ReasonablySober wrote:MVP2110 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Love really does need to finish strong. After two monster games against Detroit and KC he came back down to Earth the last two weeks.
I honestly don't understand how you change narratives so much between Love & Walker. Against NYG he was basically average and against TB he was above average according to all sorts of different metrics like EPA, CPOE, Passer Rating, PFF, etc so if those are considered bad games for Love then that's a pretty darn good baseline. We have season long metrics that include his early season struggles like DVOA, EPA, QBR, & PFF that all grade him above average this year(he falls anywhere 9th to 14th on those metrics for the season as a whole). The one area Love doesn't grade out as well in on the season is accuracy as he's 20th in CPOE and 17th in passer rating for the year. But for Walker you are seemingly propping up his 2nd half while throwing out his 1st half struggles but if you do the same for Love then Love would be a top 5 QB by nearly every 2nd half metric including CPOE(or even raw completion % if you don't like CPOE for whatever reason). Add in the inconsistency about which metrics you tend to believe and that adds to my confusion. Love grades out better than Walker on the season as a whole and in the 2nd half but somehow you think Walker should keep us from drafting a LT in R1 but Love you remain extremely skeptical on. I don't mean to be rude but I'm trying to understand your thought process on these two and how it differs so drastically. Imo Packer fans should be really optimistic on both but I don't really see a world in where Walker has been better than Love this year
What I'm doing with Walker is at least somewhat tongue in cheek. I'm sorry if that wasn't more clear.
But overall I see them similarly, I guess. Both first year starters I'd be comfortable with going into next season.
But I am a little harsher on Love because the mistakes he's making are of the basic variety. Even your stats above are telling you that he's having trouble completing the passes he should.
The other reason I'm harsher is he's the quarterback, and if there's one position where I want to see elite play on a consistent basis, it's that one. Burrow, Jackson, Allen, and Tua all took leaps early in their careers, and next season I'll want to see it from Love.
That's fair. I find it completely fair to look at the season as a whole on players, you can't erase their bad games or their good games. It's fair to expect a jump from Jordan Love and other young players next year as well. But I also think if you had told most people before the season that Love would be in that 9-14 range by most respected metrics, and his areas of weakness(accuracy, deep balls) would show drastic improvement in the 2nd half of the season over the 1st half I'd think most fans would be really happy about that. No QB is ever going to play at the level Jordan Love did against Detroit & KC every game, every QB has bad games and misses throws from time to time. But if Jordan Love can get to the point where his "bad games" are still relatively decent compared to the rest of the NFL then we've really got something. There is certainly things to be improved on but overall I think Love has exceeded most expectations for what people said they wanted to see before the season started.
