2023 NFL Draft Thread - Round 1 Thursday 7:00 PM

[LittleRooster]

So let me posit this: Bijan is universally regarded as a top five played in this class, if not top three. If MLF is serious about running more AND Aaron Jones's contract makes it unlikely he's back in 2024, why not take Bijan at #15 (or trade up a few spots to get him)?

I think Bijan is going to be a great player, so while I wouldn’t totally hate it, we have bigger needs. I definitely wouldn’t trade up for him though


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[MVP2110]

Bijan is extremely talented, no chance I take him at 15. 45 you can sell me on and I'd almost never take a RB in R2. If you look at the rest of my RB rankings I have them very low for a reason

[ReasonablySober]

Bijan is extremely talented, no chance I take him at 15. 45 you can sell me on and I'd almost never take a RB in R2. If you look at the rest of my RB rankings I have them very low for a reason

What's the reason?

[stillgotgame]

Odds are you can get just as good a RB later in the draft as you can in the first round. Sequon was hyped like Bijan and was the #2 overall pick. However he hasn't been any better than Aaron Jones who we got in the 5th round. Also, RB are cheap and plentiful. There's no financial advantage by drafting an RB early. CB for example, are very expensive in the free agent market. Drafting a CB early becomes a big financial windfall - filling an expensive position with "cheap labor" on a rookie contract.

I like this guy. Same size as Bijan, and led the nation in TD runs with 20.

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[MVP2110]

Bijan is extremely talented, no chance I take him at 15. 45 you can sell me on and I'd almost never take a RB in R2. If you look at the rest of my RB rankings I have them very low for a reason

What's the reason?

Basically as stated above, you can find good RBs late, financially speaking drafting RBs early usually doesn't work out, and as a whole RBs don't bring nearly as much value as other positions

[ReasonablySober]

Odds are you can get just as good a RB later in the draft as you can in the first round. Sequon was hyped like Bijan and was the #2 overall pick. However he hasn't been any better than Aaron Jones who we got in the 5th round. Also, RB are cheap and plentiful. There's no financial advantage by drafting an RB early. CB for example, are very expensive in the free agent market. Drafting a CB early becomes a big financial windfall - filling an expensive position with "cheap labor" on a rookie contract.

I like this guy. Same size as Bijan, and led the nation in TD runs with 20.

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Would you rather have Jonathan Taylor or Eric Stokes?

[ReasonablySober]

All that matters is finding a good player. Josh Jacobs was a better pick than Deandre Baker, Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, Sean Murphy-Bunting, Trayvon Mullen, Joejuan Williams, Greedy Williams, and Lonnie Johnson Jr..

[MVP2110]

All that matters is finding a good player. Josh Jacobs was a better pick than Deandre Baker, Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, Sean Murphy-Bunting, Trayvon Mullen, Joejuan Williams, Greedy Williams, and Lonnie Johnson Jr..

Positional value is a real thing

[ReasonablySober]

All that matters is finding a good player. Josh Jacobs was a better pick than Deandre Baker, Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, Sean Murphy-Bunting, Trayvon Mullen, Joejuan Williams, Greedy Williams, and Lonnie Johnson Jr..

Positional value is a real thing

Not as much the further you get in the draft. A running back in the top five is a terrible investment. You're looking at $34 million last season. At #15 it's less than half that and now teams are paying below market.

[MVP2110]

All that matters is finding a good player. Josh Jacobs was a better pick than Deandre Baker, Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, Sean Murphy-Bunting, Trayvon Mullen, Joejuan Williams, Greedy Williams, and Lonnie Johnson Jr..

Positional value is a real thing

Not as much the further you get in the draft. A running back in the top five is a terrible investment. You're looking at $34 million last season. At #15 it's less than half that and now teams are paying below market.

I mean you're on the right path, positional value matters more early on, I remember reading basically any pick in the top 10 that isn't a QB provides negative value unless you get a HOF player. RBs are the most dramatic example of positional value. Even Jonathan Taylor is only worth a mid-late 1st and he is the best RB in football. Meaning if you took Bijan at 15 then at best you are coming up neutral value and that's if he hits his ceiling

[ReasonablySober]

Positional value is a real thing

Not as much the further you get in the draft. A running back in the top five is a terrible investment. You're looking at $34 million last season. At #15 it's less than half that and now teams are paying below market.

