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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#881 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:20 pm

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I think Rodgers took that episode of Always Sunny to heart and used the DENNIS system against the team to get what he wanted.

D - Demonstrate Value
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N - Nuture Dependence
N - Neglect Emotionally
I - Inspire Hope
S - Seperate entirely

After D.E.N.N, Rodgers has now Inspired Hope. Lets just hope we get a ring or 2 before he Seperates Entirely.


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#882 » by JimmyTheKid » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:25 pm

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#883 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote: and high draft capital isn't as important as good scouting.


Wisconsin attorney Ed Garvey (RIP) used to be head of the NFL players union back in the day. I remember him always telling me that draft position in the NFL was almost meaningless. He kept pointing to the Rice/Montana/Young 49'ers who essentially never drafted high ever.

Of course at the time he was pushing to abolish the common draft, to give the players leverage to negotiate their own deals with any team they wanted. But his point was that NFL fans were being sold a bill of goods by the owners in regard to needing a draft to ensure that bad teams get high picks, allowing them to turn their franchises around.

No question he was right. The NFL is all about scouting.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#884 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:38 pm

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#885 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:41 pm

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Who is even good in the NFC?

Cowboys will be held back by McCarthy and Prescott. Neither Fields nor Lance are ready. Murray appears to have issues with KK.

I got the Rams, Vikings, and maybe 49ers as our competition. We've probably haven't had this good of a shot in years.


Still some moves to be made. Watson could end up in the NFC, but I would say you are discounting Fields and the Cardinals. Either way, the NFC is the weakest it has been in a long time. If we can't make the Superbowl, this will be another epic failure.


The Bears and Cardinals have shown almost nothing that says they're a threat


AZ looked like the team to beat until DHop went down.....then Murray got hurt. If those two stay healthy that team can take the NFC.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#886 » by Treebeard » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:50 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote: and high draft capital isn't as important as good scouting.


Wisconsin attorney Ed Garvey (RIP) used to be head of the NFL players union back in the day. I remember him always telling me that draft position in the NFL was almost meaningless. He kept pointing to the Rice/Montana/Young 49'ers who essentially never drafted high ever.

Of course at the time he was pushing to abolish the common draft, to give the players leverage to negotiate their own deals with any team they wanted. But his point was that NFL fans were being sold a bill of goods by the owners in regard to needing a draft to ensure that bad teams get high picks, allowing them to turn their franchises around.

No question he was right. The NFL is all about scouting.


True enough - about scouting. However, if you've got a number of teams with good scouting skills, then draft position does make a difference.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#887 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Mar 9, 2022 3:59 pm

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True enough - about scouting. However, if you've got a number of teams with good scouting skills, then draft position does make a difference.


The bottom teams usually all suck and have bad front offices. And for every Joe Burrow at #1 overall, you've got a Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Favre, etc. to counter balance it.

Someone should do a study of top ten QB's picked. My guess is that it is littered with busts. The only real correlation I've seen on draft position and high #1 picks is on the defensive line. That said, readily admit I haven't followed the draft much the past decade like I used to.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#888 » by raysbookclub » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:00 pm

The posts here are summing it up nicely for me. Yes, that package Denver sent Seattle would have been great. Add those picks and players to re-signing Campbell and maybe Preston, and we have a pretty talented team. An offense that is led by an unproven QB but a 1st-round pick who will be in his 3rd year. And an offense that's truly run-reliant, especially in Dec and Jan. And basically, just something new, after the fatigue of so many playoff exits with AR.

But, yes, this is a very sensible NFC window to keep AR. GB will be in everyone's top 3 NFC contenders. They'll probably be Vegas's favorite for the #1 seed in the NFC, esp if Aaron Donald retires or takes a year off.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#889 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:04 pm

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I don't think Rasul, Lazard or Benkert just realized this puts them out of a job in Green Bay yet. Hell, David could very well be a cap casualty hit next season.

I am saying that somewhat jokingly, because I think Rodgers is probably pretty popular in the locker room.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#890 » by ReddRum » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:17 pm

So realistically which of our free agents do you guys think we can afford and will end up resigning?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#891 » by raysbookclub » Wed Mar 9, 2022 4:43 pm

ReddRum wrote:So realistically which of our free agents do you guys think we can afford and will end up resigning?


