2022 NFL Draft discussion

DrWood · Post #801 » by **DrWood** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:05 am

Today's Mock.
#38 Travis Jones, DT CONN
#50 Christian Watson, WR, NDS
#53 Trey McBride, TE, Col.St.
#60 Jalen Tolbert, WR S.Ala.
#62 Nick Cross, S, Maryl.
#64 Kingsley Enagbare, EDGE S.Car.
#75 Marcus Jones, CB, HOUS
#91 Jamaree Salyer, G/T GA
#96 Kahlil Shakir, WR Boise St.
#103 Kellen Diesch, T, ASU
#117 Romeo Doubs, WR, NEV

Post #802 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:43 pm

Don't know how much stock to put into these ESPN blurbs, because the Packers have notoriously kept things close to the vest, but

One thing I heard: Watch out for Green Bay, despite holding two first-round picks and needing to replace Davante Adams, potentially going a different direction and taking a Day 2 receiver, such as Baylor speedster Tyquan Thornton.

The Packers have had success drafting receivers in the second round -- Adams and Jordy Nelson, among others -- and perhaps they continue that tradition. They want to add that speed element to replace Marquez Valdes-Scantling, and the Packers believe Thornton has a high ceiling. He ran a 4.28-second 40-yard dash at the combine and acquitted himself well in interviews. The Saints also have spent a lot of time researching Thornton.

The Packers will get Aaron Rodgers pass-caching help somewhere in the draft, and other teams believe Green Bay could be a threat to move up for a blue-chip option. But that would stray from the Green Bay blueprint. -- Fowler

Another name I've heard the Packers have done a lot of work on is Virginia tight end Jelani Woods. Look, everybody wants the Packers to take a wide receiver in the first round -- something they've done only once since 1988. But they might also decide Woods is the better way to go because of his physical traits and upside.

The Packers, as much as any other team, view the draft from a long-term perspective and believe in their ability to develop players over time. -- Graziano

Georgia's George Pickens is a true outside X receiver who could rise into the late first round. He could also go deep into Day 2, due in part to off-the-field concerns. Pickens told me that he believes his range is Nos. 25 to 45, and the Packers, Chiefs and Cardinals are among teams that have done lots of homework on him.

Pickens told me he believes he's the draft's best wideout because "as a big target that can run 4.4 [40], I can do what [other receivers] can along with having size. ... When you can do all of those things [at 6-foot-3], it's a no-brainer."

Pickens says he takes pride in blocking, comes from a pro-style system at Georgia and has closely studied the greats, such as Davante Adams and Cooper Kupp.

Several NFL execs believe Pickens, on talent alone, would be talked about among the top five receivers, but teams have some concerns. Pickens was suspended for a half-game at Georgia and had a well-publicized fight with a Georgia Tech player in the end zone. He also tore his ACL last March and caught only five passes in 2021.

Pickens believes he has matured since that fight. "The internet can portray you in different ways, but seeing me in a different light, I believe teams were pleasantly surprised," Pickens said. "A lot of teams wanted to get to know me personally, so I took a few business trips and believe they saw that side of me." -- Fowler

LikeABosh · Post #803 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:19 pm

M-C-G · Post #804 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:22 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Don't know how much stock to put into these ESPN blurbs, because the Packers have notoriously kept things close to the vest, but

One thing I heard: Watch out for Green Bay, despite holding two first-round picks and needing to replace Davante Adams, potentially going a different direction and taking a Day 2 receiver, such as Baylor speedster Tyquan Thornton.

- Fowler

Another name I've heard the Packers have done a lot of work on is Virginia tight end Jelani Woods. . -- Graziano

Georgia's George Pickens is a true outside X receiver who could rise into the late first round. He could also go deep into Day 2, due in part to off-the-field concerns. Pickens told me that he believes his range is Nos. 25 to 45, and the Packers, r

Pickens, Woods and Thorton are three names that really intrigue me, glad to see them linked.

MVP2110 · Post #805 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:32 pm

My official prediction for this weekend

22. Dax Hill
28. Logan Hall
Trade up from 53 using a 4th. Alec Pierce
59. Trey Mcbride
92. Romeo Doubs
4th round. Zach Tom

Turk Nowitzki · Post #806 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:58 pm

I'm glad this is finally happening tomorrow. Tired of reading "rumors" that are really just a listing of every possible scenario the Packers could theoretically enact.

