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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#81 » by RiotPunch » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:35 am

Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara are two nice deep sleepers too if you go WR heavy early.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#82 » by Profound23 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:15 am

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Profound23 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Cook, Henry, Perkins, Powell, Anderson, Ware, Abdullah are all guys I think are going too low in a lot of mocks I've done.

Or double up on DeMarco and Gurley and figure WR out later. If Watkins can stay on the field, Gurley will benefit.


I draft Abdullah every year way too early and every year he goes down.

I will probably do it again this year because he is so talented.

Me too, me too.

He keeps falling so far back though, is a damn good player and will likely get a lot of work. I take that 6th round flyer pretty often.



Ironic that Arizona actually wanted Abdullah and they were pissed when Detroit drafted him. They then "settled" for David Johnson.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#83 » by Wiscfan92 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:05 pm

Unfortunately had to have a draft last week in one of the two leagues I'm in. This one doesn't have the most knowledgeable FF players, but I went with Brown as my first pick at 3.

QB: Luck/Carr (idk how I got both)
RB: Gurley/Lacy/Duke Johnson/J. Rodgers/D. Foreman
WR: Brown/Jeffery/Davante/Mike Wallace/Snead
TE: Doyle/J. Thomas
D: Hou

Feeling pretty good about the team.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#84 » by Lippo » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:06 pm

Rookie Draft Order
(0.5 PPR)
12 team / Auction / 3 year keeper
Start 1/3/3/1/1
so 72 RB's and WR's get drafted

1: Fournette
2: Cook
3: Mixon
4: McCaffrey
5: ?
6: ?

We have a lottery, but I should get the 5th...
WR's are cheap, so RB's are premium here.
I am leaning toward Kareem Hunt at 5, but who is your 6th pick?
6-10 IMO is a toss up.

My Rookie Draft BB is
1 Leonard Fournette
2 Joe Mixon
3 Dalvin Cook
4 Christian McCaffrey
5 Kareem Hunt
6 Alvin Kamara
7 Marlon Mack
8 Jamaal Williams
9 Joe Williams
10 Corey Davis
11 Zay Jones
12 Sam Perine
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#85 » by Profound23 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:15 pm

Lippo wrote:Rookie Draft Order
(0.5 PPR)
12 team / Auction / 3 year keeper
Start 1/3/3/1/1
so 72 RB's and WR's get drafted

1: Fournette
2: Cook
3: Mixon
4: McCaffrey
5: ?
6: ?

We have a lottery, but I should get the 5th...
WR's are cheap, so RB's are premium here.
I am leaning toward Kareem Hunt at 5, but who is your 6th pick?
6-10 IMO is a toss up.

My Rookie Draft BB is
1 Leonard Fournette
2 Joe Mixon
3 Dalvin Cook
4 Christian McCaffrey
5 Kareem Hunt
6 Alvin Kamara
7 Marlon Mack
8 Jamaal Williams
9 Joe Williams
10 Corey Davis
11 Zay Jones
12 Sam Perine


Depends who I get. If I end up with Spencer Ware, Hunt is high on my list. If I don't get Ware, he falls pretty far. Same with Gore/Mack.....Cook/Lamont Murray......Hill/Mixon......

If I am PPR give me McCaffrey, standard league I think he is being overvalued.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#86 » by Lippo » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:34 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Lippo wrote:Rookie Draft Order
(0.5 PPR)
12 team / Auction ($210) / 3 year keeper
Start 1/3/3/1/1
so 72 RB's and WR's get drafted

1: Fournette
2: Cook
3: Mixon
4: McCaffrey
5: ?
6: ?

We have a lottery, but I should get the 5th...
WR's are cheap, so RB's are premium here.
I am leaning toward Kareem Hunt at 5, but who is your 6th pick?
6-10 IMO is a toss up.

My Rookie Draft BB is
1 Leonard Fournette
2 Joe Mixon
3 Dalvin Cook
4 Christian McCaffrey
5 Kareem Hunt
6 Alvin Kamara
7 Marlon Mack
8 Jamaal Williams
9 Joe Williams
10 Corey Davis
11 Zay Jones
12 Sam Perine


Depends who I get. If I end up with Spencer Ware, Hunt is high on my list. If I don't get Ware, he falls pretty far. Same with Gore/Mack.....Cook/Lamont Murray......Hill/Mixon......

