2022 NFL Draft discussion

[DrWood]

Here's the mock for today. Off the bat I traded the #22 and #28 to the Jets for their two high 2nds, a 2023 second and other picks (most of which I traded again).
#35 Travis Jones DT Conn.
#48 Christian Watson WR NDS
#52 Leo Chenal LB WIS
#56 Trey McBrideTE Colo.St.
#61 Kingsley Enagbare EDGE S.Car.
#65 Nick Cross S Maryl.
#68 Alec Pierce WR CIN
#70 Marcus Jones CB HOU
#80 Darian Kinnard G/T Kent.
#84 Cole Strange G Chatt.
#107 Kellen Diesch T AZ St.
I would have liked to take another WR and CB late, but I went with three eventual (or immediate) starters on the OL. Marcus Jones seldom falls to a pick where I'll take him, so that was good.
Who wants me to run their draft?

[DrWood]

For as great as this WR class is supposed to be, every guy has legit concerns. Toss in GB's size and agility thresholds, and it makes it pretty difficult to forecast anything with any type of accuracy as far as how GB may rank these guys. Probably another under the radar guy ala Jennings or Nelson.

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

[Treebeard]

Here's the mock for today. Off the bat I traded the #22 and #28 to the Jets for their two high 2nds, a 2023 second and other picks (most of which I traded again).
#35 Travis Jones DT Conn.
#48 Christian Watson WR NDS
#52 Leo Chenal LB WIS
#56 Trey McBrideTE Colo.St.
#61 Kingsley Enagbare EDGE S.Car.
#65 Nick Cross S Maryl.
#68 Alec Pierce WR CIN
#70 Marcus Jones CB HOU
#80 Darian Kinnard G/T Kent.
#84 Cole Strange G Chatt.
#107 Kellen Diesch T AZ St.
I would have liked to take another WR and CB late, but I went with three eventual (or immediate) starters on the OL. Marcus Jones seldom falls to a pick where I'll take him, so that was good.
Who wants me to run their draft?

I like the list. That would be near ideal (IMO) for most years, though I think the fan base and probably the front office is hoping for some splashier WR at the top. However.... I'm thinking it's more likely this year to have an early round run on the best WR's. So, unless Gute trades up, Wilson, Williams, Olave, even the other first tier guys are gone.

Let's hope a couple of teams get QB fever and reach into the early first round for a Willis, Pickett, etal. Then maybe some of the best prospects for the Packers fall, as a by-product

[M-C-G]

For as great as this WR class is supposed to be, every guy has legit concerns. Toss in GB's size and agility thresholds, and it makes it pretty difficult to forecast anything with any type of accuracy as far as how GB may rank these guys. Probably another under the radar guy ala Jennings or Nelson.

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

Drake London is really the guy that makes the most sense if he is there. But I do feel like MLF wants a legit 4.3 guy on the roster.

[ReasonablySober]

For as great as this WR class is supposed to be, every guy has legit concerns. Toss in GB's size and agility thresholds, and it makes it pretty difficult to forecast anything with any type of accuracy as far as how GB may rank these guys. Probably another under the radar guy ala Jennings or Nelson.

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

Drake London is really the guy that makes the most sense if he is there. But I do feel like MLF wants a legit 4.3 guy on the roster.

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[ReasonablySober]

Just read ESPN's evaluation of Dean:

Dean is an off-ball linebacker with fast eyes and excellent play speed. He had 143 tackles, 7.5 sacks and two interceptions over the last two seasons. He's undersized with shorter arms but has a unique trait of working through blocks in a flash. He has a violent rip move and rarely allows bigger blockers to get under his pads. Dean closes in a flash and is a highly reliable tackler in space. He plays every down like it's the last of his career. No player we've studied on the Georgia defense has played more snaps in 2021 and yet he continuously shows an outstanding motor from down-to-down. One thing that jumps out on 2021 tape is his remarkable improvement as a pass-rusher. He shows elite instincts in terms of locating gaps in the offensive line to fire through the line of scrimmage. In coverage, Dean has high-end instincts. He has very good range in zone coverage. His game tape is a treat to study. Some teams will knock Dean's size, but he has more than proved capable of overcoming that limitation in the NFL. He outplays his good but elite physical traits due to an exceptional combination of instincts, versatility and relentlessness.

and it reminds me of how Ray Lewis could have been a Packer:

"Drew Rosenhaus, my first agent, said, 'Listen, I got inside information that the Dolphins are going to take you at 20,'" Ray Lewis told ESPN in 2018. "Then the 20th pick came and I sat there, and I’m waiting for the phone to ring. And the phone doesn’t ring."

Then, the Green Bay Packers told Lewis he was their choice at 27th overall. That is until the Ravens scooped him one one slot earlier. It was so surprising to Lewis, who didn't receive the call from Baltimore until he was already selected, that he didn't quite realize who he was speaking with.

"He did go, 'Who?' 'It’s Ozzie Newsome from Baltimore.' He was like, 'Really?'" Newsome told ESPN ahead of the 25-year anniversary of the 1996 draft. "I go, 'Yeah, we just selected you.' He goes, 'Who?' There was a little give-and-take there."

Davis and Dean would be this generation's Ngata and Lewis and I think the Packers could realistically make it happen.

[Matches Malone]

I'm all for going in on the Georgia pipeline.

Speaking of Georgia players, I think George Pickens might be my new favorite after that intial first grouping of WR's (Williams, Olave, Wilson, London). I'd consider him in the 1st round potentially.

