Game 4: Eagles at Packers - 7:20 - FOX

[rilamann]

Sorry guys it seems i was bad luck ...

The fact that the Eagles scored 34 points, I am definitely blaming this one on you......lol JK.

[Kerb Hohl]

Isn’t that pass interference

Yes. The rules suck cause that can't be challenged. Tho it was a turnover sonit should get looked at. Tho maybe they don't care about pi then. Kinda F'y. Think that would be the play you would have reviewable pi for. But wtf do I know.

I thought all turnovers and scoring plays were automatically reviewed?

Correct, the refs just drew the line at “most important play of the game while the Eagles celebrated on the field” to not try to mess up the flow of the game. It was weird but you knew they just wouldn’t even bother reviewing that one.

[Kfarm2711]

The Eagles are such a dirty team they knocked one of their own players out.

[MoMM]

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And we didn't even talk about the 2 FGs we had in the 1st half that at least one should be a TD. We lost a lot of momentum there as well.

BTW, Congrats to Eagles defense that had we at Red Zone 4 times and we scored 2 FGs.

[MoMM]

Mason Crosby had as many tackles as Rashan Gary.

Imagine if we had drafted Fant or Brown, waived Graham and used his cap-hit to sign another useful player

[MAC1987]

I'm not sure Fant would've been a good idea. But Brown for sure. I'm not calling Gary a bust. Other players are ahead of him. Patience.

Mason Crosby had as many tackles as Rashan Gary.

Imagine if we had drafted Fant or Brown, waived Graham and used his cap-hit to sign another useful player

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[JimmyTheKid]

Yes. The rules suck cause that can't be challenged. Tho it was a turnover sonit should get looked at. Tho maybe they don't care about pi then. Kinda F'y. Think that would be the play you would have reviewable pi for. But wtf do I know.

I thought all turnovers and scoring plays were automatically reviewed?

Correct, the refs just drew the line at “most important play of the game while the Eagles celebrated on the field” to not try to mess up the flow of the game. It was weird but you knew they just wouldn’t even bother reviewing that one.

Has there been any explanation?

[leroyjw10]

Why is our run D so bad?

I can't tell what formation they're running (a 4-1, maybe a 3-3?), but having only one MLB can't help. It seemed to get better in the 4Q when they brought in Goodson.

Hard to give either Howard or Sanders too much credit as they were running through huge gaping holes all night. Doesn't say much for our interior lineman, who were getting blown off the ball.

[MoMM]

I'm not sure Fant would've been a good idea. But Brown for sure. I'm not calling Gary a bust. Other players are ahead of him. Patience.

Mason Crosby had as many tackles as Rashan Gary.

Imagine if we had drafted Fant or Brown, waived Graham and used his cap-hit to sign another useful player

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Agreed we can't call him a bust, but considering that we focused our Free Agency at Defense, we could gave gotten a better help at Offense for cheap via Draft.

[Profound23]

I don’t know what is more concerning:
Four straight pass attempts on first and goal at the one, followed by another pass attempt on second and goal after running for five yards with two timeouts at the end. I mean, don’t you want to drain the clock if you score so the Eagles have no opportunity to kick a Fg anyways?


Or

Our run defense

[Treebeard]

The run defense is more concerning to me. The inability to stop even basic runs from gaining 4-6 yards a whack has become a recurring theme.

The other great concern is the state of the Oline. Jenkins will be fine replacing Taylor, but he'll have a learning curve. We saw last night that Light got torched several times after coming in for Bulaga. They need to find a better combo on the right side. Any news on Bulaga's return? (Cheap shot warning: knowing Bulaga's injury history, I'm worried he's out for some time)

[ReasonablySober]

Adams being out might have had a big impact.

[Balls2TheWalls]

The run defense is bad because the book is written on Blake Martinez in traffic. He frequently commits to the wrong hole, doesn't disengage from blocking well, and doesn't come downhill unless there is literally no players between him and the ball carrier. Teams are committing to getting a guard to the second level and he gets cratered. You will find a lot of film of him getting engaged and him going full Nick Barnett/AJ Hawk and moving 8 yards from the line of scrimmage or just simply giving up and standing around.

[RRyder823]

I'm not too upset about this one. Hey, 3-1 every quarter and 12-4 does the job. Reinforces my suspicion that we need one more draft/FA to really be SB contenders, though.

But we won’t go 3-1 in every quarter.

Dal, Det, Oak, KC. Prob 2-2 at best

LAC, Car, SF, NYG, maybe 3-1 (prob out best chance to go 4-0)

Was, Chi, Min, Det Probably 2-2

Even still that’s 10-6 which is where a lot of us thought this team would be. I think most of us would find that acceptable depending how they did in the playoffs but a 10-6 team is probably getting bounced pretty quick. The 3-0 start really had us having hopes of a bye and home field advantage. If Dallas beats us it will be virtually impossible to catch them for the #1 seed.

Looking at those 4 game stretches 3-1 in each of them is still extremely possible and actually pretty likely if the Packers are a legit good team.