I mean you're on the right path, positional value matters more early on, I remember reading basically any pick in the top 10 that isn't a QB provides negative value unless you get a HOF player. RBs are the most dramatic example of positional value. Even Jonathan Taylor is only worth a mid-late 1st and he is the best RB in football. Meaning if you took Bijan at 15 then at best you are coming up neutral value and that's if he hits his ceiling

Yes, now you're getting it. Are you willing to bet that Jakorian Bennett, Eli Ricks, DJ Turner, and Julius Brents are going to be better picks than Bijan Robinson? Or even Jahmyr Gibbs?

[MVP2110]

Not as much the further you get in the draft. A running back in the top five is a terrible investment. You're looking at $34 million last season. At #15 it's less than half that and now teams are paying below market.

I mean you're on the right path, positional value matters more early on, I remember reading basically any pick in the top 10 that isn't a QB provides negative value unless you get a HOF player. RBs are the most dramatic example of positional value. Even Jonathan Taylor is only worth a mid-late 1st and he is the best RB in football. Meaning if you took Bijan at 15 then at best you are coming up neutral value and that's if he hits his ceiling

Yes, now you're getting it. Are you willing to bet that Jakorian Bennett, Eli Ricks, DJ Turner, and Julius Brents are going to be better picks than Bijan Robinson? Or even Jahmyr Gibbs?

Well considering I have Bijan ahead of all of those guys listed on my board that should answer your question. And I have Gibbs behind only 2 of those 4

[sdn40]

Scroll through the Super Bowl winners to see how important RB is.
Or simply google to find endless data showing why it's a horrible idea.
Or just use history
Najee Harris
Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Josh Jacobs
Saquon Barkley
Leonard Fournette
Ezekiel Elliott
Todd Gurley
Gio Bernard
Trent Richardson
Mark Ingram
CJ Spiller

[Ron Swanson]

I'm more against drafting RB's early because of their short shelf life, not because of positional value. We're getting to the point where people seem to think that there's only 3-4 positions you should ever draft in the first round though (offensive tackle, edge rusher, boundary corner), and I can't imagine any smart GM's actually think/operate that way.

[M-C-G]

Robinsons impact will probably be similar to a healthy Saquan or healthy CMC. If your talent eval process has him as that level of impact, go for it. He is a playmaking weapon in the running game but elite as a pass catcher as well. Dude is the best offensive weapon in the draft.

Giving your young QB the best weapon in the draft is worthy of a top 15 pick, but I agree generally speaking it isn’t a great position to draft early. I’d keep in mind he is only like 20 or 21, so this isn’t a Najee Harris situation where he is 24 when he starts his first game for you either.


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[Frank Nova]

Odds are you can get just as good a RB later in the draft as you can in the first round. Sequon was hyped like Bijan and was the #2 overall pick. However he hasn't been any better than Aaron Jones who we got in the 5th round. Also, RB are cheap and plentiful. There's no financial advantage by drafting an RB early. CB for example, are very expensive in the free agent market. Drafting a CB early becomes a big financial windfall - filling an expensive position with "cheap labor" on a rookie contract.

I like this guy. Same size as Bijan, and led the nation in TD runs with 20.

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Maybe this is me being a homer again but Israel is a monster. He’s super tough, super skilled and runs with a purpose.. He’s gonna be a steal if you can get him in the 3rd round or so.. Mark Ingram like.

[LUKE23]

I am normally on the don’t draft a running back train, but Bijan might be the best running back prospect since Peterson, and this draft is not littered with sure fire stars in the top 15. I wouldn’t kill Gute for that pick. He would be a massive weapon in our O.

[Frank Nova]

Eric Gray is a RB that could be a huge steal that isn’t getting a lot of attention. He’s very Aaron Jones esque. Doesn’t have the wiggle Jones has but he’s a real dual threat RB in a pseudo Marshall Faulk mold. He’s a little older at 23 already but I’d imagine he could step in as a rookie and be immediately effective, especially as a pass catching RB.

[LUKE23]

I'm still leaning one of the edges, Murphy, Van Ness, Smith in that order, or JSN, assuming nobody big slips. I absolutely do not want Branch, I just don't feel like he's worthy of a pick that high and it would be a complete need pick. I think edge is probably the best mix of BPA/need at our first round pick. I do think we can land a pretty damn good TE at 42 or 45.

[MVP2110]

I'm still leaning one of the edges, Murphy, Van Ness, Smith in that order, or JSN, assuming nobody big slips. I absolutely do not want Branch, I just don't feel like he's worthy of a pick that high and it would be a complete need pick. I think edge is probably the best mix of BPA/need at our first round pick. I do think we can land a pretty damn good TE at 42 or 45.

I would agree with this, unless JSN falls or we trade back, I'm looking at Edge or OT for our 1st. Think there will be quality guys at both spots worthy of our pick there.