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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#481 » by Treebeard » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:17 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:Love is dead IMO.


Hopefully we are not talking about Jordan here. That said, all world QB gallivanting with high profile hollywood woman doesn't work out again??? Gee, shocked.


High profile? I probably couldn't spontaneously even think of her name if my life depended on it. Shanise or something?

Your point is taken though.


I think Shanise was John Candy's girlfriend in Uncle Buck. :lol: :lol: Well,.... You never know with Aaron....
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#482 » by Profound23 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:13 am

Keenan Allen trying to recruit Davante.

That offense would be insane. If Rodgers goes to Denver and Adams goes to Chargers that would be the toughest division in football (which would be great for our future picks).
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#483 » by M-C-G » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:21 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Love is dead IMO.


Hopefully we are not talking about Jordan here. That said, all world QB gallivanting with high profile hollywood woman doesn't work out again??? Gee, shocked.


High profile? I probably couldn't spontaneously even think of her name if my life depended on it. Shanise or something?

Your point is taken though.


I was going to put Hollywood, but then Danica didn't really fit. So high profile was the best I could come up with.

My underlying point, these are likely all fake relationships, as have been done with sports, hollywood and political figures for decades.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#484 » by Matches Malone » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:07 pm

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#485 » by Profound23 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:22 pm

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I like it either way! Clements did a great job with Murray and I would trust him with Love if Rodgers leaves.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#486 » by LittleRooster » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:40 pm

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I like it either way! Clements did a great job with Murray and I would trust him with Love if Rodgers leaves.

Yep. Love Clements in this role


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#487 » by jute2003 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:46 pm

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Hopefully we are not talking about Jordan here. That said, all world QB gallivanting with high profile hollywood woman doesn't work out again??? Gee, shocked.


High profile? I probably couldn't spontaneously even think of her name if my life depended on it. Shanise or something?

Your point is taken though.


I was going to put Hollywood, but then Danica didn't really fit. So high profile was the best I could come up with.

My underlying point, these are likely all fake relationships, as have been done with sports, hollywood and political figures for decades.


She is certainly high profile. The divergent movies were huge and she has been the lead actress in other films as well. She isnt any less famous Just because some rando on the internet doesn't like her.

It is absolutely unsurprising that it didn't work out.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#488 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:21 pm

Tom Clements coming out of retirement at 68 to be the QB coach. He was here from 2006-2016 before retiring. A Rodgers favorite.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#489 » by humanrefutation » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:37 pm

They're really trying to do whatever they can to bring back Rodgers.

Gute probably feels like his legacy is on the line if Rodgers bolts so he's either trying to lure him back or convince the media that the Packers did everything they could to keep him - they must not have a lot of confidence in Love.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#490 » by Ryan5UW » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:25 pm

If you're Kumerow, are you just waiting by the phone, or already en route to Green Bay to sign the contract?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#491 » by M-C-G » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:42 pm

humanrefutation wrote:They're really trying to do whatever they can to bring back Rodgers.

Gute probably feels like his legacy is on the line if Rodgers bolts so he's either trying to lure him back or convince the media that the Packers did everything they could to keep him - they must not have a lot of confidence in Love.


Or Rodgers is playing at a MVP level and they want to milk that for all that they can.

I just don’t get the assumption this has much to do with Love at this point. He is somewhat irrelevant until Rodgers decides he wants to go elsewhere, retire or his play dips from the last two years.


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#492 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:28 pm

Honestly I'm just shocked that trading up in the 1st round for a QB when you have prime Aaron Rodgers on your roster, and are knocking on the door of a Super Bowl, turned out to be a bad decision. Shocked. Who could have possibly predicted offseason drama every year as a result? Just baffled by what has transpired.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#493 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:41 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:Honestly I'm just shocked that trading up in the 1st round for a QB when you have prime Aaron Rodgers on your roster, and are knocking on the door of a Super Bowl, turned out to be a bad decision. Shocked. Who could have possibly predicted offseason drama every year as a result? Just baffled by what has transpired.

Rodgers’ play had been falling off the two previous seasons before they drafted Love and Father Time is undefeated.

Anyways, friend of a friend told me that even though he hasn’t shaved in months, Aaron recently lost his beard.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#494 » by M-C-G » Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:55 pm

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JimmyTheKid wrote:Honestly I'm just shocked that trading up in the 1st round for a QB when you have prime Aaron Rodgers on your roster, and are knocking on the door of a Super Bowl, turned out to be a bad decision. Shocked. Who could have possibly predicted offseason drama every year as a result? Just baffled by what has transpired.

