2020 Draft Thread

Turk Nowitzki · Post #661 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:34 pm

I'm hoping one of the top tier WRs slips enough (late teens/early 20's where Gutey will make a move up. Or just sit at 30 and take one if they have someone in mind. I'd like to try actually giving Aaron Rodgers some weapons for once apart from Davante.

M-C-G · Post #662 » by **M-C-G** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:35 pm

Realistic
Queen
Reagor
Jefferson
Aiyuk

Pipedream
QB falls and teams are trying to get ahead of Cinci (if they trade out of 1 and don't get QB), Indy or Detroit in the top of the second and are willing to overpay for the privilege. Dropping 5-7 spots and netting an early third in return.

sdn40 · Post #663 » by **sdn40** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:51 pm

As this thing plays out, I don't think anyone really wants to take Tua or Herbert that high, much less trade up for them. The pressure to get a guy is so great, but neither of these guys hold a candle to some of the franchise QB's that have been taken

mkegb · Post #664 » by **mkegb** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:18 pm

Realistic:
Queen
Murray
Jefferson
Aiyuk
Mims

Pipe Dream:
Lamb

emunney · Post #665 » by **emunney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:39 pm

I'm an idiot but every time I've watched the Badgers I've felt like I'm watching a HoF RB in Taylor. I feel like he's overlooked because he's so screaming in your face obvious. Nuts production, nuts combine numbers. A 1.46s 10 yard split at 229 lbs is absolutely insane. I would be scared to pass on him.

Profound23 · Post #666 » by **Profound23** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:42 pm

Daver wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Fins trying to trade all three of their 2020 firsts for Burrow supposedly...that would be interesting

Will give you rogers for all 3.......wont we?

Easily

Profound23 · Post #667 » by **Profound23** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:44 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Daver wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Fins trying to trade all three of their 2020 firsts for Burrow supposedly...that would be interesting

Will give you rogers for all 3.......wont we?

I thought I read that they were trying to package to get 3 along with 5, which leads me to believe Cinci said, maybe if you had two top 5 picks we would do the deal.

Which is possible but basically that would be their entire draft and probably a first next year. If I'm Cincy just give me that and I'm good.....but I don't believe in Burrow.

Frank Nova · Post #668 » by **Frank Nova** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:49 pm

Realistic
Swift
Queen
Mims
Reagor

Pipe dream
Simmons

Post #669 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:59 pm

Read on Twitter

Mags FTW · Post #670 » by **Mags FTW** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:01 pm

Looking forward to seeing a draft without a bunch of soft cornball interviews after a guy walks off the stage, retired players fumbling through reading the card, obligatory shots of fans clapping for their team taking a guard they never heard of, etc.

Post #671 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:02 pm

emunney wrote:I'm an idiot but every time I've watched the Badgers I've felt like I'm watching a HoF RB in Taylor. I feel like he's overlooked because he's so screaming in your face obvious. Nuts production, nuts combine numbers. A 1.46s 10 yard split at 229 lbs is absolutely insane. I would be scared to pass on him.

With a little passing game work I think he can be just as good as Barkley.

Post #672 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:03 pm

sdn40 wrote:As this thing plays out, I don't think anyone really wants to take Tua or Herbert that high, much less trade up for them. The pressure to get a guy is so great, but neither of these guys hold a candle to some of the franchise QB's that have been taken

Tua's as good a prospect as we've seen in years.

sdn40 · Post #673 » by **sdn40** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:10 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
sdn40 wrote:As this thing plays out, I don't think anyone really wants to take Tua or Herbert that high, much less trade up for them. The pressure to get a guy is so great, but neither of these guys hold a candle to some of the franchise QB's that have been taken

Tua's as good a prospect as we've seen in years.

I couldn't disagree more. Not gonna take away how he's viewed as a college QB. As a pro ? Not buying it. I know you're a fan so not gonna argue to change your mind, but the streets are littered with great college QB's that didn't transfer.

emunney · Post #674 » by **emunney** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:13 pm

sdn40 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
sdn40 wrote:As this thing plays out, I don't think anyone really wants to take Tua or Herbert that high, much less trade up for them. The pressure to get a guy is so great, but neither of these guys hold a candle to some of the franchise QB's that have been taken

Tua's as good a prospect as we've seen in years.

I couldn't disagree more. Not gonna take away how he's viewed as a college QB. As a pro ? Not buying it. I know you're a fan so not gonna argue to change your mind, but the streets are littered with great college QB's that didn't transfer.

What is it about him that you don't like?

RiotPunch · Post #675 » by **RiotPunch** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 pm

Realistic:
Michael Pittman Jr.
Brandon Aiyuk
Jalen Reagor
Ross Blacklock

Pipe dream:
Jerry Jeudy

sdn40 · Post #676 » by **sdn40** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:36 pm

emunney wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Tua's as good a prospect as we've seen in years.

I couldn't disagree more. Not gonna take away how he's viewed as a college QB. As a pro ? Not buying it. I know you're a fan so not gonna argue to change your mind, but the streets are littered with great college QB's that didn't transfer.

What is it about him that you don't like?

