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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#521 » by neiLz » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:33 am

Got this offer on the table. Lineup is 1 qb, 2 rbs, 3 WR's 1 te. PPR.
Receive :
Golden Tate and Fleener
Trade Witten and Gillislee

Team would then be :

Rb :
Theo Riddick
Spencer Ware
Jamaal Charles
Ty Montgomery
Jeremy Hill

WR
Larry Fitz
Allen Robinson
Tate
Jordan Mathews
Ty Montgomery
Chris Hogan

TE
Eifert
Fleener

I think its pretty even but my receivers suck (outside of fitz) and tate is a huge risk/reward pick up along with fleener. I won't play gillislee unless mccoy is hurt, but then would be playing him as a matchup play with whomever has the best matchup between riddick, hill, montgomery.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#522 » by mlloyd10 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:20 pm

ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Got this offer on the table. Lineup is 1 qb, 2 rbs, 3 WR's 1 te. PPR.
Receive :
Golden Tate and Fleener
Trade Witten and Gillislee

Team would then be :

Rb :
Theo Riddick
Spencer Ware
Jamaal Charles
Ty Montgomery
Jeremy Hill

WR
Larry Fitz
Allen Robinson
Tate
Jordan Mathews
Ty Montgomery
Chris Hogan

TE
Eifert
Fleener

I think its pretty even but my receivers suck (outside of fitz) and tate is a huge risk/reward pick up along with fleener. I won't play gillislee unless mccoy is hurt, but then would be playing him as a matchup play with whomever has the best matchup between riddick, hill, montgomery.


Is Ty eligible at RB? IF so, i would do that
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#523 » by skones » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:27 pm

2 Receivers and a Flex:

Amari Cooper (TB)
Kelvin Benjamin (AZ)
Alshon Jeffery (MIN)
Mike Gillislee (NE)
Michael Thomas (SEA)

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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#524 » by Profound23 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:09 am

Two weeks ago I had no backs except for Gurley who was doing jacksh**.

Now I have Ajayi, Booker, and if Murray is down for an extended period of time.....Derrick Henry.

Gurley may find himself on my bench when he comes off the bye week. Who would have thought?
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#525 » by Gianstoppable » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:34 pm

My team has scored 863 points, 1st in my league

My team has also given up 926 points, also 1st in the league

2-5 :(

Doesnt help that I traded Jeremy Hill and Yeldon for Allen Robinson and hes been garbage since I got him.

Oh BTW, David Johnson at #8 is probably my best late 1st round pick ever, that dude can play.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#526 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:42 pm

skones wrote:2 Receivers and a Flex:

Amari Cooper (TB)
Kelvin Benjamin (AZ)
Alshon Jeffery (MIN)
Mike Gillislee (NE)
Michael Thomas (SEA)

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Not sure if it is too late, but you obviously have to start Cooper. I'd probably lean toward Kelvin, as those are some nasty match ups for your guys. If Jordan Reed is out, I might spot start Jamison Crowder if he is on the waiver wire, Cincy slot coverage is their weakness.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#527 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:43 pm

Profound23 wrote:Two weeks ago I had no backs except for Gurley who was doing jacksh**.

Now I have Ajayi, Booker, and if Murray is down for an extended period of time.....Derrick Henry.

Gurley may find himself on my bench when he comes off the bye week. Who would have thought?


Gurley is exactly like he was last year, minus those signature 50 plus yard plays he had. I never would have thought, and would have taken him probably number 3 in my draft. I've been holding Henry waiting all year for Demarco to get hurt as he always does, could be a monster down the stretch.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#528 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:46 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:My team has scored 863 points, 1st in my league

My team has also given up 926 points, also 1st in the league

2-5 :(

Doesnt help that I traded Jeremy Hill and Yeldon for Allen Robinson and hes been garbage since I got him.

Oh BTW, David Johnson at #8 is probably my best late 1st round pick ever, that dude can play.


Time to fire your defensive coordinator man. Watching the jags last night, I couldn't believe how bad Bortles looks, as it was the first time I saw him play this year. Somehow he still put up over 300 yards, but he has ZERO chemistry with his WR, like none
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#529 » by skones » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:58 pm

M-C-G wrote:
skones wrote:2 Receivers and a Flex:

Amari Cooper (TB)
Kelvin Benjamin (AZ)
Alshon Jeffery (MIN)
Mike Gillislee (NE)
Michael Thomas (SEA)

Non PPR Standard


Not sure if it is too late, but you obviously have to start Cooper. I'd probably lean toward Kelvin, as those are some nasty match ups for your guys. If Jordan Reed is out, I might spot start Jamison Crowder if he is on the waiver wire, Cincy slot coverage is their weakness.