If I am PPR give me McCaffrey, standard league I think he is being overvalued.


The rookie draft is before the auction...
its .5ppr....Pretty sure I wont get a top 4 pick.. so no McCaffrey.
with this pick i'm looking for the next David Johnson.
Its a keeper league, rookies are 1-5$ where Bell's and Johnsons go for $70 in the auction.
I think Hunt/Williams have the ability to be RB2/RB3 now
I think Kamara/Mack are RB4/RB5 now, but possible RB1/RB2 next year.

Not sure why Mack is getting no respect, like 15-25 ranked rookie in most lists, loved him a USF and wanted him in GB, he seems in a great situation too.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#87 » by M-C-G » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:34 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Kareem Hunt and Alvin Kamara are two nice deep sleepers too if you go WR heavy early.


I'm also keeping an eye on Marlon Mack. Gore is ancient and Turbin is meh
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#88 » by M-C-G » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:36 pm

Lippo wrote:Rookie Draft Order
(0.5 PPR)
12 team / Auction / 3 year keeper
Start 1/3/3/1/1
so 72 RB's and WR's get drafted

1: Fournette
2: Cook
3: Mixon
4: McCaffrey
5: ?
6: ?

We have a lottery, but I should get the 5th...
WR's are cheap, so RB's are premium here.
I am leaning toward Kareem Hunt at 5, but who is your 6th pick?
6-10 IMO is a toss up.

My Rookie Draft BB is
1 Leonard Fournette
2 Joe Mixon
3 Dalvin Cook
4 Christian McCaffrey
5 Kareem Hunt
6 Alvin Kamara
7 Marlon Mack
8 Jamaal Williams
9 Joe Williams
10 Corey Davis
11 Zay Jones
12 Sam Perine



Man, missing out on the top 4 pick hurts a TON. Why do you have Perine so low? I could see him starting by mid year. Kamara is so buried, I'd knock him down a few spots.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#89 » by M-C-G » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:39 pm

Martellus Bennet, what round are you guys thinking for him? His ADP on espn is 96, making him TE #9, which seems nuts to me.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#90 » by RiotPunch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:12 pm

M-C-G wrote:Martellus Bennet, what round are you guys thinking for him? His ADP on espn is 96, making him TE #9, which seems nuts to me.

I have him as my TE7.

Gronk
Kelce
Olsen
Reed
Graham
Eifert
Marty

He certainly has the potential to be Top-3 though.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#91 » by Profound23 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:25 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Martellus Bennet, what round are you guys thinking for him? His ADP on espn is 96, making him TE #9, which seems nuts to me.

I have him as my TE7.

Gronk
Kelce
Olsen
Reed
Graham
Eifert
Marty

He certainly has the potential to be Top-3 though.



I probably put Ertz above him. I think Ertz is going to be the biggest beneficiary of the turnover in receivers in Philly. I don't think I end up with Bennett because as usual someone will overdraft him along with every other Packer.

I am guessing he is the 3rd or at worst 4th TE gone in my draft, 4th round. Too many other skilled players at other positions.

As far as tight ends, I think Austin Hooper makes a huge jump this year and he is basically undrafted. Also keeping my eye on Evan Engram just because he is a wideout being labeled TE. The only thing stopping him from having a Marques Colston fantasy impact is they have so many other WRs to share the ball with.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#92 » by RiotPunch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:29 pm

Profound23 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Martellus Bennet, what round are you guys thinking for him? His ADP on espn is 96, making him TE #9, which seems nuts to me.

I have him as my TE7.

Gronk
Kelce
Olsen
Reed
Graham
Eifert
Marty

He certainly has the potential to be Top-3 though.



I probably put Ertz above him. I think Ertz is going to be the biggest beneficiary of the turnover in receivers in Philly. I don't think I end up with Bennett because as usual someone will overdraft him along with every other Packer.

I am guessing he is the 3rd or at worst 4th TE gone in my draft, 4th round. Too many other skilled players at other positions.

