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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#701 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 7, 2022 5:08 pm

With the deadline for tagging Adams tomorrow, I feel like we should get some clarity on what the Packers are doing in the next 24 hours.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#702 » by VooDoo7 » Mon Mar 7, 2022 5:36 pm

I'm torn on what I want the Packers to do. Obviously Rodgers staying gives us a shot at a SB within the next few years. And him being with one team his whole career would be pretty cool. On the other hand, if they don't win it all, he eventually leaves/retires and we have nothing to show for it.

I'm really interested in what packages are being offered.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#703 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Mar 7, 2022 5:42 pm

IMO they already know Rodgers is coming back, it's just a matter of ironing out the details before making an announcement. As for Adams they'll definitely tag him tomorrow and then keeping trying for an extension to help the cap.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#704 » by Profound23 » Mon Mar 7, 2022 5:47 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-just-received-a-market-altering-contract-offer-from-the-packers-per-report/

Aaron Rodgers just received a market-altering contract offer from the Packers, per report
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#705 » by LUKE23 » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:05 pm

Profound23 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-just-received-a-market-altering-contract-offer-from-the-packers-per-report/

Aaron Rodgers just received a market-altering contract offer from the Packers, per report


Gross.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

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LUKE23 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-just-received-a-market-altering-contract-offer-from-the-packers-per-report/

Aaron Rodgers just received a market-altering contract offer from the Packers, per report


Gross.


If this is true it tells me they have no faith whatsoever in Love.....or they are just too scared to be known as "the guys who ran Rodgers out of town."

Either way, I think it is a bad idea....hope I am wrong.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#707 » by RRyder823 » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:35 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:IMO they already know Rodgers is coming back, it's just a matter of ironing out the details before making an announcement. As for Adams they'll definitely tag him tomorrow and then keeping trying for an extension to help the cap.


A whole bunch of domino's need to fall for that to be a possibility and the longer we wait for one to drop the less likely he's getting tagged unless it ends up a scorched earth scenerio



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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#708 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:37 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:IMO they already know Rodgers is coming back, it's just a matter of ironing out the details before making an announcement. As for Adams they'll definitely tag him tomorrow and then keeping trying for an extension to help the cap.


A whole bunch of domino's need to fall for that to be a possibility and the longer we wait for one to drop the less likely he's getting tagged unless it ends up a scorched earth scenerio



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Yea, from what I've seen so far the Packers aren't close to being able to tag him.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#709 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Mar 7, 2022 6:48 pm

If they do extend Rodgers I just hope they don't insult our intelligence and try to still spin 'this was the plan all along' in regards to the Love pick. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. If Rodgers is extended that Love pick was a mistake plain and simple.


Also if Rodgers is getting extended that's has to come in the next 24hrs right? That's the major cap reducing mechanism that would help get to the point where they actually could tag Adams.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

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MickeyDavis wrote:IMO they already know Rodgers is coming back, it's just a matter of ironing out the details before making an announcement. As for Adams they'll definitely tag him tomorrow and then keeping trying for an extension to help the cap.


A whole bunch of domino's need to fall for that to be a possibility and the longer we wait for one to drop the less likely he's getting tagged unless it ends up a scorched earth scenerio



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Yea, from what I've seen so far the Packers aren't close to being able to tag him.


They can tag him tomorrow. They don't have to be under the cap until the 16th. Obviously they want to extend him, a tagged Adams on 3/16 is cap hell. And they can always rescind the tag before then. Or trade him while tagged and his new team can extend him. Lots of moving parts
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#711 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 7, 2022 7:09 pm

Well, is Rodgers going to wait for the Mcafee show to let us know?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#712 » by stillgotgame » Mon Mar 7, 2022 7:12 pm

It’s amazing how badly Gute has played this. Completely at Rodgers’ mercy at this point, zero leverage. Pathetic that he would allow the Packers to be stuck in such a bad spot.
Rodgers is a diva but Gute is incompetent. Not seeing us winning this either way. No way we’re going to come out of this with a reasonable deal for Rodgers or a haul of picks & young players.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#713 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 7, 2022 7:16 pm

stillgotgame wrote:It’s amazing how badly Gute has played this. Completely at Rodgers’ mercy at this point, zero leverage. Pathetic that he would allow the Packers to be stuck in such a bad spot.
Rodgers is a diva but Gute is incompetent. Not seeing us winning this either way. No way we’re going to come out of this with a reasonable deal for Rodgers or a haul of picks & young players.