Rodgers’ play had been falling off the two previous seasons before they drafted Love and Father Time is undefeated.

Anyways, friend of a friend told me that even though he hasn’t shaved in months, Aaron recently lost his beard.


This is turning into an impossible conversation, because you can easily prove that Rodgers was not playing all that well other than the TD:INT ratio and all signs were pointing toward decline. But there is a faction of people here who simply wish that away so they can make awesome commentary such as '!tRadiNg uP in tHe FIrsT'.

This same faction will tell you with a straight face, that everyone should have known there were at least two years of back to back MVP sitting there to be had despite his last all pro being in 2014. But everyone should have known, and on top of that the only reason he wasn't MVP every year since 2014 is because someone else's fault, for what, don't know, but it wasn't on Aaron.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#495 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:00 pm

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JimmyTheKid wrote:Honestly I'm just shocked that trading up in the 1st round for a QB when you have prime Aaron Rodgers on your roster, and are knocking on the door of a Super Bowl, turned out to be a bad decision. Shocked. Who could have possibly predicted offseason drama every year as a result? Just baffled by what has transpired.

Rodgers’ play had been falling off the two previous seasons before they drafted Love and Father Time is undefeated.

Anyways, friend of a friend told me that even though he hasn’t shaved in months, Aaron recently lost his beard.


This is turning into an impossible conversation, because you can easily prove that Rodgers was not playing all that well other than the TD:INT ratio and all signs were pointing toward decline. But there is a faction of people here who simply wish that away so they can make awesome commentary such as '!tRadiNg uP in tHe FIrsT'.

This same faction will tell you with a straight face, that everyone should have known there were at least two years of back to back MVP sitting there to be had despite his last all pro being in 2014. But everyone should have known, and on top of that the only reason he wasn't MVP every year since 2014 is because someone else's fault, for what, don't know, but it wasn't on Aaron.


Agree with all of this.

Brady’s success has always messed with people’s opinions on Rodgers too. He’s a cyborg. Because he did it until age 44 or whatever it is, people are expecting the same from Rodgers.

As I said before, Father Time dont do no jobs for anyone. I think it’s absolutely crazy if they turn down an offer even close to what’s being speculated for a 39 year old guy that coincidentally if you also jettison almost saves your impossible salary cap situation by itself.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#496 » by PintSizedBox10 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:40 pm

If the organization offers Rodgers more money I think it would be kinda dumb to say the decision has nothing to do with Love.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#497 » by M-C-G » Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:04 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:If the organization offers Rodgers more money I think it would be kinda dumb to say the decision has nothing to do with Love.

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How so? If they offer him the highest paid QB in the league, it is to satisfy his ego and come back here to play. What does that have to do with Love? That's the cost of keeping Rodgers 'happy' enough to play here another year.

If you are extending Rodgers it is 100% because you are trying to extend your Super Bowl window. To me, other than saying 'I don't think Love is ready to lead us to a Super Bowl', it doesn't really have anything to do with him, as much as it is about appeasing Rodgers.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#498 » by PintSizedBox10 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:43 pm

Clements came out of retirement and now we're hearing rumblings of giving an old ass QB even more money. Which is stupid considering the cap situation and the fact it's much easier to win with a QB making peanuts.

I'd be pissed if I was Love.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#499 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:51 pm

The only way bringing Rodgers back makes sense is if he really is set on playing four or five more years. Because if "the window" is one or two seasons, I don't think they're real contenders with what's going to be on the field next season.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Clements back as QB Coach 

Post#500 » by LUKE23 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:03 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:Clements came out of retirement and now we're hearing rumblings of giving an old ass QB even more money. Which is stupid considering the cap situation and the fact it's much easier to win with a QB making peanuts.

I'd be pissed if I was Love.

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This is only true if you have a stud young QB though, of which I have serious doubts that Love is.

Now, if I had to choose the right move, I trade Rodgers. But it's not because I think Love is legit, it's just that I think it's the best move for the future of the Packers. I tag DA, trade him with Rodgers to Denver, and play hardball to get every single draft/young asset we can. I then keep our D together, give Love the full 2022 season, and if he doesn't look like that dude, I am taking a QB high in 2023.

Keeping Rodgers only makes sense if it's a 3-year thing or so. And even then, the only way we are winning a SB is if he starts to play better in the damn playoffs. And in that scenario, you are likely losing some key defensive pieces.

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