Jordan Love Thread - All Aboard the Love Train

[Profound23]

Say this really does fall off a cliff in the next five games...is there a world in which we see Love benched for Clifford?

I don't think so. You have to give him the full season for assessment before potentially moving on in the offseason.

[ReasonablySober]

Say this really does fall off a cliff in the next five games...is there a world in which we see Love benched for Clifford?

I don't think so. You have to give him the full season for assessment before potentially moving on in the offseason.

My thinking here is the Packers roughest part of their schedule is the next five games. 0-5 is a legit possibility. It leaves them at 2-10 heading into the final stretch and by then tanking really does become important, given the cupcakes they face to close out the season.

The team could justify a switch by saying Jordan needs some time on the sidelines. Or they need to evaluate Clifford heading into an offseason where they may be in the market for another QB.

I don't know.

[MoMM]

What if we get #1 pick and Bears offer #2 and #3-4-5, so we can draft any combination of Maye, Harrison, Bowers or the top OLs. Would you accept it?

[ReasonablySober]

What if we get #1 pick and Bears offer #2 and #3-4-5, so we can draft any combination of Maye, Harrison, Bowers or the top OLs. Would you accept it?

I'd have to really love Drake Maye, but I don't think I'll get there.

[Profound23]

What if we get #1 pick and Bears offer #2 and #3-4-5, so we can draft any combination of Maye, Harrison, Bowers or the top OLs. Would you accept it?

Probably not, but if I did they would have to include Darnell Wright, DJ Moore and the Panthers 2025 2nd round pick too. I doubt they would do that, but I am throwing out the NFL draft pick trade chart. You want Caleb? You have to give up everything you received from Carolina for Bryce Young.

Imagine doing that and you give them Peyton Manning as you draft Ryan Leaf.

[coolhandluke121]

Say this really does fall off a cliff in the next five games...is there a world in which we see Love benched for Clifford?

I don't think so. You have to give him the full season for assessment before potentially moving on in the offseason.

You could also argue in favor of letting him see each Central defense twice, just to see if he makes any good adjustments. "Try harder to throw the ball good" is not really a mental maturation thing though.

Still hope they give Clifford some game action regardless. It can be just a few series, and it would be easy to justify once you're 3-9 or whatever.

[PintSizedBox10]

Guys, there is no way on earth Clifford is getting any snaps unless Love is injured or the game is out of reach.

[ReasonablySober]

Guys, there is no way on earth Clifford is getting any snaps unless Love is injured or the game is out of reach.

If the Packers are in a serious tank-off with a game or two remaining and Caleb Williams is the prize, I wouldn't put anything past the organization.

[th87]

Guys, there is no way on earth Clifford is getting any snaps unless Love is injured or the game is out of reach.

If the Packers are in a serious tank-off with a game or two remaining and Caleb Williams is the prize, I wouldn't put anything past the organization.

Optics won't let them IMO.

[MVP2110]

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This last game against the Rams was imo Love's best game of the season. A great 2nd half, 4/5 on the 2 minute drill to get them into FG range, and only threw 6 incompletions(1 of which was a spike, 1 was a throwaway, and 1 was a drop). Overall a really solid game from him. He did have the really bad underthrow to Watson but that's probably the only throw that was really bad. Now the question will be if he can keep building on this.

[MVP2110]

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Jordan Love finally had a good game throwing deep yesterday

[Treebeard]

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Jordan Love finally had a good game throwing deep yesterday

I think he still shows spot accuracy issues (too much need to reach for catches), but there were some longer throws 2nd half, to the eye test, looked like they had more velocity, less loft under them. More time to set up the throws? He had plenty of time on many plays, but that may also point to recievers not getting separation all the time either.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Jordan Love finally had a good game throwing deep yesterday

I think he still shows spot accuracy issues (too much need to reach for catches), but there were some longer throws 2nd half, to the eye test, looked like they had more velocity, less loft under them. More time to set up the throws? He had plenty of time on many plays, but that may also point to recievers not getting separation all the time either.

I think his accuracy is tied to inconsistent mechanics, which is pretty concerning to me since he had 3 years to work on mechanics. Players tend to revert back to their old habits once the bullets are flying.



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[MVP2110]

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Jordan Love finally had a good game throwing deep yesterday

I think he still shows spot accuracy issues (too much need to reach for catches), but there were some longer throws 2nd half, to the eye test, looked like they had more velocity, less loft under them. More time to set up the throws? He had plenty of time on many plays, but that may also point to recievers not getting separation all the time either.