None of them went yesterday so I've still got to pick 3.

Currently leaning Cooper/Benjamin and then Gillislee in my flex. Jeffery would be a no-brainer in my flex if it weren't for Minnesota.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#530 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:39 pm

skones wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
skones wrote:2 Receivers and a Flex:

Amari Cooper (TB)
Kelvin Benjamin (AZ)
Alshon Jeffery (MIN)
Mike Gillislee (NE)
Michael Thomas (SEA)

Non PPR Standard


Not sure if it is too late, but you obviously have to start Cooper. I'd probably lean toward Kelvin, as those are some nasty match ups for your guys. If Jordan Reed is out, I might spot start Jamison Crowder if he is on the waiver wire, Cincy slot coverage is their weakness.


None of them went yesterday so I've still got to pick 3.

Currently leaning Cooper/Benjamin and then Gillislee in my flex. Jeffery would be a no-brainer in my flex if it weren't for Minnesota.


PFF start / sit column seems extra relevant to you this week

Start
Alshon Jeffery, WR, Bears (vs. Vikings)

Jeffery is another wide receiver who people are looking to bench this week due to the matchup. Unlike in Thomas’ case, Jeffery hasn’t been productive leading up to this daunting matchup. So why am I suggesting to play him anyway? Well, Jeffery’s fantasy value is tied almost entirely to Jay Cutler’s health. Unlike Brian Hoyer, who has displayed an obvious bias toward throwing to his right side — away from Jeffery — Cutler has no noted preference on what side of the field he throws to. Cutler doesn’t account for coverage or down or distance; he throws the ball up to Jeffery and gives him a chance to make the play.

In 2015, Jeffery led the NFL in targets per route run. He was targeted on over 32 percent of his total routes; only two other receivers finished with 30 percent or more. Cutler’s return should also lead to a boost in Jeffery’s average depth of target. He’s going to be utilized downfield again in jump-ball situations. He averaged more than 25 yards per catch in Cutler’s only healthy game this season. Jeffery has handled Vikings cornerback Xavier Rhodes in the past, and in reality, very few cornerbacks can match up with Jeffery when he’s running vertical routes and given a chance to make plays.


Michael Thomas, WR, Saints (vs. Seahawks)

Everyone seems like they’re going to be off of this matchup. Fantasy owners read the words “Seahawks defense” and immediately start thinking about how to replace players facing them. But this is not the 2015 version of the Seahawks, or the 2014 version, and it’s certainly not the 2013 version. After finishing with our No. 1, No. 1, and No. 4 pass rush overall from 2013 through 2015, respectively, the Seahawks have graded out as just our 15th-best pass rush in 2016. This is key for Drew Brees’ chances of moving the football through the air and it holds even more importance than the fact this game is being played in New Orleans — the place where fantasy dreams come true.

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The Seahawks’ pass defense is not as potent as it once was, but the scheme remains the same. Their defensive style is certainly successful, but it also leaves a lot of underneath routes open. The idea is to keep everything in front of the safeties. This places perfectly into Thomas’ new role on the offense. As of Week 8, I’m not sure any wide receiver — rookie or veteran — is running a better slant route than Thomas. The talented rookie has dipped below 56 receiving yards just once this season. He had 10 receptions for 130 yards on 13 targets last week. Over the past four weeks, Thomas has 26 receptions for 323 yards and 3 touchdowns. Keep him rolling even against the Seahawks.


Sit
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Panthers (vs. Cardinals)

The NFL is a game of matchups and Benjamin simply doesn’t have the speed to shake Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson. I expect Benjamin to see a lot of Peterson on the outside in this matchup. According to Jeff Ratcliffe’s Shadow Coverage Matrix, Peterson has already shadowed wide receivers in five games this season.

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Cam Newton loves to pepper Benjamin with targets, but he’s wise enough to know that avoiding Peterson gives the Panthers the best chance to win. We’ve seen Benjamin completely shut out of matchups before this season — he put up a goose egg when Vikings cornerback Xavier Rhodes shut him down earlier this season. Don’t let yourself fall for this trap. Peterson is the better player and I don’t expect Benjamin to top 50 yards receiving or score a touchdown.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#531 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:36 pm

Ok, so who are you guys stashing at the RB or WR position as this years' David Johnson. Who is the guy no one is paying attention to, who could win someone a fantasy championship?

