Packers News, Transactions, Trade Talk - Watson 1 Year Extension Through 2026

[MickeyDavis]

Packers at Broncos week 15

[humanrefutation]

Packers need to resolve the EJ situation, but I don't see EJ's stance as a legit concern, tbh. I understand his concern about the money difference between centers and guards, but I would point out that his market value will not be tied solely to the position he's playing, but rather what positions he could play. The Packers could move him to center and he'd be one of the highest paid centers in the league on his current deal. When it's contract extension time, he isn't tied to the market value for centers. He's tied to the market value for All-Pro guards at the very least, which is what another team would pay him to lure him away.

[HKPackFan]

Why is the nfl slowly dripping out the schedule?

I don't think that's creating excitement. It's about as fun as watching paint dry.

[MVP2110]

Why is the nfl slowly dripping out the schedule?

I don't think that's creating excitement. It's about as fun as watching paint dry.

They don't. The NFL gives it to teams the day of or day before the release and it gets leaked out from there

[ReasonablySober]

It's so incredibly stupid. The dumbest possible thing the NFL does.

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Packers not on TNF in week 5

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[ReasonablySober]

Jenkins is going into year three of a four year extension. GTFOH with renegotiating now.

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[Treebeard]

With that Cap crunch coming up next year, how likely/unlikely are the Packers pursuing Hendrickson, who wants his own bump?

[MickeyDavis]

With that Cap crunch coming up next year, how likely/unlikely are the Packers pursuing Hendrickson, who wants his own bump?

Unlikely. I wasn't aware of the cap situation when I promoted the trade. We'll have our hands full with our own guys.

[MoMM]

How much is two snaps worth to an NFL player? For Green Bay Packers guard Sean Rhyan, it's more than $2 million.

Had he been on the field for two additional plays at any point in his first three NFL seasons (2022-24), Rhyan would have qualified for the proven performance escalator. That would have meant his 2025 base salary would have jumped to $3.406 million rather than the $1,363,571 he will earn under his original rookie deal.

That's a difference of $2,042,429 -- all because he came up two snaps short of hitting the 35% mark called for in Article 7, Section 4 of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement.

It states that if a player selected in Rounds 3-7 (Rhyan was a third-round pick in 2022) "participated in a minimum of 35% of his Club's offensive or defensive plays in any two of his first three regular season or participated in a 'cumulative average' of at least 35% of his Club's offensive or defensive plays over his first three regular seasons" then he would qualify for the raise, which is essentially equal to what a restricted free agent tender would be the upcoming season. Here's how Rhyan missed out:

• In his rookie season, he appeared in only one game but did not play a single snap on offense. He played one snap of special teams, which is not used in the calculation. According to data from the NFL Players Association and the league, which are used to calculate the percentages, the Packers had 1,094 offensive plays.

• In 2023, he played 183 snaps combined at right guard and left guard in a backup role out a possible 1,096 plays (16.7%).

• Last season, when he became a starter for the first time, he played 961 of a possible 1,082 offensive snaps (88.8%). During the first half of the season, Ryan split snaps with 2024 first-round pick Jordan Morgan. However, after Morgan was lost for the season due to a shoulder injury following Week 9, Rhyan played full time -- except for eight snaps in the second quarter of the Week 14 game at Detroit. He left the game after a collision with Detroit Lions linebacker Kwon Alexander but returned to finish the game.

• In all, it meant Ryan played in 1,144 of a possible 3,272 offensive snaps for the Packers over the past three seasons -- or 34.952% of the plays from 2022-24. At least he didn't miss by one snap. An additional play would have only gotten Ryan to 34.983%.

Rhyan's agent, Cameron Foster, said he believed Ryan had reached the 35% mark because of published snap counts online. For example, according to Pro Football Reference's snap counts, which are unofficial and not used by the NFL or the NFLPA, Rhyan would have qualified. Its count had Rhyan playing 1,146 of a possible 3,272 snaps (35.003%).

"[We had] him at 35% of snaps exactly," Foster told ESPN. "However, the NFL and NFLPA both had him just under. So, per the Packers they are not giving him the escalator. We are pretty disappointed about it for sure."