I think his accuracy is tied to inconsistent mechanics, which is pretty concerning to me since he had 3 years to work on mechanics. Players tend to revert back to their old habits once the bullets are flying.



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It certainly makes sense when you look at his numbers when he's pressured vs when he isnt. The question will be if over time as the game slows down for him will he improve those numbers under pressure or is that a fatal flaw of his that won't be corrected. I don't think we know yet

[MVP2110]

People who say they don't see flashes from Jordan Love are either lying to themselves or not looking for them

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[MVP2110]

Through 8 games of watching Love I feel pretty confident in saying he has the talent to be a top 10 QB in the NFL. The question is whether or not he will ever put it all together though. He seems to be a completely different QB when he's pressured vs when he has time. When he has a clean pocket his mechanics are usually great and he makes great reads which results in positive results, but he gets flustered too often when his line doesn't give him time resulting in bad mechanics and some bad decision making. The biggest question to me is whether or not he can fix that particular issue. As he plays more will the game slow down for him or not and I'm not sure that's something we can even answer this season. If GB somehow ends up with an opportunity at Caleb or Maye they should absolutely take it but otherwise I'm very content to let Love have a 2nd season and see if he can grow.

[Wizardofwisc]

Through 8 games of watching Love I feel pretty confident in saying he has the talent to be a top 10 QB in the NFL. The question is whether or not he will ever put it all together though. He seems to be a completely different QB when he's pressured vs when he has time. When he has a clean pocket his mechanics are usually great and he makes great reads which results in positive results, but he gets flustered too often when his line doesn't give him time resulting in bad mechanics and some bad decision making. The biggest question to me is whether or not he can fix that particular issue. As he plays more will the game the slow down for him or not and I'm not sure that's something we can even answer this season. If GB somehow ends up with an opportunity at Caleb or Maye they should absolutely take it but otherwise I'm very content to let Love have a 2nd season and see if he can grow.

This is exactly where I am at. Watching him, you see the talent. However, when he has pressure and I will add consistant early pressure, he seems to get happy feet. However, I have also seen a few throws that wow'd me. Not because the throw was ridiculous but because it was just a great throw. With the defenses that are coming up, I hope that we can give him enough time to get him to get the game to slow down. However, I am not confident that the young offensive line will be able to do that for him. Thus, we may be in a postion where we will need that second year.

[MVP2110]

Through 8 games of watching Love I feel pretty confident in saying he has the talent to be a top 10 QB in the NFL. The question is whether or not he will ever put it all together though. He seems to be a completely different QB when he's pressured vs when he has time. When he has a clean pocket his mechanics are usually great and he makes great reads which results in positive results, but he gets flustered too often when his line doesn't give him time resulting in bad mechanics and some bad decision making. The biggest question to me is whether or not he can fix that particular issue. As he plays more will the game the slow down for him or not and I'm not sure that's something we can even answer this season. If GB somehow ends up with an opportunity at Caleb or Maye they should absolutely take it but otherwise I'm very content to let Love have a 2nd season and see if he can grow.

This is exactly where I am at. Watching him, you see the talent. However, when he has pressure and I will add consistant early pressure, he seems to get happy feet. However, I have also seen a few throws that wow'd me. Not because the throw was ridiculous but because it was just a great throw. With the defenses that are coming up, I hope that we can give him enough time to get him to get the game to slow down. However, I am not confident that the young offensive line will be able to do that for him. Thus, we may be in a postion where we will need that second year.

Agreed. Although throwing with pressure is always something an NFL quarterback is going to have to do atleast part of the time and something Love certainly needs to improve on

[LUKE23]

Love is 16th in EPA, so dead average. Basically, what that is saying - he hasn't been good, but given his line play and supporting cast (drops, lack of contested catches), he's not been a bottom 5 QB either. As mentioned prior, still need more sample size.

[stillgotgame]

Love is 16th in EPA, so dead average. Basically, what that is saying - he hasn't been good, but given his line play and supporting cast (drops, lack of contested catches), he's not been a bottom 5 QB either. As mentioned prior, still need more sample size.

Dead average throwing to this cast of inexperienced receivers and tight ends would be an incredible accomplishment.

Good thing is it appears that a receiver is beginning to emerge as a legit #1. Watch Wicks and you can see him get far more separation than the other guys. He’s got some nice natural moves and burst out of his breaks. He’s had some drops too but that is going to happen with young receivers and an inexperienced quarterback.