Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks
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The rebuild would have sucked. Hopefully Rodgers takes a low enough cap number to allow the roster to be competitive.
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Well, the next few years feels a lot less exciting now.
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I would've respected Rodgers so much more if he just had the balls to be honest and say he wanted to get paid instead of embarking on this elaborate charade. Just own it, say "I think i'm the best and I want to be paid accordingly". No need for all this extra pathetic nonsense.
I'm no fan of Rodgers the person at this point but I'm fine with it. The arrogance of some fans to complain about the fact that we're going to be good annoys me. As long as Rodgers is healthy we'll be good. Zero perspective for some about life as an NFL fan without an incredible QB at the helm. I'll happily sign up for a couple more honest cracks at winning the Super Bowl.
I would've been fine with a rebuild too, it would've been exciting in a different way but I suspect after the initial euphoria of the extra draft picks we might have been in for some pain with the on field product. They organization was at a fork in the road and made their decision. they're going to delay the pain and try to win with Rodgers. Whatever, it's over now, i'm glad we can move on and focus on FA and the draft.
I'm no fan of Rodgers the person at this point but I'm fine with it. The arrogance of some fans to complain about the fact that we're going to be good annoys me. As long as Rodgers is healthy we'll be good. Zero perspective for some about life as an NFL fan without an incredible QB at the helm. I'll happily sign up for a couple more honest cracks at winning the Super Bowl.
I would've been fine with a rebuild too, it would've been exciting in a different way but I suspect after the initial euphoria of the extra draft picks we might have been in for some pain with the on field product. They organization was at a fork in the road and made their decision. they're going to delay the pain and try to win with Rodgers. Whatever, it's over now, i'm glad we can move on and focus on FA and the draft.
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I'm good with it. Adams will be extended (tagged for now), find a way to retain Campbell. Our special teams should be fixed. Can't wait for the season to start.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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I hope they don't try and trade Love for a crappy pick. Might as well hold onto him and try and continue to develop him, unless he asks for a trade.
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Whatever, it's done. Now go out and win another Super Bowl. No more **** excuses now that you got the biggest bag in NFL history.
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For me, the only way this is acceptable is with a SB win. Otherwise, an epic mistake
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Id say if someone offers a 3rd you take it. It's basically a 2 year window with love because they absolutely can not afford to pick up the expensive 5th year option.Matches Malone wrote:I hope they don't try and trade Love for a crappy pick. Might as well hold onto him and try and continue to develop him, unless he asks for a trade.
I'm not sure on the cap hit/savings of a trade. I think it's about even this season with the dead money vs cap hit if hes on the team.
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Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
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Alright Rodgers. Win it all or your legacy will be that of an overpayed drama queen with questionable judgement.
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Tee Higgins and Tyler Biadasz for Love? Who says no?
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Matches Malone wrote:I hope they don't try and trade Love for a crappy pick. Might as well hold onto him and try and continue to develop him, unless he asks for a trade.
If someone offers a 2nd for Love, I will take it at this point.
If not, then I hold on to him in case Rodgers gets hurt. Something tells me they try to use Love to move up in the draft similar to Matt Hasselback.
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Profound23 wrote:Matches Malone wrote:I hope they don't try and trade Love for a crappy pick. Might as well hold onto him and try and continue to develop him, unless he asks for a trade.
If someone offers a 2nd for Love, I will take it at this point.
If not, then I hold on to him in case Rodgers gets hurt. Something tells me they try to use Love to move up in the draft similar to Matt Hasselback.
A second or even a third would be fine, but I was hearing people say late day 3 pick and I was not about that lol.
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Treebeard wrote:For me, the only way this is acceptable is with a SB win. Otherwise, an epic mistake
Wouldn't call it a potentially epic mistake. Their chances of being a Super Bowl contender under Jordan Love next season was pretty remote.
And frankly it's now his legacy not ours. i.e. if he can't win a SB in the next two years, its going to massively damage his legacy. We're going to get a couple 12-win seasons out of it most likely if he stays healthy.
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If this is true, I need the "Rodgers didn't command 50 mil per year" crew who blamed the media and everyone else to step forward and eat their crow.
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M-C-G wrote:th87 wrote:
I trust you watched those games. No need to be disingenuous.
I love when people try to negate something by slapping this kind of label on it.
Where this falls apart, is where I have been critical of MLF and the game plans and the horrible idea to switch up the offensive line. So what do we do now that I acknowledge there is a coaching mistake, can I simply wish away Rodgers missing open guys, locking in on Adams, struggling with accuracy. Can I blame big Mac for that too?
Guys, this isn't hard, Rodgers played well under his standard in the last two games, especially that we were eliminated. It is disingenuous to suggest otherwise for people that watched the game. He set the standard that he has not lived up to.
In his last three games we were eliminated he is averaging; 1.7 TD 1 INT, 5 sacks, and the team has averaged 19 points in those three games.
Not bad numbers if you are Jimmy Grappalo or Carson Wentz, maybe even Kirk Cousins. But he wanted to be the highest paid, he wanted to be regarded as the best QB in the world and when you compare that to his regular season averages the last three years;
2.3 TD .3 INT while the offense has averaged 27 ppg those regular season last three years.
It's okay to admit it guys, he played poopy in the elimination games, we all saw it. His stats actually look better than his play, saying otherwise is what is truly disingenuous. Rodgers has not met, frankly not even close, to his own standard in our last three playoff losses, other factors there too, but to pretend Rodgers wasn't part of the problem, nah, he was.
And now you appear to commit a strawman fallacy. Your quote I was responding to was this:
M-C-G wrote:MLF is a good regular season coach, so what, then what do I do about Rodgers only winning more than 1 playoff game twice in his career despite making the playoffs 11 times? Everyone elses fault still?
You're blaming Rodgers for 9 playoff exits here, and not the 2-3 you argue later. Doing so is being disingenuous. No one is arguing against his culpability in the last 2 exits. But retroactively attaching the McCarthy years to this as well ignores everything we all saw in those games.
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Safe to say trading up in the 1st round for a QB after your all-world, first ballot Hall of Famer tells you he wants to play "well into his 40's" was a terrible idea. Especially when you were arguably 1-2 players away from a Super Bowl. Painfully obvious at the time of the pick/trade, borderline fireable offense after your all-world QB wins two more MVPs. Wish Gutey had some David Stearns-like humility in him and would have moved on from Love after a year. Probably could have gotten a 3rd. Now? Who knows? But extremely happy I won't have to watch my favorite football team with a mediocre-to-bad QB behind center.
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Why would a team give anything better than a 5th rounder for Love? Anything better than that seems like we’re wishing.
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Treebeard wrote:For me, the only way this is acceptable is with a SB win. Otherwise, an epic mistake
Just came here to say the same. Only way this is a good decision is if they host another Lombardi under the contract. I don't give a **** if we go 17-0 and make the SB and lose, this is as all-or-nothing as it gets.
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jute2003 wrote:Alright Rodgers. Win it all or your legacy will be that of an overpayed drama queen with questionable judgement.
Nah. Legacy cemented. Top-5 all time at the most important position in sports. Definitely need one more ring though.