Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks
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I heard salary cap is jumping up 20 million if thats true does that the packers only 9 million over then
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Nope. The cap jump was pretty on par with what was projected which everyone was allready factoring inDaver wrote:I heard salary cap is jumping up 20 million if thats true does that the packers only 9 million over then
We're still roughly 26 million over currently I believe
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RRyder823 wrote:Nope. The cap jump was pretty on par with what was projected which everyone was allready factoring inDaver wrote:I heard salary cap is jumping up 20 million if thats true does that the packers only 9 million over then
We're still roughly 26 million over currently I believe
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Yup, the cap number was made official today but it's the number the teams were given awhile ago.
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Preeeettttyyyyy muchLUKE23 wrote:Profound23 wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-just-received-a-market-altering-contract-offer-from-the-packers-per-report/Aaron Rodgers just received a market-altering contract offer from the Packers, per report
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M-C-G wrote:stillgotgame wrote:M-C-G wrote:
Has there been a better GM in free agency? I'll answer, not many, if any. So now you have a GM by your own admission is a good drafter, who is also considered one of the best free agency GMs across the league.
So your biggest criticism is his Diva Management. Go ahead and give him a zero there, and you are still left with one of the best GMs in the league.
EDIT: Oh ****, I didn't even mention he selected a relatively unknown coaching candidate that has put together the best start by any coach, and oh by the way is having his coaching tree raided.
I said he hit on a few draft picks, does that make him a good drafter?
If for some magical reason we do come out of this with a haul of draft picks do you think he can find just 1 useful pass catcher? He’s been truly horrible at drafting skill position players. He’s spent a first, a second, 3 thirds and 2 fourths so far on skill position players. Only useful pick so far has been a backup running back.
As for MLF’s coaching he’s a good regular season coach, wow. Has won nothing, and each season has needed with embarrassment. Terrible special teams this year, choked last year, and got completely dominated at the line of scrimmage the year before. But lemme guess, you think all these fails were Rodgers fault?
Rodgers has been covering up MLF and Gute’s faults for years. Now he’s proven to be too old to handle the cold at Lambeau come playoff time. Time to ship him out and tear off the bandaid. Let’s see how Gute & MLF do then. Maybe Jordan will improve and they’ll all surprise us, there’s a small glimmer of hope that happens.
MLF is a good regular season coach, so what, then what do I do about Rodgers only winning more than 1 playoff game twice in his career despite making the playoffs 11 times? Everyone elses fault still?
I trust you watched those games. No need to be disingenuous.
Gute's okay, but made some serious (and possibly fatal-to-his-job) miscalculations:
1. Believing that Rodgers' play was unsalvageable.
2. Picking Love over immediate help after a 13-3 NFCCG season. Doubly boneheaded because it burned the best team improvement method available (which are limited) on a guaranteed to be non-useful player for that year, *and* it pissed off the diva superstar you desperately need to keep your job and win SBs with.
3. Not knowing your diva well enough to smooth his ego over after Miscalculation 2.
To think this mess we have now could maybe have been avoided if Tee Higgins is the pick. And if Love ends up sucking, you really have to question Gute's decision making - was it worth staking your career on a franchise altering move if you're not certain Jordan Love is a future star?
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All these leaks about the Packers doing everything they can to bring Rodgers back lead me to believe that they're legitimately worried he's going to ask for a trade.
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humanrefutation wrote:All these leaks about the Packers doing everything they can to bring Rodgers back lead me to believe that they're legitimately worried he's going to ask for a trade.
I see it more as hedging bets so you can try to save face with the Rodgers worshiping portion of the fan base and claim you went above and beyond to try and keep him.
Conversely, Rodgers showing admiration all offseason to the Packers is essentially doing the same thing.
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Haven’t been paying attention to anything Packers related since the season ended.
I’m hoping he asks for a trade and we get a bunch of picks, I’m ready to start over.
I’m hoping he asks for a trade and we get a bunch of picks, I’m ready to start over.
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I trust you watched those games. No need to be disingenuous.
I love when people try to negate something by slapping this kind of label on it.
Where this falls apart, is where I have been critical of MLF and the game plans and the horrible idea to switch up the offensive line. So what do we do now that I acknowledge there is a coaching mistake, can I simply wish away Rodgers missing open guys, locking in on Adams, struggling with accuracy. Can I blame big Mac for that too?
Guys, this isn't hard, Rodgers played well under his standard in the last two games, especially that we were eliminated. It is disingenuous to suggest otherwise for people that watched the game. He set the standard that he has not lived up to.
In his last three games we were eliminated he is averaging; 1.7 TD 1 INT, 5 sacks, and the team has averaged 19 points in those three games.
