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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#761 » by Iheartfootball » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:05 pm

Well, this will definitely test my ability to separate the player from the person over the next 4 years.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#762 » by LUKE23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:06 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Wouldn't call it a potentially epic mistake. Their chances of being a Super Bowl contender under Jordan Love next season was pretty remote.

And frankly it's now his legacy not ours. i.e. if he can't win a SB in the next two years, its going to massively damage his legacy. We're going to get a couple 12-win seasons out of it most likely if he stays healthy.


People need to stop talking about Love and 2022 as if it that is all that matters here, though. The flip side of a huge extension for Rodgers is getting multiple first round picks, maybe some young talent in addition, while also being able to retain your entire defense.

Sure, Love may suck in 2022. But then you have a stacked 2023 draft to take your guy, cap flexibility, and a young studly defense.

Now, I get that moving on from a back to back MVP is easier on these forums than in real life. That said - you make this move while going all in and kicking a ton of cap problems into the future, there is only one acceptable outcome and that is hoisting the Lombardi. Period.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#763 » by crkone » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:07 pm

Just need you to not crumble in the playoffs Rodgers

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#764 » by PintSizedBox10 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:07 pm

So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#765 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:11 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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Yep, thanks to this deal (and more than likely Adams deal) we will be hearing "tightwad Gute" talk for the next few years as we cut players and can't sign any free agents.......then we will lose playoff games and everyone will blame Gute for the holes at whatever position gets hit the worst.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#766 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:14 pm

Amazed that people are dunking on people over this. They were set up to win the last two years and kicked so much money down the street. They choked twice.

Long story short, there’s no way this team can bring the same level of talent back in the next 2-3 years but we somehow think they’re going to be a better team.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#767 » by th87 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:20 pm

Profound23 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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Yep, thanks to this deal (and more than likely Adams deal) we will be hearing "tightwad Gute" talk for the next few years as we cut players and can't sign any free agents.......then we will lose playoff games and everyone will blame Gute for the holes at whatever position gets hit the worst.


Rodgers deserves criticism if his deal is restrictive enough to prevent signing talent. If his legacy is important to him, he'd pull a Brady. Not sure what more money does for him at this point.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#768 » by Matches Malone » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:22 pm

th87 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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Yep, thanks to this deal (and more than likely Adams deal) we will be hearing "tightwad Gute" talk for the next few years as we cut players and can't sign any free agents.......then we will lose playoff games and everyone will blame Gute for the holes at whatever position gets hit the worst.


Rodgers deserves criticism if his deal is restrictive enough to prevent signing talent. If his legacy is important to him, he'd pull a Brady. Not sure what more money does for him at this point.


Pat is talking right now about speaking with Rodgers directly and saying this deal that's out there was possibly a deal presented to him but isn't the actual deal. And that the deal will be cap friendly to bring his friends back.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#769 » by GBPackers47 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:23 pm

This should be studied as one of the greatest negotiations in sports history from the player/agent side.

Damn well played by Rodgers.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#770 » by leroyjw10 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:24 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
th87 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:

Yep, thanks to this deal (and more than likely Adams deal) we will be hearing "tightwad Gute" talk for the next few years as we cut players and can't sign any free agents.......then we will lose playoff games and everyone will blame Gute for the holes at whatever position gets hit the worst.


Rodgers deserves criticism if his deal is restrictive enough to prevent signing talent. If his legacy is important to him, he'd pull a Brady. Not sure what more money does for him at this point.


Pat is talking right now about speaking with Rodgers directly and saying this deal that's out there was possibly a deal presented to him but isn't the actual deal. And that the deal will be cap friendly to bring his friends back.


Sounds like Rodgers is using his PR guy to make him look better.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#771 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:24 pm

Y'all are exhausting.

Bringing Rodgers back was 100% the right choice. He's back to back MVP. Stop it.

Drafting Love was arguably the right choice at the time. Rodgers was slumping bad the 2 years prior. Love for sure lit a fire under Rodgers.

Everyone always emphasizes we "traded up" to get Love. We traded a 4th round pick to move up. Who the hell cares.

Maybe Love will be good maybe he won't. But Rodgers is that dude.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#772 » by stillgotgame » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:25 pm

Matches Malone wrote:I hope they don't try and trade Love for a crappy pick. Might as well hold onto him and try and continue to develop him, unless he asks for a trade.


We can’t trade him anyways. He counts $6.5M against the cap if we trade him, $3.4M if he stays.

Let him stay and develop. Cap number is better next year and hopefully Jordan will be too.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#773 » by Turk Nowitzki » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:26 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:Well, this will definitely test my ability to separate the player from the person over the next 4 years.

