

Can't believe Rodgers is going to be 31 this year. You forget about his age due to the number of years sitting behind Favre. 5 (Wilson) and 6 (Luck) years make up a huge difference. As great as Rodgers is, I see the team winning due to his skill, whereas Wilson brings something else. He just makes his team better even if it doesn't show up in the stats.

Aaron It Out · Post #476 » by **Aaron It Out** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:16 pm

Quarterbacks have a different career lifespan than most other athletes. He's probably just entering the prime of his career right now.

El Duderino · Post #477 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:42 pm

Aaron It Out wrote:Quarterbacks have a different career lifespan than most other athletes. He's probably just entering the prime of his career right now.

Clearly Rodgers can still be great for a number of years, especially now that the NFL protects quarterbacks the way they do today. The one area though which is inevitable to decline is Rodgers athleticism. I'm not saying that he'll become a Peyton Manning like statue in the pocket, but he won't be as special creating big plays so often on the move as the pocket collapses, kinda as happened to Favre as he aged.

Granted though, Brett played most of his career during a time where quarterbacks were allowed to be hit much harder more often, so his body took a bigger beating. Maybe because of the new rules, Aaron will be able to use his feet longer simply because his body/legs took less of a beating over his career.

emunney · Post #478 » by **emunney** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:51 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck come in at #1 and #2 in Grantland's trade value article which takes into account a player's contract (among other things). Rodgers came in at #3 and Watt at #4.

http://grantland.com/features/nfl-trade ... ts-part-2/

I understand the general theme behind the decision to put Luck and Wilson ahead of Rodgers. But the biggest flaw in Barnwell's methodology is this: There is no way in hell I'd trade Rodgers for Wilson. None. The Packers would hang up on Seattle for even suggesting it. I don't think the Colts or Packers would trade Rodgers for Luck.

I think he's discounting the fact that Luck and Wilson probably get huge contracts within the year and then won't have that advantage anymore. Ostensibly you don't trade [for] a guy just for that next season.

El Duderino · Post #479 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:52 pm

Just saw that Justin Blackmon is back in trouble again after getting busted for weed possession, joining Josh Gordon as highly skilled young receivers throwing away their careers. Amazing stupidity.

I think weed should be legal, but it currently isn't, so what the hell is wrong with these idiots? At least wait until you are wealthy as all hell and then party away. Plus, for the time being, stop smoking bud in your car where just one wrong move driving can attract a cop.

El Duderino · Post #480 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:04 pm

GB_Packers wrote:Yeah, Wilson is talented but I don't think anyone really believes he's better than Rodgers. At least I hope not. He rode that defense and Lynch to his first ring and still needs to improve a lot before he's truly up there with Rodgers, Brady, Manning or Brees. But he's young and maybe one day he will be that good.

Does irritate me a bit he already has the same number of rings as Rodgers. Damn I want another title. The offense will be ready to go and if the defense can finally back Rodgers up again, we will be a legit contender again.

I think you underrate how productive Wilson has been, even though Rodgers is better right now.

Russell isn't asked to throw the ball as much as other elite QB's do, but he has a good completion percentage, back to back 100 QB rating, he doesn't turn the ball over much, and he ran for 539 yards, a number of those runs preventing potential sacks and instead resulting in first downs. He also hasn't been blessed with a high quality receiver core as some top tier quarterbacks have had.

A guy like Trent Dilfer rode a great defense and running game to a ring. Wilson was a much bigger contributor to his ring even though he did have a great defense and running game to help out.