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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#561 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:03 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:Interesting breakdown and ranking of the top edge rushers in the class.

1 - Jermaine Johnson II, Florida State
2 - Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon
3 - Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan
4 - Travon Walker, Georgia
5 - Joshua Paschal, Kentucky
6 - Boye Mafe, Minnesota
7 - David Ojabo, Michigan
8 - George Karlaftis, Purdue
9 - Nik Bonitto, Oklahoma
10 - Arnold Ebiketie, Penn State
11 - Drake Jackson, USC
12 - Cameron Thomas, San Diego State

Ridiculous depth in this class.

How is Enagbare not on that list?


Maybe he's #13.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#562 » by TroyD92 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:43 am

If they go Wyatt in the first round any chance we see a Kenny-Slaton-Wyatt front?
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#563 » by DrWood » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:26 am

In today's mock, no players were falling to me, so I kept trading back (and burning my late round picks), accumulating 15 picks between #53 and #98. I probably picked too many WR, but I guarantee at least 2 will do well. Of course, there's no way to make so many trades during the draft, but it shows how you can get more value by trading down whenever there isn't someone you covet at that pick.
#53 Logan Hall, DT Houston
#56 Christian Watson, WR ND State.
#57 Kingsley Enagbare, EDGE, South Car.
#59 Troy Anderson, LB, Montana St.
#60 Jalen Tolbert, WR, S. Ala.
#62 Trey McBride, TE, Colo. St.
#65 Darrian Kinnard, G/T, Kentucky
#74 Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati.
#82 John Metchie, WR, ALA.
#83 Max Mitchell, OT, Louisiana
#89 Tariq Woolen, CB UTSA
#91 Brian Cook, S, Cincinnati.
#92 Calvin Austin III, WR, Memphis.
#96 Luke Fortner, C/G, Kentucky
#98 Sam Williams, EDGE, Mississippi.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#564 » by Matches Malone » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:45 pm

Lance Zierlein Latest Mock:

#22 Jordan Davis
Green Bay needs a receiver, but the Packers won't reach for one if they see a better player on their board. Davis has rare traits, and his best football may be in front of him.

#28 Christian Watson
Doesn't Watson just feel like a Packer? He's a little raw but ridiculously athletic, with the type of size (6-5, 208) that Aaron Rodgers seems to do well with vertically.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#565 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:00 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Lance Zierlein Latest Mock:

#22 Jordan Davis
Green Bay needs a receiver, but the Packers won't reach for one if they see a better player on their board. Davis has rare traits, and his best football may be in front of him.

#28 Christian Watson
Doesn't Watson just feel like a Packer? He's a little raw but ridiculously athletic, with the type of size (6-5, 208) that Aaron Rodgers seems to do well with vertically.


If the choice is reaching for a WR or taking an elite defender, I'm taking Nakobe Dean and laughing my ass off that the rest of the NFL allowed this to happen.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#566 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:12 pm

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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#567 » by Treebeard » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:39 pm

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A few day one candidates and a bunch of day two, maybe day three guys? Good looking list, all the same.
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Post#568 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:53 pm

Yea, I think it's solid. I think my dream of Dean or Chenal could be dead.

I think it's interesting that outside of maybe Burks, there isn't anyone on that list that has been mocked ahead of where the Packers are picking. Like, there aren't any trade up candidates on that list.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#569 » by Profound23 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:56 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Lance Zierlein Latest Mock:

#22 Jordan Davis
Green Bay needs a receiver, but the Packers won't reach for one if they see a better player on their board. Davis has rare traits, and his best football may be in front of him.

#28 Christian Watson
Doesn't Watson just feel like a Packer? He's a little raw but ridiculously athletic, with the type of size (6-5, 208) that Aaron Rodgers seems to do well with vertically.


If the choice is reaching for a WR or taking an elite defender, I'm taking Nakobe Dean and laughing my ass off that the rest of the NFL allowed this to happen.



I am there with you.

Man, if we could get Jordan Davis and Nakobi Dean then use one of those seconds to get a WR like Pickens that would be sick. This defense would great.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#570 » by M-C-G » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:08 pm

TroyD92 wrote:If they go Wyatt in the first round any chance we see a Kenny-Slaton-Wyatt front?