I mean, lets be really real. Rodgers 'took' the leverage by upping his game to back to back MVPs in mid to late 30s. If he doesn't have these last two years, no one even cares what Gute did.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#714 » by stillgotgame » Mon Mar 7, 2022 7:23 pm

M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:It’s amazing how badly Gute has played this. Completely at Rodgers’ mercy at this point, zero leverage. Pathetic that he would allow the Packers to be stuck in such a bad spot.
Rodgers is a diva but Gute is incompetent. Not seeing us winning this either way. No way we’re going to come out of this with a reasonable deal for Rodgers or a haul of picks & young players.


I mean, lets be really real. Rodgers 'took' the leverage by upping his game to back to back MVPs in mid to late 30s. If he doesn't have these last two years, no one even cares what Gute did.


If Gute was any good at this job he’d be worth defending. He’s not. Hitting on a good share of draft picks does not a GM make. He’d be a good director of scouting.
At this point he’s just trying not to get fired. This will come at the expense of the best interest of the Packers. If Rodgers won’t stay unless he gets big money Gute should man up and tell him to pound sand.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#715 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 7, 2022 7:32 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:It’s amazing how badly Gute has played this. Completely at Rodgers’ mercy at this point, zero leverage. Pathetic that he would allow the Packers to be stuck in such a bad spot.
Rodgers is a diva but Gute is incompetent. Not seeing us winning this either way. No way we’re going to come out of this with a reasonable deal for Rodgers or a haul of picks & young players.


I mean, lets be really real. Rodgers 'took' the leverage by upping his game to back to back MVPs in mid to late 30s. If he doesn't have these last two years, no one even cares what Gute did.


If Gute was any good at this job he’d be worth defending. He’s not. Hitting on a good share of draft picks does not a GM make. He’d be a good director of scouting.
At this point he’s just trying not to get fired. This will come at the expense of the best interest of the Packers. If Rodgers won’t stay unless he gets big money Gute should man up and tell him to pound sand.


Has there been a better GM in free agency? I'll answer, not many, if any. So now you have a GM by your own admission is a good drafter, who is also considered one of the best free agency GMs across the league.

So your biggest criticism is his Diva Management. Go ahead and give him a zero there, and you are still left with one of the best GMs in the league.

EDIT: Oh ****, I didn't even mention he selected a relatively unknown coaching candidate that has put together the best start by any coach, and oh by the way is having his coaching tree raided.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#716 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Mar 7, 2022 7:38 pm

Jesus, Gute's either a moron for "not going all-in" (lol) and not placating Rodgers' ego with a massive extension and input on personnel moves. Now Gute's a moron because he's throwing the largest extension possible at Rodgers that'll probably put us in cap hell. I've given up trying to keep track of all the "Gute's a moron" scenarios because it's just as tiring as keeping track of Aaron's offseason drama.

Whatever happens, just let this **** be settled by the end of the month, please.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#717 » by stillgotgame » Mon Mar 7, 2022 8:04 pm

M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
I mean, lets be really real. Rodgers 'took' the leverage by upping his game to back to back MVPs in mid to late 30s. If he doesn't have these last two years, no one even cares what Gute did.


If Gute was any good at this job he’d be worth defending. He’s not. Hitting on a good share of draft picks does not a GM make. He’d be a good director of scouting.
At this point he’s just trying not to get fired. This will come at the expense of the best interest of the Packers. If Rodgers won’t stay unless he gets big money Gute should man up and tell him to pound sand.


Has there been a better GM in free agency? I'll answer, not many, if any. So now you have a GM by your own admission is a good drafter, who is also considered one of the best free agency GMs across the league.

So your biggest criticism is his Diva Management. Go ahead and give him a zero there, and you are still left with one of the best GMs in the league.

EDIT: Oh ****, I didn't even mention he selected a relatively unknown coaching candidate that has put together the best start by any coach, and oh by the way is having his coaching tree raided.


I said he hit on a few draft picks, does that make him a good drafter?
If for some magical reason we do come out of this with a haul of draft picks do you think he can find just 1 useful pass catcher? He’s been truly horrible at drafting skill position players. He’s spent a first, a second, 3 thirds and 2 fourths so far on skill position players. Only useful pick so far has been a backup running back.
As for MLF’s coaching he’s a good regular season coach, wow. Has won nothing, and each season has needed with embarrassment. Terrible special teams this year, choked last year, and got completely dominated at the line of scrimmage the year before. But lemme guess, you think all these fails were Rodgers fault?