Guy I would have said was Booker, but with the news CJ had surgery that is done. Robert Kelly was another, but with the news Matt Jones may not play he has been picked up everywhere.

So who should I be looking to make some room for that COULD provide big dividends later in the season? Some thoughts on guys that may be available;
Corey Coleman, looks like McCown might be back and he is practicing now
Abdullah - may come off IR?
Smallwood - thought hey seem to RBBC, but Mathews can't stay healthy
Tyler Lockette (doesn't seem quite healthy yet)

Watkins

Speaking to the media in Buffalo, head coach Rex Ryan was brought onto the subject of Sammy Watkins. Speaking about Watkins, Ryan revealed that the star wide receiver was out of his walking boot. However, he also stated that while Watkins was now walking on his own, his potential return to the team was still weeks away.


Kevin White (see a theme with IR guys?)

Bears GM Ryan Pace hopes White (broken fibula) can return from injured reserve in Week 13, WGN's Adam Hoge reports.
White last played in Week 4 and will have to spend a minimum of eight weeks on injured reserve before he's eligible to play. The Bears hope he'll be the one player to return from IR, but it may not be wise to rush a young player back for the closing stages of a non-competitive season. Cameron Meredith has stepped up in a big way since White was injured, catching 20 passes for 243 yards on 27 targets over the past two games.


Adrian Petersen? Maybe he comes back this year?

Peterson is eligible to come off the Injured Reserve list on Nov. 18, which means the absolute earliest he could dress for the Vikings would be Week 11 (Nov. 20) at home against the Arizona Cardinals. The Vikings will not rush him back, though (nor will Peterson want to rush back himself given his contract status).

“Once those guys go on the IR list, they’re dead cards for eight weeks, and then we just have to re-evaluate where we’re at, with all the guys,” Vikings GM Rick Spielman told TwinCities.com on Oct. 12. “Usually Adrian becomes strong as the season goes, and goes stronger as the games progress. So I look at it as he’s going to do everything he can to get back … That’s at least eight, nine weeks of not taking hits on that body, which is going to make him pretty fresh.”
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#532 » by Outlander » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:13 pm

Thomas Rawls, I am still not a believer in Michael.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#533 » by Profound23 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:00 pm

M-C-G wrote:Ok, so who are you guys stashing at the RB or WR position as this years' David Johnson. Who is the guy no one is paying attention to, who could win someone a fantasy championship?



David Johnson was a rookie who ran well when put in the game but was stuck behind a injury prone vet who was running a little bit above average on occasion.


I had David Johnson all year last year in both of my leagues because I saw it coming from a mile away. This year, I would say it's Derrick Henry. DeMarco isn't running as well as people think. He had a good game yesterday but the Jags defense gave up midway through the first quarter. He doesn't get yards after contact anymore but Henry does. He gets over 100 yards but needs 25-30 carries to get there. Heck, against Cleveland he had 21 carries for 65 yards and they are getting gashed by the run. Like AZ last year, the Titans line is built for running. Plus, we all know sooner or later DeMarco will go down. In fact, it may be this week because he came up lame last night and was limping the rest of the time they put him back in the game. No clue why you put DeMarco back in when up 27-0 after he hurt himself....but that are the type of moves that will assure Derrick Henry starts sooner rather than later and will become the man in the NFL.

I predict Murray will be out of Tennessee next year and Henry will be a top 5 back.



(In second is Devonate Booker...I also have him and am excited to see what he can do with a team that runs most of the time)

Other guys that may breakout: Paul Perkins, Kenneth Dixon

The problem with these guys is they play in systems where 3-4 running backs touch the ball and I stay away from those situations

The first time Perkins touched the ball in the NFL he had a 72 yard screen pass where he dodged defenders. After that, the Giants put in Darkwa to steal his TD. Well what do you think that does to a young players psyche? This is what the Lions did with Abdullah last year and he has never looked the same since. It's like these coaches need every other running back to get hurt before they finally roll the dice on their rookies. Remember in Arizona, not only was Chris Johnson hurt but Andre Ellington too. David Johnson was the 3rd back who wasn't going to play because Arians continued to say week after week rookie running backs don't work in his system. Luckily I was just as stubborn and held on to him the same way I hold on to Derrick Henry.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#534 » by Profound23 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:56 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Two weeks ago I had no backs except for Gurley who was doing jacksh**.

Now I have Ajayi, Booker, and if Murray is down for an extended period of time.....Derrick Henry.

Gurley may find himself on my bench when he comes off the bye week. Who would have thought?