I actually didn't know that Wyatt was as old as he is. Normally I don't care much, but I think he is already 24 might be 25 by the season, so after his rookie deal he is going to be pushing 30. That doesn't seem to fit the MO of our GM.

But with that said, I would love to see a 3 beast front like that, or substitute Wyatt with Davis or Travis Jones. Other than those three guys I am not sure if anyone really warrants a day 1 selection or frankly would even be ready to be a day 1 starter.


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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#571 » by Frank Nova » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:38 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Lance Zierlein Latest Mock:

#22 Jordan Davis
Green Bay needs a receiver, but the Packers won't reach for one if they see a better player on their board. Davis has rare traits, and his best football may be in front of him.

#28 Christian Watson
Doesn't Watson just feel like a Packer? He's a little raw but ridiculously athletic, with the type of size (6-5, 208) that Aaron Rodgers seems to do well with vertically.


If the choice is reaching for a WR or taking an elite defender, I'm taking Nakobe Dean and laughing my ass off that the rest of the NFL allowed this to happen.


Dean is a beast but couldn’t you theoretically do the same thing with Jordan Davis. In all reality he’s better than atleast some of the 21 dudes that would be drafted in front of him if he falls to 22. You could laugh at the rest of the league. Clark Reed Davis would absolutely dominate in a rotation… I’m just saying. Dean would be fantastic but I feel like you slighted Jordan Davis at 22 like it wouldn’t be an absolute steal.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#572 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:43 pm

Frank Nova wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Lance Zierlein Latest Mock:

#22 Jordan Davis

#28 Christian Watson


If the choice is reaching for a WR or taking an elite defender, I'm taking Nakobe Dean and laughing my ass off that the rest of the NFL allowed this to happen.


Dean is a beast but couldn’t you theoretically do the same thing with Jordan Davis. In all reality he’s better than atleast some of the 21 dudes that would be drafted in front of him if he falls to 22. You could laugh at the rest of the league. Clark Reed Davis would absolutely dominate in a rotation… I’m just saying. Dean would be fantastic but I feel like you slighted Jordan Davis at 22 like it wouldn’t be an absolute steal.


Oh, I meant take Davis at #22 and Dean at #28. That's literally my dream draft.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#573 » by Treebeard » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:46 pm

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I think it's interesting that outside of maybe Burks, there isn't anyone on that list that has been mocked ahead of where the Packers are picking. Like, there aren't any trade up candidates on that list.


I don't know that I'd read too much into that, though. For one thing, there's a ton more data out there on most of the top guys - both hard statistics, film, along with psychological stuff. Plus, who all did they talk with at the combine? Third, I'd guess they really don't want to go "Alex Lasry" and tip their hand at any specific interest up-draft.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#574 » by LikeABosh » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:47 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:(snip)
I think it's interesting that outside of maybe Burks, there isn't anyone on that list that has been mocked ahead of where the Packers are picking. Like, there aren't any trade up candidates on that list.


I don't know that I'd read too much into that, though. For one thing, there's a ton more data out there on most of the top guys - both hard statistics, film, along with psychological stuff. Plus, who all did they talk with at the combine? Third, I'd guess they really don't want to go "Alex Lasry" and tip their hand at any specific interest up-draft.


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That's data from 2012-2017. So yeah, I wouldn't rule out top candidates because of no visit
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#575 » by VooDoo7 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:59 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
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If the choice is reaching for a WR or taking an elite defender, I'm taking Nakobe Dean and laughing my ass off that the rest of the NFL allowed this to happen.


Dean is a beast but couldn’t you theoretically do the same thing with Jordan Davis. In all reality he’s better than atleast some of the 21 dudes that would be drafted in front of him if he falls to 22. You could laugh at the rest of the league. Clark Reed Davis would absolutely dominate in a rotation… I’m just saying. Dean would be fantastic but I feel like you slighted Jordan Davis at 22 like it wouldn’t be an absolute steal.


Oh, I meant take Davis at #22 and Dean at #28. That's literally my dream draft.

And with the 3rd pick, George Pickens. All 3 Bulldogs. Perfect match.