I finally solved it this offseason. Something finally clicked and I broke any attachment I had outside of just winning football games. I was deep into the " **** Rodgers, if he's going to be a diva just get him out of here" stuff last time around. This time I have just completely avoided any Rodgers discourse at all. I don't care who is reporting what or what the rumors are about what Rodgers may or may not be thinking. I'm over his whole act but I enjoy the fact that he is really good at football and that's now all I care about. Fully realize that is harder for some people to do, it was hard for me up until recently.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#774 » by Ayt » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:26 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:This should be studied as one of the greatest negotiations in sports history from the player/agent side.

Damn well played by Rodgers.


It turns out a back to back MVP has a lot of leverage. Who knew?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#775 » by LUKE23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:27 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Y'all are exhausting.

Bringing Rodgers back was 100% the right choice. He's back to back MVP. Stop it.

Drafting Love was arguably the right choice at the time. Rodgers was slumping bad the 2 years prior. Love for sure lit a fire under Rodgers.

Everyone always emphasizes we "traded up" to get Love. We traded a 4th round pick to move up. Who the hell cares.

Maybe Love will be good maybe he won't. But Rodgers is that dude.

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Again, this is not just about Rodgers verses Love. Everyone knows Rodgers is better than Love. It's about what is the correct move for the future of the organization - Rodgers at the biggest contract in NFL history entering a season he turns 39, or multiple first round picks, young players, cap flexibility, and seeing what Love has (or drafting a new QB in 2023)?

I also urge you to look at Rodgers playoff game log lately. Regular season MVP is great and all, but when you are paid what he is at the age he is, there is only one outcome that matters - SB. And he needs to play a whole **** of a lot better for that to happen.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#776 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:28 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Amazed that people are dunking on people over this. They were set up to win the last two years and kicked so much money down the street. They choked twice.

Long story short, there’s no way this team can bring the same level of talent back in the next 2-3 years but we somehow think they’re going to be a better team.

Rude awakening incoming



I think so too.....ONLY chance we have is hitting on this draft and finding more gems like Rasul Douglas/Campbell. This season was basically a perfect storm. All of our WRs are free agents, TE coming off torn ACL.....and we will have to cut some guys. Of course, in two years Rodgers will then complain that we cut those guys, but it is the only way we can afford this deal imo.

I am guessing Amos and Z are gone....who else?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#777 » by GBPackers47 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:28 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Amazed that people are dunking on people over this. They were set up to win the last two years and kicked so much money down the street. They choked twice.

Long story short, there’s no way this team can bring the same level of talent back in the next 2-3 years but we somehow think they’re going to be a better team.

Rude awakening incoming


Why?

There are ways to improve your team without spending boat loads of money.

Here’s one: Don’t trade up for a QB in the first round and instead, take a high-potential skill player (even if you have to trade up) that our current HoF QB can build chemistry with over time, like he did with, oh idk, the now best WR is football that 90% of this fan base wanted to outright CUT as recently as 4 years ago.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#778 » by Matches Malone » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:28 pm

leroyjw10 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
th87 wrote:
Rodgers deserves criticism if his deal is restrictive enough to prevent signing talent. If his legacy is important to him, he'd pull a Brady. Not sure what more money does for him at this point.


Pat is talking right now about speaking with Rodgers directly and saying this deal that's out there was possibly a deal presented to him but isn't the actual deal. And that the deal will be cap friendly to bring his friends back.


Sounds like Rodgers is using his PR guy to make him look better.


If that were the case, then Rodgers would look worse then. He (Pat) pretty vehemently denied the contract report. So, I guess time will tell. I don't think Rodgers would bury Pat like that though.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#779 » by RRyder823 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:34 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
th87 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:

Yep, thanks to this deal (and more than likely Adams deal) we will be hearing "tightwad Gute" talk for the next few years as we cut players and can't sign any free agents.......then we will lose playoff games and everyone will blame Gute for the holes at whatever position gets hit the worst.


Rodgers deserves criticism if his deal is restrictive enough to prevent signing talent. If his legacy is important to him, he'd pull a Brady. Not sure what more money does for him at this point.


Pat is talking right now about speaking with Rodgers directly and saying this deal that's out there was possibly a deal presented to him but isn't the actual deal. And that the deal will be cap friendly to bring his friends back.
im sure it'll be "cap friendly" in year one. New contracts almost always are. Years 2.. 3... and 4 however I'd be doubtfully if Rodgers thinks that far ahead when it comes to getting his money

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns 

Post#780 » by Iheartfootball » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:35 pm

th87 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:So how will we field a competitive team now?

Fire Gute.

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Yep, thanks to this deal (and more than likely Adams deal) we will be hearing "tightwad Gute" talk for the next few years as we cut players and can't sign any free agents.......then we will lose playoff games and everyone will blame Gute for the holes at whatever position gets hit the worst.


Rodgers deserves criticism if his deal is restrictive enough to prevent signing talent. If his legacy is important to him, he'd pull a Brady. Not sure what more money does for him at this point.


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