2022 NFL Draft discussion

[DrWood]

And neither meet GB's threshold for weight / body type.

Olave's 6'

When's the last time the Packers drafted a 6'0" 180 lb WR? Here's a hint.

You know they picked a 5'9" WR as recently as last season, right?

[ReasonablySober]

Olave's 6'

When's the last time the Packers drafted a 6'0" 180 lb WR? Here's a hint.

You know they picked a 5'9" WR as recently as last season, right?

He was over 20 lbs bigger. Are we just adding lbs to this stupid discussion? Can't add an inch or two?

[MikeIsGood]

When's the last time the Packers drafted a 6'0" 180 lb WR? Here's a hint.

You know they picked a 5'9" WR as recently as last season, right?

He was over 20 lbs bigger. Are we just adding lbs to this stupid discussion? Can't add an inch or two?

DD was 6', and weighed 172 when he got to GB according to him.

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ex-green-bay-packers-wr-donald-driver-ate-like-a-maniac-during-playing-career

ETA: Olave definitely does not top my list, but I don't think 6' 187 blacklists him.

[LittleRooster]

I’d love a trade up to grab London. I’d also like Bell in round 2-3


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[sdn40]

Olave's 6'

And 150 lbs - and zero YAC - won't block - and is scared of catching balls over the middle

obviously none of those things are true.

LOL - Let me know if you want 20 links citing any of my other things that aren't true.
Such as "hears footsteps in traffic" "drops dramatically increase in traffic" Or simply do your homework as I have.

[ReasonablySober]

...where is he listed at 150 lbs with zero YAC? I'm not seeing that on the chart.

[sdn40]

...where is he listed at 150 lbs with zero YAC? I'm not seeing that on the chart.

Yards after contact per reception = 1
Is the chart hard to read ?
Do you think that will increase in the NFL ??

Here you go
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/the-problem-with-chris-olave/

[ReasonablySober]

...where is he listed at 150 lbs with zero YAC? I'm not seeing that on the chart.

Yards after contact per reception = 1
Is the chart hard to read ?
Do you think that will increase in the NFL ??

Here you go
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/the-problem-with-chris-olave/

I dunno man you seem to be the one with reading issues.

From your own link:

Using Approximate Value to estimate a player’s career success, I found that the connection between college YAC and NFL value is marginal. Separating by round produces even flimsier results.

Chris Olave creates separation at a high level, and that’s ultimately the most important skill for an NFL receiver to have. He will most likely never be a great YAC threat, but there are many other ways he adds value to an offense.

[sdn40]

...where is he listed at 150 lbs with zero YAC? I'm not seeing that on the chart.

Yards after contact per reception = 1
Is the chart hard to read ?
Do you think that will increase in the NFL ??

Here you go
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/the-problem-with-chris-olave/

I dunno man you seem to be the one with reading issues.

From your own link:

Using Approximate Value to estimate a player’s career success, I found that the connection between college YAC and NFL value is marginal. Separating by round produces even flimsier results.

Chris Olave creates separation at a high level, and that’s ultimately the most important skill for an NFL receiver to have. He will most likely never be a great YAC threat, but there are many other ways he adds value to an offense.

I read the part about not being a YAC threat just fine. Did you ?? And it goes along with pretty much every draft profile written on the guy.

[ReasonablySober]

Just gonna leave this here. I know you said you did your research but color me skeptical.

Watch on YouTube

[ReasonablySober]

Chris Olave's biggest problem is he's great at working the sidelines, catching balls in the endzone, and making tough grabs over the middle when he's about to get nailed.

[Profound23]

can he get open?

I feel Bell and London are similar, of course London is taller so that helps. I question if either can get open in the NFL, but it's worth a shot if you can get them at the right spot.

My track record with WRs in the draft have been so good, I will be mad if we pass on those guys.

If London fell to #22, you have to take him (barring some other inexplicable huge drop), even though I'm not as high on him as most.

Taking Bell before the 4th round would be a reach. I can imagine him getting picked in the third if there is a rush on WRs earlier. But if so, it means you missed better players earlier. Of course it only takes one GM that loves a guy for him to get drafted.

This was taken out of context.

I didn't mean those guys as in Drake or Bell.

The guys that I really don't want to miss out on if possible is Jameson Williams or Pickens. I like the prospect of Drake if he falls to 22 as well, but would not be pissed if we passed on him.

[sdn40]

And I'll leave it right here as this best sums up what I've gathered about his physicality and bullet points the Packers regard highly - not to mention his weight not meeting the longstanding threshold. Note yet another YAC comment.

Olave’s game lacks physicality, presenting problems for his NFL Draft stock. He doesn’t demonstrate a physicality in downfield blocking. Although that might not sound like a massive problem, it can separate a good receiver from a great one. And that could prove to be a difference-maker for an NFL team on draft night.

Olave’s lack of physicality also shows in contested-catch situations. There are examples of him winning on occasion, but that is inconsistent. Olave’s not a player you want to have to face a high percentage of 50/50 balls at the next level.

Finally, while Olave presents a dangerous downfield option, his after-the-catch value comes only if he can catch the ball in stride and use his speed to pull away from a more sluggish opponent. He doesn’t routinely create yardage for himself with an array of jukes and cuts like some of his contemporaries in the class. Again, a lack of physicality means he isn’t going to routinely grind out yardage after contact.

[VooDoo7]

...where is he listed at 150 lbs with zero YAC? I'm not seeing that on the chart.

Yards after contact per reception = 1
Is the chart hard to read ?
Do you think that will increase in the NFL ??

Here you go
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/the-problem-with-chris-olave/

Do you not know that YAC means Yards After Catch? Not Yards After Contact.

[jakecronus8]

Keep arguing about Olave. I’ll be over here watching Christian Watson explode into the second level on jet sweeps.

[ReasonablySober]

Yea, Watson might be great but unless he's there with our 4th pick I'm not risking it.

[DrWood]

Chris Olave's biggest problem is he's great at working the sidelines, catching balls in the endzone, and making tough grabs over the middle when he's about to get nailed.

I just thought of something. A receiver has zero YAC on a TD to the end zone. Olave caught too many TDs.

[DrWood]

Yea, Watson might be great but unless he's there with our 4th pick I'm not risking it.

I'd definitely take him at #53 or later, depending I what I picked earlier.

[DrWood]

Today's Mock. Traded down because that's what I do, MFers!
50. Christian Watson, WR NDS
52. Leo Chenal, LB WIS
53. Logan Hall, DT HOUS
62. Kingsley Enagbare, EDGE S.C.
63. Nick Cross, S Maryland
68. Alec Pierce, WR CIN
69. Jamaree Salyer, G/T GA
71. Marcus Jones, CB HOUS
73. Greg Dulcich, TE UCLA
80. Darian Kinnard, G/T Kent.
84. Brian Asamoah, LB OKL
88. Cole Strange, G Chatt.
89. Romeo Doubs, WR Nevada
107. Sam Williams, EDGE MISS.
148. Pierre Strong, HB S.D.St.

[LikeABosh]

Yea, Watson might be great but unless he's there with our 4th pick I'm not risking it.

I'd definitely take him at #53 or later, depending I what I picked earlier.

As long as he's not the first receiver we take, I'd be fine with him at #53. I'm all for looking for a home run with so many extra picks