As far as tight ends, I think Austin Hooper makes a huge jump this year and he is basically undrafted. Also keeping my eye on Evan Engram just because he is a wideout being labeled TE. The only thing stopping him from having a Marques Colston fantasy impact is they have so many other WRs to share the ball with.

Graham, Eifert, Marty, Ertz are all in the same zone for me. Agreed on Ertz though, he has the potential to be a stud this year.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#93 » by Profound23 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:15 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:I have him as my TE7.

Gronk
Kelce
Olsen
Reed
Graham
Eifert
Marty

He certainly has the potential to be Top-3 though.



I probably put Ertz above him. I think Ertz is going to be the biggest beneficiary of the turnover in receivers in Philly. I don't think I end up with Bennett because as usual someone will overdraft him along with every other Packer.

I am guessing he is the 3rd or at worst 4th TE gone in my draft, 4th round. Too many other skilled players at other positions.

As far as tight ends, I think Austin Hooper makes a huge jump this year and he is basically undrafted. Also keeping my eye on Evan Engram just because he is a wideout being labeled TE. The only thing stopping him from having a Marques Colston fantasy impact is they have so many other WRs to share the ball with.

Graham, Eifert, Marty, Ertz are all in the same zone for me. Agreed on Ertz though, he has the potential to be a stud this year.



Yeah, I agree they all go together, although I am not high on Eifert. I just feel if you are drafting with mostly Packer fans Marty is going to go higher than is worth it for me.

In my league I think:

Jordy and Aaron go 1st round
Davante goes 3rd round, maybe 2nd
Marty ends up 3rd round
Ty goes 4th round, maybe 3rd

Jordy is the only guy I would consider taking at those spots and that's assuming the I have the last spot and everyone drafted the exact 11 players I wanted over him. Davante as well, MAYBE at the end of the 3rd but the 35 players I like better than him would have to be gone. I rarely ever end up with Packers (unless picked up waiver wire) and usually win because of it. Last year was the exception where I got Jordy but that was because everyone was so scared off by the ACL injury.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#94 » by M-C-G » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:28 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:I have him as my TE7.

Gronk
Kelce
Olsen
Reed
Graham
Eifert
Marty

He certainly has the potential to be Top-3 though.



I probably put Ertz above him. I think Ertz is going to be the biggest beneficiary of the turnover in receivers in Philly. I don't think I end up with Bennett because as usual someone will overdraft him along with every other Packer.

I am guessing he is the 3rd or at worst 4th TE gone in my draft, 4th round. Too many other skilled players at other positions.

As far as tight ends, I think Austin Hooper makes a huge jump this year and he is basically undrafted. Also keeping my eye on Evan Engram just because he is a wideout being labeled TE. The only thing stopping him from having a Marques Colston fantasy impact is they have so many other WRs to share the ball with.

Graham, Eifert, Marty, Ertz are all in the same zone for me. Agreed on Ertz though, he has the potential to be a stud this year.


Hunter Henry and CJ Fedoriwicz are basically going undrafted too. I think I will go elite at TE or bargain shopping late in the draft.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#95 » by RiotPunch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:40 pm

M-C-G wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
Profound23 wrote:

I probably put Ertz above him. I think Ertz is going to be the biggest beneficiary of the turnover in receivers in Philly. I don't think I end up with Bennett because as usual someone will overdraft him along with every other Packer.

I am guessing he is the 3rd or at worst 4th TE gone in my draft, 4th round. Too many other skilled players at other positions.

As far as tight ends, I think Austin Hooper makes a huge jump this year and he is basically undrafted. Also keeping my eye on Evan Engram just because he is a wideout being labeled TE. The only thing stopping him from having a Marques Colston fantasy impact is they have so many other WRs to share the ball with.

Graham, Eifert, Marty, Ertz are all in the same zone for me. Agreed on Ertz though, he has the potential to be a stud this year.


Hunter Henry and CJ Fedoriwicz are basically going undrafted too. I think I will go elite at TE or bargain shopping late in the draft.

Yup. It's been Gronk in the 3rd or Henry late a lot for me.
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Re: 2017 FF Thread 

Post#96 » by Profound23 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:42 pm

M-C-G wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
Profound23 wrote:

I probably put Ertz above him. I think Ertz is going to be the biggest beneficiary of the turnover in receivers in Philly. I don't think I end up with Bennett because as usual someone will overdraft him along with every other Packer.