Gurley is exactly like he was last year, minus those signature 50 plus yard plays he had. I never would have thought, and would have taken him probably number 3 in my draft. I've been holding Henry waiting all year for Demarco to get hurt as he always does, could be a monster down the stretch.



The biggest difference is not as much touches early in games. Last year he had the ball a lot in the first half, he would wear down the defense and by the second half break through for huge runs.

This year, Jeff Fisher, who wanted to draft Wentz is trying to prove a point in St. Louis and making Keenum the focal point of his offense. It would be funny to watch, if he wasn't ruining it for Gurley owners.

Also, yes Blake Bortles is terrible. However, he is good to have in fantasy football because every week they are getting blown out and he gets those garbage stats. Kind of like Stafford has been for a long time now.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#535 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:20 pm

Profound23 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Ok, so who are you guys stashing at the RB or WR position as this years' David Johnson. Who is the guy no one is paying attention to, who could win someone a fantasy championship?



David Johnson was a rookie who ran well when put in the game but was stuck behind a injury prone vet who was running a little bit above average on occasion.


I had David Johnson all year last year in both of my leagues because I saw it coming from a mile away. This year, I would say it's Derrick Henry. DeMarco isn't running as well as people think. He had a good game yesterday but the Jags defense gave up midway through the first quarter. He doesn't get yards after contact anymore but Henry does. He gets over 100 yards but needs 25-30 carries to get there. Heck, against Cleveland he had 21 carries for 65 yards and they are getting gashed by the run. Like AZ last year, the Titans line is built for running. Plus, we all know sooner or later DeMarco will go down. In fact, it may be this week because he came up lame last night and was limping the rest of the time they put him back in the game. No clue why you put DeMarco back in when up 27-0 after he hurt himself....but that are the type of moves that will assure Derrick Henry starts sooner rather than later and will become the man in the NFL.

I predict Murray will be out of Tennessee next year and Henry will be a top 5 back.



(In second is Devonate Booker...I also have him and am excited to see what he can do with a team that runs most of the time)

Other guys that may breakout: Paul Perkins, Kenneth Dixon

The problem with these guys is they play in systems where 3-4 running backs touch the ball and I stay away from those situations

The first time Perkins touched the ball in the NFL he had a 72 yard screen pass where he dodged defenders. After that, the Giants put in Darkwa to steal his TD. Well what do you think that does to a young players psyche? This is what the Lions did with Abdullah last year and he has never looked the same since. It's like these coaches need every other running back to get hurt before they finally roll the dice on their rookies. Remember in Arizona, not only was Chris Johnson hurt but Andre Ellington too. David Johnson was the 3rd back who wasn't going to play because Arians continued to say week after week rookie running backs don't work in his system. Luckily I was just as stubborn and held on to him the same way I hold on to Derrick Henry.


Henry looked fantastic last night. He would be a monster with 20 touches for fantasy.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#536 » by Profound23 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:01 pm

Yep....and just think we could have had him. Everyone wants to tell me how you don't draft a RB in the first round. These rules annoy me....take the best player.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#537 » by M-C-G » Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:13 pm

Profound23 wrote:Yep....and just think we could have had him. Everyone wants to tell me how you don't draft a RB in the first round. These rules annoy me....take the best player.


Personally, with the devaluation of the RB position, I would use a 2nd round pick every 3 years and churn new blood through the position. RB is the best return on talent that you get in the draft these days.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#538 » by Gianstoppable » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:07 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Gianstoppable wrote:My team has scored 863 points, 1st in my league

My team has also given up 926 points, also 1st in the league

2-5 :(

Doesnt help that I traded Jeremy Hill and Yeldon for Allen Robinson and hes been garbage since I got him.

Oh BTW, David Johnson at #8 is probably my best late 1st round pick ever, that dude can play.


Time to fire your defensive coordinator man. Watching the jags last night, I couldn't believe how bad Bortles looks, as it was the first time I saw him play this year. Somehow he still put up over 300 yards, but he has ZERO chemistry with his WR, like none


The Jags offense is a huge disappointment after how they looked last year. Bortles has the makeup to be a damn good QB, maybe he has the Jay Cutler effect and cant keep his teammates happy.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#539 » by RiotPunch » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:48 pm

Of course my dumbass dropped Bortles for Alex Smith this week. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

EDIT: Also going against Cousins/Reed/CAR. I hate my life.
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Post#540 » by RiotPunch » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:03 pm

I need Davante/Dez/Zeke/Asiata to freaking explode if I'm gonna have a chance this week.
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