[Profound23]

Just read ESPN's evaluation of Dean:

Dean is an off-ball linebacker with fast eyes and excellent play speed. He had 143 tackles, 7.5 sacks and two interceptions over the last two seasons. He's undersized with shorter arms but has a unique trait of working through blocks in a flash. He has a violent rip move and rarely allows bigger blockers to get under his pads. Dean closes in a flash and is a highly reliable tackler in space. He plays every down like it's the last of his career. No player we've studied on the Georgia defense has played more snaps in 2021 and yet he continuously shows an outstanding motor from down-to-down. One thing that jumps out on 2021 tape is his remarkable improvement as a pass-rusher. He shows elite instincts in terms of locating gaps in the offensive line to fire through the line of scrimmage. In coverage, Dean has high-end instincts. He has very good range in zone coverage. His game tape is a treat to study. Some teams will knock Dean's size, but he has more than proved capable of overcoming that limitation in the NFL. He outplays his good but elite physical traits due to an exceptional combination of instincts, versatility and relentlessness.

and it reminds me of how Ray Lewis could have been a Packer:

"Drew Rosenhaus, my first agent, said, 'Listen, I got inside information that the Dolphins are going to take you at 20,'" Ray Lewis told ESPN in 2018. "Then the 20th pick came and I sat there, and I’m waiting for the phone to ring. And the phone doesn’t ring."

Then, the Green Bay Packers told Lewis he was their choice at 27th overall. That is until the Ravens scooped him one one slot earlier. It was so surprising to Lewis, who didn't receive the call from Baltimore until he was already selected, that he didn't quite realize who he was speaking with.

"He did go, 'Who?' 'It’s Ozzie Newsome from Baltimore.' He was like, 'Really?'" Newsome told ESPN ahead of the 25-year anniversary of the 1996 draft. "I go, 'Yeah, we just selected you.' He goes, 'Who?' There was a little give-and-take there."

Davis and Dean would be this generation's Ngata and Lewis and I think the Packers could realistically make it happen.

That is what I am saying...and with Clark this defense becomes SOOOOO good if these two hit their potential.

I'm all for going in on the Georgia pipeline.

Speaking of Georgia players, I think George Pickens might be my new favorite after that intial first grouping of WR's (Williams, Olave, Wilson, London). I'd consider him in the 1st round potentially.

Jordan Davis-#22
Dean-#28
Pickens-#53

[ReasonablySober]

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Good draft guide here, only $7. Has some interesting rankings.

Has Pickens as his #2 WR, and I think there's been enough helium there to think he won't make it to #22.

[sdn40]

For as great as this WR class is supposed to be, every guy has legit concerns. Toss in GB's size and agility thresholds, and it makes it pretty difficult to forecast anything with any type of accuracy as far as how GB may rank these guys. Probably another under the radar guy ala Jennings or Nelson.

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

[LikeABosh]

I'm all for going in on the Georgia pipeline.

Speaking of Georgia players, I think George Pickens might be my new favorite after that intial first grouping of WR's (Williams, Olave, Wilson, London). I'd consider him in the 1st round potentially.

George Pickens in the 1st is my prediction actually

[ReasonablySober]

For as great as this WR class is supposed to be, every guy has legit concerns. Toss in GB's size and agility thresholds, and it makes it pretty difficult to forecast anything with any type of accuracy as far as how GB may rank these guys. Probably another under the radar guy ala Jennings or Nelson.

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Amari Rodgers, notable physical freak and RAS monster.

[ReasonablySober]

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[LikeABosh]

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Amari Rodgers, notable physical freak and RAS monster.

Slot receiver who weighs 212 lbs tho. I certainly wouldn't rule out Olave or Wilson, but if they're looking for a true X, I'd expect someone on the larger side

[WeekapaugGroove]

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Amari Rodgers, notable physical freak and RAS monster.

After going against their RAS love for the Amari pick last year and how that's turned out so far I expect them to be very leery of going down that road again.

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[sdn40]

Barring injury or selection by an idiot organization, the OSU WRs are about as sure of a thing as there is.

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Amari Rodgers, notable physical freak and RAS monster.

Not sure what you're saying - but Amari was not a physical freak or an RAS monster. Gute has stuck with high end RAS guys in the First Round. With regard to Olave and Wilson, Green Bay hasn't drafted a WR under 195 lbs IIRC.

[Daver]

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Amari Rodgers, notable physical freak and RAS monster.

Slot receiver who weighs 212 lbs tho. I certainly wouldn't rule out Olave or Wilson, but if they're looking for a true X, I'd expect someone on the larger side

Isnt the perfect X receiver either burks or that dude from alabama.I hear alot of burks to green bay.I do like that tall receiver from USC juat he isnt fast

[WeekapaugGroove]

Now personally I wouldn't have a problem with a little WR. I think it's good to have a mix of guys at that position and the pack probably have been too focused on big dudes. I just have my doubts that's what they want.

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[sdn40]

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/amari-rodgers

Everything about Amari's measurables match what was seen on the field - which was horrible. No twitch, explosion, or speed.

[ReasonablySober]

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Amari Rodgers, notable physical freak and RAS monster.

Not sure what you're saying - but Amari was not a physical freak or an RAS monster. Gute has stuck with high end RAS guys in the First Round. With regard to Olave and Wilson, Green Bay hasn't drafted a WR under 195 lbs IIRC.

Your sarcasm detector is busted.