I am guessing he is the 3rd or at worst 4th TE gone in my draft, 4th round. Too many other skilled players at other positions.

As far as tight ends, I think Austin Hooper makes a huge jump this year and he is basically undrafted. Also keeping my eye on Evan Engram just because he is a wideout being labeled TE. The only thing stopping him from having a Marques Colston fantasy impact is they have so many other WRs to share the ball with.

Graham, Eifert, Marty, Ertz are all in the same zone for me. Agreed on Ertz though, he has the potential to be a stud this year.


Hunter Henry and CJ Fedoriwicz are basically going undrafted too. I think I will go elite at TE or bargain shopping late in the draft.


That is normally what I do unless I really have a strong feeling about a guy (this year Ertz) and he falls far enough. If Gronk, Kelce, or Olsen fall to me in the 3rd great......if not I can wait just like I do with QB.

Usually my first 9 picks are WR or RB unless someone crazy falls to me. They laugh at me every year because there is always like 4 or 5 rounds in a row of drafting RB's. That is because I will see a couple of combos like Doug Martin/J. Rodgers or Ware/Hunt fall way too far and have to take them both just to make sure.

Two years ago I took Freeman/Coleman and Chris Johnson/David Johnson, last year Foster/Ajayi and DeMarco/Henry

If one doesn't work out, the other usually does at some point in time. So I grab those guys while they are all going QB, TE, DEF because their OCD makes them feel like they need a complete roster. Sometimes they even draft a backup QB before I took my starter. So I end up with Matt Ryan in the 12th round and Hunter Henry in the 13th. This year it looks like David Carr/Austin Cooper.
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Post#97 » by Profound23 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:01 am

Done some mock drafts. Not sure if people are playing or serious but Zeke is still going WAY too high.

Sometimes over any combination of Ajayi, Freeman, Jordy, DeMarco, AJ Green, Jordan Howard. Too rich for my blood. I am hoping some team drafts him and starts out 0-4 or 1-5 and that way I don't have to worry about facing him in the playoffs.
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Post#98 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:52 pm

I have to declare my keeper today. Our draft is in a week. Leaning Melvin Gordon. My two other options are Jordy or "no keeper." Are we absolutely sold on Melvin Gordon? Why or why not? Thanks.
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Post#99 » by Lippo » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:52 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:I have to declare my keeper today. Our draft is in a week. Leaning Melvin Gordon. My two other options are Jordy or "no keeper." Are we absolutely sold on Melvin Gordon? Why or why not? Thanks.


Gordon is 6-9 for me
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Post#100 » by Lippo » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:56 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Lippo wrote:Rookie Draft Order
(0.5 PPR)
12 team / Auction / 3 year keeper
Start 1/3/3/1/1
so 72 RB's and WR's get drafted

1: Fournette
2: Cook
3: Mixon
4: McCaffrey
5: ?
6: ?

We have a lottery, but I should get the 5th...
WR's are cheap, so RB's are premium here.
I am leaning toward Kareem Hunt at 5, but who is your 6th pick?
6-10 IMO is a toss up.

My Rookie Draft BB is
1 Leonard Fournette
2 Joe Mixon
3 Dalvin Cook
4 Christian McCaffrey
5 Kareem Hunt
6 Alvin Kamara
7 Marlon Mack
8 Jamaal Williams
9 Joe Williams
10 Corey Davis
11 Zay Jones
12 Sam Perine



Man, missing out on the top 4 pick hurts a TON. Why do you have Perine so low? I could see him starting by mid year. Kamara is so buried, I'd knock him down a few spots.



I know, hoping Ty gets dinged up and the Jamaal Williams hype kicks in and some Homer takes him ahead of one of those 4.

Perine, don't know, hes had a bad camp, they like Fat Robb, He's like Alfred Morris/Stephen Davis all over again, they were nothing special but kept the job forever.
That and Thompson owns 3rd down there.

Kamara, yeah he won't start, but he could next year, and they score a lot, and even a 3rd down back there in NOLA can give RB3 value. Hearing a lot of good things about him as well, like Marshall Faulk comparisons.

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