You seem to be taking an pessimistic view on 2 of those stretches where 3-1 isnt an unlikely scenario if this a good team. It really depends whether you think this a middle of the road/8-8 talented type team or higher.

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[Balls2TheWalls]

I'm not too upset about this one. Hey, 3-1 every quarter and 12-4 does the job. Reinforces my suspicion that we need one more draft/FA to really be SB contenders, though.

But we won’t go 3-1 in every quarter.

Dal, Det, Oak, KC. Prob 2-2 at best

LAC, Car, SF, NYG, maybe 3-1 (prob out best chance to go 4-0)

Was, Chi, Min, Det Probably 2-2

Even still that’s 10-6 which is where a lot of us thought this team would be. I think most of us would find that acceptable depending how they did in the playoffs but a 10-6 team is probably getting bounced pretty quick. The 3-0 start really had us having hopes of a bye and home field advantage. If Dallas beats us it will be virtually impossible to catch them for the #1 seed.

Looking at those 4 game stretches 3-1 in each of them is still extremely possible and actually pretty likely if the Packers are a legit good team.

You seem to be taking an pessimistic view on 2 of those stretches where 3-1 isnt an unlikely scenario if this a good team. It really depends whether you think this a middle of the road/8-8 talented type team or higher.

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They absolutely must find a solution for their run defense. The weakness of the defense is going to be the other team's ability to choke out games they get ahead in through simple running lanes. The teams you have projected for us to possibly go 3-1 have effective running backs and can really move the ball against a team uncommitted to stopping the run.

On another side note, if Jimmy Graham can't pull in the ball to tie the game, what can he even do? Catch the ball. You are getting paid like a #2 receiver.

[Ron Swanson]

Prime Ray Lewis isn’t gonna make too many plays when the runner is already 3-4 yards past the line of scrimmage by the time he gets there, cuz your D-line is getting annihilated. Don’t get me wrong, Martinez wasn’t great, but you guys are putting way too much blame on the linebackers. Lancaster can’t be playing consistent snaps out there. He’s horrid.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Prime Ray Lewis isn’t gonna make too many plays when the runner is already 3-4 yards past the line of scrimmage by the time he gets there, cuz your D-line is getting annihilated. Don’t get me wrong, Martinez wasn’t great, but you guys are putting way too much blame on the linebackers. Lancaster can’t be playing consistent snaps out there. He’s horrid.

Martinez is playing behind one of the best defensive tackles in the league. Was our defensive line getting annihilated by the Vikings' offensive line? How about the Broncos? No, they find a way to get a helmet on Blake Martinez. They find him in coverage. Teams are picking on him because his weaknesses are on display.

[Matches Malone]

Team sorely missing Montravius Adams in the run game. Say what you will about his first couple seasons as a Pro, he's certainly molded himself into an important player on this defense, especially in the run defense.

[Ron Swanson]

Prime Ray Lewis isn’t gonna make too many plays when the runner is already 3-4 yards past the line of scrimmage by the time he gets there, cuz your D-line is getting annihilated. Don’t get me wrong, Martinez wasn’t great, but you guys are putting way too much blame on the linebackers. Lancaster can’t be playing consistent snaps out there. He’s horrid.

Martinez is playing behind one of the best defensive tackles in the league. Was our defensive line getting annihilated by the Vikings' offensive line?How about the Broncos? No, they find a way to get a helmet on Blake Martinez. They find him in coverage. Teams are picking on him because his weaknesses are on display.

Against the run? Uhh, yes?

[ibanezjp]

I'm not too upset about this one. Hey, 3-1 every quarter and 12-4 does the job. Reinforces my suspicion that we need one more draft/FA to really be SB contenders, though.

But we won’t go 3-1 in every quarter.

Dal, Det, Oak, KC. Prob 2-2 at best

LAC, Car, SF, NYG, maybe 3-1 (prob out best chance to go 4-0)

Was, Chi, Min, Det Probably 2-2

Even still that’s 10-6 which is where a lot of us thought this team would be. I think most of us would find that acceptable depending how they did in the playoffs but a 10-6 team is probably getting bounced pretty quick. The 3-0 start really had us having hopes of a bye and home field advantage. If Dallas beats us it will be virtually impossible to catch them for the #1 seed.

Looking at those 4 game stretches 3-1 in each of them is still extremely possible and actually pretty likely if the Packers are a legit good team.

You seem to be taking an pessimistic view on 2 of those stretches where 3-1 isnt an unlikely scenario if this a good team. It really depends whether you think this a middle of the road/8-8 talented type team or higher.

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I just simply think they are 10-6 and not a 12-4 team. I think all of us (myself included) got a little too high with expectations after the 3-0 start. We all knew this team had a pretty clear ceiling offensively with the limited talent at WR and TE. We also knew there would be growing pains with new HC and new system. Last night was clearly one of those major growing pains. Not a huge deal as long as they learn from that. Bad sign though if it’s like McCarthy where we just keep doing the same crap year after year. Bart said it on the show this morning but last night really looked exactly like a McCarthy/Capers/Zook performance from all units. That is concerning.