Rodgers has been covering up MLF and Gute’s faults for years. Now he’s proven to be too old to handle the cold at Lambeau come playoff time. Time to ship him out and tear off the bandaid. Let’s see how Gute & MLF do then. Maybe Jordan will improve and they’ll all surprise us, there’s a small glimmer of hope that happens.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#718 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Mar 7, 2022 8:08 pm

stillgotgame wrote:It’s amazing how badly Gute has played this. Completely at Rodgers’ mercy at this point, zero leverage. Pathetic that he would allow the Packers to be stuck in such a bad spot.
Rodgers is a diva but Gute is incompetent. Not seeing us winning this either way. No way we’re going to come out of this with a reasonable deal for Rodgers or a haul of picks & young players.
I've been trying to tell people that Rodgers had all the leverage since they amended his contract to get him to come to camp last year. It was a smart restructure on Rodgers part, had him go into this off-season with a cap number that wasn't workable so extension or trade was the only option and he kept some leverage on the trade part by getting them to waive him paying back part of his bonus and that allows him to threaten retirement if he didn't like the destination. It was a smart play.

If the pack wanted to work from a position of power the time for a trade was last draft.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#719 » by stillgotgame » Mon Mar 7, 2022 8:10 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
If Gute was any good at this job he’d be worth defending. He’s not. Hitting on a good share of draft picks does not a GM make. He’d be a good director of scouting.
At this point he’s just trying not to get fired. This will come at the expense of the best interest of the Packers. If Rodgers won’t stay unless he gets big money Gute should man up and tell him to pound sand.


Has there been a better GM in free agency? I'll answer, not many, if any. So now you have a GM by your own admission is a good drafter, who is also considered one of the best free agency GMs across the league.

So your biggest criticism is his Diva Management. Go ahead and give him a zero there, and you are still left with one of the best GMs in the league.

EDIT: Oh ****, I didn't even mention he selected a relatively unknown coaching candidate that has put together the best start by any coach, and oh by the way is having his coaching tree raided.


I said he hit on a few draft picks, does that make him a good drafter?
If for some magical reason we do come out of this with a haul of draft picks do you think he can find just 1 useful pass catcher? He’s been truly horrible at drafting skill position players. He’s spent a first, a second, 3 thirds and 2 fourths so far on skill position players. Only useful pick so far has been a backup running back.
As for MLF’s coaching he’s a good regular season coach, wow. Has won nothing, and each season has ended with embarrassment. Terrible special teams this year, choked last year, and got completely dominated at the line of scrimmage the year before. But lemme guess, you think all these fails were Rodgers fault?

Rodgers has been covering up MLF and Gute’s faults for years. Now he’s proven to be too old to handle the cold at Lambeau come playoff time. Time to ship him out and tear off the bandaid. Let’s see how Gute & MLF do then. Maybe Jordan will improve and they’ll all surprise us, there’s a small glimmer of hope that happens.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Pack in London 

Post#720 » by M-C-G » Mon Mar 7, 2022 8:30 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
If Gute was any good at this job he’d be worth defending. He’s not. Hitting on a good share of draft picks does not a GM make. He’d be a good director of scouting.
At this point he’s just trying not to get fired. This will come at the expense of the best interest of the Packers. If Rodgers won’t stay unless he gets big money Gute should man up and tell him to pound sand.


Has there been a better GM in free agency? I'll answer, not many, if any. So now you have a GM by your own admission is a good drafter, who is also considered one of the best free agency GMs across the league.

So your biggest criticism is his Diva Management. Go ahead and give him a zero there, and you are still left with one of the best GMs in the league.

EDIT: Oh ****, I didn't even mention he selected a relatively unknown coaching candidate that has put together the best start by any coach, and oh by the way is having his coaching tree raided.


I said he hit on a few draft picks, does that make him a good drafter?
If for some magical reason we do come out of this with a haul of draft picks do you think he can find just 1 useful pass catcher? He’s been truly horrible at drafting skill position players. He’s spent a first, a second, 3 thirds and 2 fourths so far on skill position players. Only useful pick so far has been a backup running back.
As for MLF’s coaching he’s a good regular season coach, wow. Has won nothing, and each season has needed with embarrassment. Terrible special teams this year, choked last year, and got completely dominated at the line of scrimmage the year before. But lemme guess, you think all these fails were Rodgers fault?

Rodgers has been covering up MLF and Gute’s faults for years. Now he’s proven to be too old to handle the cold at Lambeau come playoff time. Time to ship him out and tear off the bandaid. Let’s see how Gute & MLF do then. Maybe Jordan will improve and they’ll all surprise us, there’s a small glimmer of hope that happens.


MLF is a good regular season coach, so what, then what do I do about Rodgers only winning more than 1 playoff game twice in his career despite making the playoffs 11 times? Everyone elses fault still?

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