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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#576 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:34 pm

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Scanning that draft I feel like Myles Jack might have been the guy that had the buzz. But your point is certainly taken


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Yeah I remember people being super pissed they took Clark over Jack. I don't really like Bob McGinn but I remember listening to a podcast the day after the draft and he was really high on Kenny so hat tip there.

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-I wanted Jack or Jaylon Smith, but I didn't know Clark so I wasn't as mad once I did some research on him.
-The next year I was PISSED we took King over Reuben Foster/Watt....but I was more about Foster than Watt so I was wrong.
-The next year I wanted Jaire or Derwin James and was fine with either, loved the traded down, was also VERY high on Josh Jackson.
-The next year I wanted DK Metcalf and AJ Brown.....and as much as Gary, Savage, and Jenkins have done for this team....I believe if you add AJ Brown and DK to Davante this team wins at least one more Superbowl over the past couple of years, but even at the time I was fine with Savage/Jenkins and did not trust Gary at all.
-The next year I was fine with the Love pick but wanted Antoine Winfield or Queen, I loved the AJ Dillon pick in the 2nd
-Last year I wanted Samuel Jr. or Jevon Holland, but was excited about Stokes. I was actually more irritated we passed on Quinn Meinerz in the later rounds, but I understood there was a need for WR and we just drafted an interior offensive lineman.

So my team would probably have Reuben Foster (cut), Myles Jack (downgrade), Jaire, Josh Jackson (cut), DK Metcalf (taken way earlier than anyone else), AJ Brown, Jawaan Taylor, Antoine Winfield, Samuel Jr., Quinn Meinerz, AJ Dillon

Oline=small downgrade
Dline and passrush=HUGE downgrade, however we probably still have Z
secondary=small upgrade
WRs=huge upgrade

And right now everyone would be complaining we need a pass rush, while we have three pro bowl WRs. What this tells me most of all is to give up evaluating ILBs and stick to WRs/RBs/DBs
That Jack/Clark draft was about the time I stopped knowing much about the prospects coming in. Kids zapped my time/knowledge. I never know how to evaluate a guy like Jack who was projected top 10 but then has medicals that cause them to fall. At some point it's worth the risk but I never know when.

I remember being very out on Ruben Foster. I think the NFL brushes aside a lot of character issues for non QBs so when we actually hear about them I assume it's really bad and want no part until the very late rounds.

That was definitely peak ILB craze around here. I have to admit I was on the other side of that and I still think it's the least important position on D but Campbell's play this year was great and I was probably too anti ILB.

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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#577 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:01 am

I don't read much into who visited and who didn't. Lots of head fakes by teams leading up to the draft.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#578 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:43 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I don't read much into who visited and who didn't. Lots of head fakes by teams leading up to the draft.


I think for some clubs, you might you visit to determine if you are just going to remove a guy from your board entirely. Like, 'yep, he is as bad as they say'

But with that said, there are some pretty enticing players on that list.
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Post#579 » by Profound23 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:15 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
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Dean is a beast but couldn’t you theoretically do the same thing with Jordan Davis. In all reality he’s better than atleast some of the 21 dudes that would be drafted in front of him if he falls to 22. You could laugh at the rest of the league. Clark Reed Davis would absolutely dominate in a rotation… I’m just saying. Dean would be fantastic but I feel like you slighted Jordan Davis at 22 like it wouldn’t be an absolute steal.


Oh, I meant take Davis at #22 and Dean at #28. That's literally my dream draft.

And with the 3rd pick, George Pickens. All 3 Bulldogs. Perfect match.

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Sounds like Jameson Williams is going top ten, unless that is a smokescreen. If that happens, this would be my dream draft.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#580 » by DrWood » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:34 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:
Dean is a beast but couldn’t you theoretically do the same thing with Jordan Davis. In all reality he’s better than atleast some of the 21 dudes that would be drafted in front of him if he falls to 22. You could laugh at the rest of the league. Clark Reed Davis would absolutely dominate in a rotation… I’m just saying. Dean would be fantastic but I feel like you slighted Jordan Davis at 22 like it wouldn’t be an absolute steal.


Oh, I meant take Davis at #22 and Dean at #28. That's literally my dream draft.

And with the 3rd pick, George Pickens. All 3 Bulldogs. Perfect match.

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