A source with knowledge of NFL contracts said some contracts contain specific language about not rounding up when it comes to statistical marks for incentives or escalators. The Packers couldn't just give Rhyan the raise even if they wanted to. They would have to extend his contract in order to change his 2025 pay, which also would have salary cap implications and also could impact future extensions should they decide to retain him behind this season.

Rhyan's original rookie contract was a four-year, $5.12 million deal that included a $905,712 signing bonus. However, he lost out on $235,000 of his base salary as a rookie because he was suspended for six games after being found in violation of the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing substances.

In March, Rhyan was awarded an additional $697,006 in additional compensation through the NFL's performance-based pay program. That was the third-highest payout on the team behind left tackle Rasheed Walker's $925,612 and right tackle Zach Tom's $849,141. Each team had a pool of $14.128 million that is distributed based on playing time and salary levels. It rewards players with lower salaries who play significant roles on the team.

Rhyan is expected to compete for a starting job again this season at right guard. He could face competition from Morgan, who also is expected to battle Walker at left tackle.

they should make it more clear that this wasn't the Packers screwing him. He only missed snaps when he was injured and it's not like the Packers ever sat him. in the spirit of the contract, he honestly didn't deserve it albeit extremely close to earning it. it sucks but I don't feel like this more than a tough breaks situation that happens all the time in sports.

Had he allowed 1 less pressure or sack, he probably would get the bonus, so it's on him. Let's not act like 35% is a huge number, it's way less than half of the snaps.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Had he allowed 1 less pressure or sack, he probably would get the bonus, so it's on him. Let's not act like 35% is a huge number, it's way less than half of the snaps.

Yeah, that is where I am at. It wasn't like he was stuck behind an all-pro. He only got that many snaps due to injuries in the first place. It's closer to someone studying hard by barely missing the passing grade by a percentage point. It sucks, but not something that is unfair.

[humanrefutation]

I don't think we need to justify the Packers position re: Rhyan. It's a simple one. By both the NFL and NFLPA's metric, Rhyan didn't earn the bonus. It doesn't matter if he was one snap short or a hundred snaps short. He didn't earn it, and the Packers can't pay it even if they wanted to unless they redo his deal and accept the various cap implications

It sucks, but we get stories like this all the time.

[RRyder823]

With that Cap crunch coming up next year, how likely/unlikely are the Packers pursuing Hendrickson, who wants his own bump?

Unlikely. I wasn't aware of the cap situation when I promoted the trade. We'll have our hands full with our own guys.

It's not that bad depending on who they let walk.

Like if you want them to extend Reed next year, Resign at least one of Watson/Doubs and bring back both Walker and Tom then yes the cap crunch is very real.

If they just extend Tom and only extend one of those 3 WRs then Hendrickson could could fairly easily be worked in. (at least as easily as a 35 mill per contract can be)

And since im only really worried about Tom out of that group of players im all for a Hendrickson deal. Bigger issue would actually be fitting him in under this years cap

I say trade for Hendrickson. Let the draft picks they have in the wings take over next year, sit next year out of FA and collect a bunch of comp picks, use the comp picks to help replenish

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[MVP2110]

Packers @ Browns week 3
Packers @ Cowboys week 4

Packers vs Bengals week 6

Missing still the home Bears game, the Ravens, at Pittsburgh, at Arizona, and the bye

[MVP2110]

Packers @ Steelers week 8 on SNF

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Full schedule

Week 1- vs Lions
Week 2- vs Commanders(TNF)
Week 3- @ Browns
Week 4- @ Cowboys(SNF)
Week 5- Bye
Week 6- vs Bengals
Week 7- @ Cardinals
Week 8- @ Steelers(SNF)
Week 9- vs Panthers
Week 10- vs Eagles(MNF)
Week 11- @ Giants
Week 12- vs Vikings
Week 13- @ Lions(Thanksgiving)
Week 14- vs Bears
Week 15- @ Broncos
Week 16- @ Bears(Saturday)
Week 17- vs Ravens
Week 18- at Vikings

[MickeyDavis]

Not a fan of the early bye