Campbell should be a priority, though don't know what his contract will be.

I could see a restructure/extension for Preston.

I could see a RFA tender for Lazard and then maybe a restructure once he signs, like they did with Tonyan.

Nijman is also RFA, expect he'll be back too.

Tonyan off the ACL should be sign-able.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#892 » by ReddRum » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:00 pm

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ReddRum wrote:So realistically which of our free agents do you guys think we can afford and will end up resigning?


Campbell should be a priority, though don't know what his contract will be.

I could see a restructure/extension for Preston.

I could see a RFA tender for Lazard and then maybe a restructure once he signs, like they did with Tonyan.

Nijman is also RFA, expect he'll be back too.

Tonyan off the ACL should be sign-able.



I agree with all of that, I think I heard Campbell will get around $10 million per so not sure how realistic that would be? Maybe he would sign for a slight discount for a better chance to win a Super Bowl now that we resigned Rodgers and Adams.

I think Tonyan is our best bet on a reasonable deal at TE although I think we definitely need to draft one high...

Russell Gage is a guy I would take a hard look at to become our #2 WR and then keep Lazard at #3 where he belongs. Not sure what Gage will demand...

I think Rasul Douglas is as good as gone.

Definitely would like to keep Preston Smith on a reasonable deal.

Dean Lowry and Amos are the other big ones. Would love to have both of them back obviously but again I don't know how much cap space we can free up for all these guys.

Then there is the talk about Von Miller which might be a pipe dream, he will be demanding around $11 million per...

Gute is going to be one busy dude in the next week here...
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#893 » by Frank Nova » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:12 pm

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I think Rodgers took that episode of Always Sunny to heart and used the DENNIS system against the team to get what he wanted.

D - Demonstrate Value
E - Engage Physically
N - Nuture Dependence
N - Neglect Emotionally
I - Inspire Hope
S - Seperate entirely

After D.E.N.N, Rodgers has now Inspired Hope. Lets just hope we get a ring or 2 before he Seperates Entirely.


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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#894 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:18 pm

Not sure what Ertz would cost to get here, but if we can free up some money he would be a good add.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#895 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:25 pm

It's really impossible to say who can or should be back until Rodgers and Adams' deals are in the can.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#896 » by MoMM » Wed Mar 9, 2022 5:32 pm

When should we get the full details of Rodgers deal?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#897 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:11 pm

I would take Campbell over Douglas if a choice had to be made. We've been searching for a good inside LB forever. If Stokes keeps progressing we have him and Jaire. Certainly another quality CB is always needed but I have a feeling Douglas may not repeat the 1/2 season he had with us wherever he ends up.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#898 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:14 pm

MoMM wrote:When should we get the full details of Rodgers deal?

You have to be under the cap by 3/16, which is when FA starts (you can start talking to FA on 3/14 but not sign anyone until 3/16).

Rodgers and Adams deals will have to be done before then to get under the cap. An Alexander extension probably by then as well (hopefully). They also have to decide on guys like the Smith brothers. Restructure, cut, whatever.

So many moving pieces. Russ Ball is earning his paycheck this month.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#899 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:21 pm

M-C-G wrote:Not sure what Ertz would cost to get here, but if we can free up some money he would be a good add.
I'd rather just keep Lazard, him and Ertz basically play the same position.

If Lazard was labeled a TE I wonder if he would make more money in FA this off-season.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Rodgers Returns; Adams Tagged 

Post#900 » by LikeABosh » Wed Mar 9, 2022 6:41 pm

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Still some moves to be made. Watson could end up in the NFC, but I would say you are discounting Fields and the Cardinals. Either way, the NFC is the weakest it has been in a long time. If we can't make the Superbowl, this will be another epic failure.


The Bears and Cardinals have shown almost nothing that says they're a threat


AZ looked like the team to beat until DHop went down.....then Murray got hurt. If those two stay healthy that team can take the NFC.


I sleep. With the Bucs likely out of the picture, Rams are the only team we know is a serious contender. Who's to say we actually take advantage of that tho

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