Not bad numbers if you are Jimmy Grappalo or Carson Wentz, maybe even Kirk Cousins. But he wanted to be the highest paid, he wanted to be regarded as the best QB in the world and when you compare that to his regular season averages the last three years;
2.3 TD .3 INT while the offense has averaged 27 ppg those regular season last three years.
It's okay to admit it guys, he played poopy in the elimination games, we all saw it. His stats actually look better than his play, saying otherwise is what is truly disingenuous. Rodgers has not met, frankly not even close, to his own standard in our last three playoff losses, other factors there too, but to pretend Rodgers wasn't part of the problem, nah, he was.
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jakecronus8 wrote:humanrefutation wrote:All these leaks about the Packers doing everything they can to bring Rodgers back lead me to believe that they're legitimately worried he's going to ask for a trade.
I see it more as hedging bets so you can try to save face with the Rodgers worshiping portion of the fan base and claim you went above and beyond to try and keep him.
Conversely, Rodgers showing admiration all offseason to the Packers is essentially doing the same thing.
I frankly have no clue, but I have been all over the spectrum on this. My gut says he comes back, but I can definitely see how both he and the team are posturing for the trade so that fans won't hate either side when it is done.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they do extend Rodgers I just hope they don't insult our intelligence and try to still spin 'this was the plan all along' in regards to the Love pick. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. If Rodgers is extended that Love pick was a mistake plain and simple.
Is it not safe to say it was a major mistake yet?
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Sure but maybe I'm biased because I would have never taken him in the first place. I guess there's a scenario where Rodgers leaves this off-season and Love is great. Nothing he showed so far has been all that special but I don't want to bury a guy after like 6 quarters of action.JayMKE wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they do extend Rodgers I just hope they don't insult our intelligence and try to still spin 'this was the plan all along' in regards to the Love pick. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. If Rodgers is extended that Love pick was a mistake plain and simple.
Is it not safe to say it was a major mistake yet?
Where I think Gute absolutely made a mistake is hes been around Aaron for a long time and should have understood that's he's a thin skinned vindictive dude who was going to be pissy pants about the pick. The analogy I'll use is say you've been married for 10 years and you know your wife is the super jealous type, you can't act surprised when she gets pissed if you hire a hot assistant.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Sure but maybe I'm biased because I would have never taken him in the first place. I guess there's a scenario where Rodgers leaves this off-season and Love is great. Nothing he showed so far has been all that special but I don't want to bury a guy after like 6 quarters of action.JayMKE wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they do extend Rodgers I just hope they don't insult our intelligence and try to still spin 'this was the plan all along' in regards to the Love pick. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. If Rodgers is extended that Love pick was a mistake plain and simple.
Is it not safe to say it was a major mistake yet?
Where I think Gute absolutely made a mistake is hes been around Aaron for a long time and should have understood that's he's a thin skinned vindictive dude who was going to be pissy pants about the pick. The analogy I'll use is say you've been married for 10 years and you know your wife is the super jealous type, you can't act surprised when she gets pissed if you hire a hot assistant.
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Its obviously tricky, but if Rodgers leaves, we get a draft haul and Love shows some flashes, you could say it was a mistake, but one that worked out for everyone in the end.
I have said it many times, I wouldn't have drafted Love, was pretty shocked when it happened, but I can understand why they did it, even if it set off a chain reactions of events that have gotten real messy. But that doesn't mean I don't trust the our draft process, they have hit pretty well on guys and obviously felt like Love has what it takes to be a NFL QB.
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IDK its seems like a pretty clear vote of non-confidence to want to lock up the guy ahead of you to a massive new contract, year 3 & there are less believers than there were the previous 2 seasons so its not looking good. Sunk cost and insurance isn't a good reason to string someone along, if Rodgers signs a new deal then Love probably should be moved for whatever pick we can get. If Rodgers doesn't come back I want to explore other options.
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The #Packers and MVP QB Aaron Rodgers have agreed to terms on a 4-year, $200M deal that makes him the highest paid player in NFL history, sources say. He gets a whopping $153M guaranteed and his cap number goes down. A monstrous commitment by GB for years to come.
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153 mill guaranteed. Cap friendly first yearWeekapaugGroove wrote:?t=wMBtzFz7KqDvp_VwgPg05g&s=19
Well there it is.
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JayMKE wrote:IDK its seems like a pretty clear vote of non-confidence to want to lock up the guy ahead of you.
Honest question, what % of GMs in the league DO NOT want to retain the back to back MVP quarterback in the NFL? I am guessing it has happened in the history of the NFL, but I don't think that is a reason to used in an evaluation of Love.
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Alright cool so it's very likely Aaron gets to be a 1 team guy for his whole career. That's cool. Selfishly I was rooting for this because the super bowl is here in AZ this coming year so there's a punchers I get to see the pack.
Curious if they trade love. Can't imagine they would get much so might just keep him as the backup. They will obviously decline that 5th year option, it's way too expensive for a backup.
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Curious if they trade love. Can't imagine they would get much so might just keep him as the backup. They will obviously decline that 5th year option, it's way too expensive for a backup.
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