It all starts with his size. I'm not taking a QB that's 6 foot nothing. What does that lead to ? The necessity to be able to move in the pocket. Dude gets caught an awful lot for having the best college talent around him. Result. Two ankle surgeries, hip fracture, concussions and a partridge in a pear tree. A former GM really hit the nail on the head saying something to the effect that he's nowhere near as athletic as he thinks he is. Think about that for a second, because it makes a lot of sense. If he can't stay healthy at Alabama, God help him on a 4-12 NFL team where he has to carry the franchise without the best WR's and OL's. Some question his poise in the pocket (again we are talking Alabama talent here). What is that gonna look like behind Miami's OL ?? What is Tua's elite skillset ?? He doesn't have one. GM's are starting to ignore things based on "bringing the college offense to the NFL" fad and it's gonna get them fired. Manziel, Mayfield, Murray, now Tua.
Yea yea Drew Brees and Russell Wilson. If that's all you got that's a pretty short list over 100 years.

Wizardofwisc · Post #677 » by **Wizardofwisc** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:49 pm

sdn40 wrote:
emunney wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
I couldn't disagree more. Not gonna take away how he's viewed as a college QB. As a pro ? Not buying it. I know you're a fan so not gonna argue to change your mind, but the streets are littered with great college QB's that didn't transfer.

What is it about him that you don't like?

It all starts with his size. I'm not taking a QB that's 6 foot nothing. What does that lead to ? The necessity to be able to move in the pocket. Dude gets caught an awful lot for having the best college talent around him. Result. Two ankle surgeries, hip fracture, concussions and a partridge in a pear tree. A former GM really hit the nail on the head saying something to the effect that he's nowhere near as athletic as he thinks he is. Think about that for a second, because it makes a lot of sense. If he can't stay healthy at Alabama, God help him on a 4-12 NFL team where he has to carry the franchise without the best WR's and OL's. Yea yea Drew Brees and Russell Wilson. If that's all you got that's a pretty short list over 100 years.

sdn40, I agree with you on a lot of what you have to say around Tua. I think for me, the biggest issue I have with him as a prospect, is he was putting up good, not great numbers with two top 20 receivers. With other NFL receivers that will be coming out in later years. He had so much talent around him, its hard to gauge if he is truly legit or not.

M-C-G · Post #678 » by **M-C-G** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:55 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
emunney wrote:I'm an idiot but every time I've watched the Badgers I've felt like I'm watching a HoF RB in Taylor. I feel like he's overlooked because he's so screaming in your face obvious. Nuts production, nuts combine numbers. A 1.46s 10 yard split at 229 lbs is absolutely insane. I would be scared to pass on him.

With a little passing game work I think he can be just as good as Barkley.

I mentioned it earlier, but some analyst that was on the FAN and at the combine, they asked him the most surprising thing from the week, his answer was that he thought Taylor looked the most natural catching the ball of all the RBs he saw.

I was a bit surprised by that.

RRyder823 · Post #679 » by **RRyder823** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:01 pm

sdn40 wrote:
emunney wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
I couldn't disagree more. Not gonna take away how he's viewed as a college QB. As a pro ? Not buying it. I know you're a fan so not gonna argue to change your mind, but the streets are littered with great college QB's that didn't transfer.

What is it about him that you don't like?

It all starts with his size. I'm not taking a QB that's 6 foot nothing. What does that lead to ? The necessity to be able to move in the pocket. Dude gets caught an awful lot for having the best college talent around him. Result. Two ankle surgeries, hip fracture, concussions and a partridge in a pear tree. A former GM really hit the nail on the head saying something to the effect that he's nowhere near as athletic as he thinks he is. Think about that for a second, because it makes a lot of sense. If he can't stay healthy at Alabama, God help him on a 4-12 NFL team where he has to carry the franchise without the best WR's and OL's. Some question his poise in the pocket (again we are talking Alabama talent here). What is that gonna look like behind Miami's OL ?? What is Tua's elite skillset ?? He doesn't have one.
Yea yea Drew Brees and Russell Wilson. If that's all you got that's a pretty short list over 100 years.

Sure thats all of them...... Outside of Fran Tarkenton, Doug Flutie, Sonny Jorgensen, Len Dawson, Joe Theismann and Micheal Vick while not mentioning Murray had a pretty good rookie showing for Arizona.....

I'm not even one to say height or other measurables don't matter. But this is akin to saying you wouldn't have drafted Larry Fitzgerald because he ran a 4.63 40 and most WRs that run that kind of 40 aren't going to be game breakers

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DigitalFool · Post #680 » by **DigitalFool** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:02 pm

I really don't want a QB early (1-3 rounds) in the draft. Thinking positively of Rodgers health and ability, he's signed through age 39 which would put his contract inline with any rookie QB contract drafted this season. I think next year is a better opportunity to grab a QB (talent pool notwithstanding) early. I'd like to see OT/LB/WR in rounds 1-3 in any order. Trade back and accumulate more pick isn't a bad option other than anticipating a pick all night only for it to be traded and wait for the next night (totally a Packer thing, just like commercials while on the clock)