IrishRainbow · Post #807 » by **IrishRainbow** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:25 pm

I am 100% ready for commercials when the Packers are on the clock only to get back from commercial to see that they traded out of pick. Not convinced it doesn’t happen twice.

Post #808 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:55 pm

Treebeard · Post #809 » by **Treebeard** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:11 pm

^^^Whose mock(s) are they comparing against?

zmanishere11 · Post #810 » by **zmanishere11** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:22 pm

I would give up Love and our 22 pick for Kyle Pitts in about .02 seconds. Outside of something along those lines I don't see why we would trade Love this year.

M-C-G · Post #811 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:28 pm

zmanishere11 wrote:I would give up Love and our 22 pick for Kyle Pitts in about .02 seconds. Outside of something along those lines I don't see why we would trade Love this year.

All depends internally how long they realistically believe Rodgers plans to play. If you trade Love for a high second and lock up an OT for the next 7 years, I think you make that deal.

If he is 50/50 about playing after this season, yeah, I am probably holding.

TroyD92 · Post #812 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:04 pm

I'd trade love if they don't believe in him. Don't think its that complicated tbh

M-C-G · Post #813 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:23 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Don't think its that complicated tbh

Hall of fame QB with uncertain number of years in front of him with a massive salary cap, at odds with the GM, just lost his BFF WR, massive (possibly league setting) extensions for Jaire, Gary and Jenkins coming due, while being an awful cap situation, needing to make a decision on a 5th year option next season(I think), while trying to 'go for it' now, while Love hasn't really shown much including getting set back by a Covid year in which he wasn't active for a snap, with relatively unknown trade value in a market overpaying for mediocre QBs.

Not complicated.

XtremeDunkz · Post #814 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:34 pm

In a bad QB draft. You don't trade Love unless you get a great offer.

If not you hold. Hopefully he gets some time at some point this year and looks great. Then you reassess.

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TroyD92 · Post #815 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:24 pm

M-C-G wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Don't think its that complicated tbh

Hall of fame QB with uncertain number of years in front of him with a massive salary cap, at odds with the GM, just lost his BFF WR, massive (possibly league setting) extensions for Jaire, Gary and Jenkins coming due, while being an awful cap situation, needing to make a decision on a 5th year option next season(I think), while trying to 'go for it' now, while Love hasn't really shown much including getting set back by a Covid year in which he wasn't active for a snap, with relatively unknown trade value in a market overpaying for mediocre QBs.

Not complicated.

I mean i was referring to trading love or not. If the staff thinks he's the guy keep otherwise trade him.

TroyD92 · Post #816 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:25 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:In a bad QB draft. You don't trade Love unless you get a great offer.

If not you hold. Hopefully he gets some time at some point this year and looks great. Then you reassess.

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That's a big assumption isnt it? He's played some already and hasn't looked average let alone good. Do you just let his value degrade in hopes he plays like Matt Flynn for two games and a team might give you a 1st vs 2nd ?

MVP2110 · Post #817 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:50 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:

This is super interesting, so Gute tends to "reach" alot but for the most part it has worked out quite well

DrWood · Post #818 » by **DrWood** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:51 pm

MVP2110 wrote:My official prediction for this weekend

22. Dax Hill
28. Logan Hall
Trade up from 53 using a 4th. Alec Pierce
59. Trey Mcbride
92. Romeo Doubs
4th round. Zach Tom

I'd be happy with 4-5 of those guys, but think 3-4 of them can be gotten significantly later.

DrWood · Post #819 » by **DrWood** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:54 pm

IrishRainbow wrote:I am 100% ready for commercials when the Packers are on the clock only to get back from commercial to see that they traded out of pick. Not convinced it doesn’t happen twice.

my dream scenario.

MVP2110 · Post #820 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:15 pm

DrWood wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:My official prediction for this weekend

22. Dax Hill
28. Logan Hall
Trade up from 53 using a 4th. Alec Pierce
59. Trey Mcbride
92. Romeo Doubs
4th round. Zach Tom

I'd be happy with 4-5 of those guys, but think 3-4 of them can be gotten significantly later.

If you look at the chart posted above Gute quite often picks guys where the consensus is they can be had later