2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Cut Day Saturday

[MAC1987]

I think the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

Well it's not in this situation. It's pretty clear the GM, coaches, and front office screwed up very badly. That's putting it lightly.

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[humanrefutation]

I don't believe Rodgers on everything he said. Dunne went on Le Batard last week and was pretty firm in his sourcing. But I take the Jennings and Finley stuff with a grain of salt. Jennings, in particular, has been talking **** about Rodgers since he left GB.

[Swan Vox]

Cole Madison is back, good to see.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/08/g-cole-madison-reinstated-to-packers-roster/

[ReasonablySober]

I don't believe Rodgers on everything he said. Dunne went on Le Batard last week and was pretty firm in his sourcing. But I take the Jennings and Finley stuff with a grain of salt. Jennings, in particular, has been talking **** about Rodgers since he left GB.

There are a lot of ex-Packers out there with nothing to lose by putting their name behind a quote. When Jennings and Finley are all you've got, it's a red-flag.

[HaroldinGMinor]

I don't think Dunne made anything up and by that I mean his sources said what they said. But it didn't seem to me like he went out of his way to find sources that supported the other side. Using Jennings and Finley as your main quote machines was really dumb way to go, IMO.

[neiLz]

So how does the Cole Madison return affect the packers? They signed Turner to be a swing o-lineman possibly starting at rg. Madison is like an extra pick this year. I've seen some mocks where threy take a olineman early. Do they still do this?

[HaroldinGMinor]

So how does the Cole Madison return affect the packers? They signed Turner to be a swing o-lineman possibly starting at rg. Madison is like an extra pick this year. I've seen some mocks where threy take a olineman early. Do they still do this?

Madison has been out of football for a year. He's never practiced in pads in the NFL. I think you hope he can be a backup and consider it a huge win if he can actually play in games. At least they get to see him for a few weeks before the draft. I don't think it stops them from taking an OLineman.

[Treebeard]

So how does the Cole Madison return affect the packers? They signed Turner to be a swing o-lineman possibly starting at rg. Madison is like an extra pick this year. I've seen some mocks where threy take a olineman early. Do they still do this?

I'd bet while they're tickled pink to have him back on board, they're also a bit concerned about the durability of his commitment at this point. He probably still has a lot on his plate. Without first-hand knowledge of this young man, I'd think they'd take BPA, and deal with Madison as a freebie. If he comes to camp and excels, it's a win all the way across.

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[crkone]

So how does the Cole Madison return affect the packers? They signed Turner to be a swing o-lineman possibly starting at rg. Madison is like an extra pick this year. I've seen some mocks where threy take a olineman early. Do they still do this?

I'd bet while they're tickled pink to have him back on board, they're also a bit concerned about the durability of his commitment at this point. He probably still has a lot on his plate. Without first-hand knowledge of this young man, I'd think they'd take BPA, and deal with Madison as a freebie. If he comes to camp and excels, it's a win all the way across.

I also wonder if he has kept his weight up or kept in somewhat shape. Shouldn't take too long to get in shape by training camp though.

[JimmyTheKid]

Rodgers coming out pretty strongly against the report. Rightly points out that it's the same two guys who always attack him.

Exactly. And not just as simple as a case of "different people have different opinions." To ignore where the noise is coming from, and always comes from, is to stick your head in the sand. If anything, all of this support from former players has made Rodgers look better, not worse, since the Dunne story surfaced.

[Kerb Hohl]

This is all correct except for the Thompson part. He was fine until 2013/2014 or so. Not only did his drafting begin to suck after that, but the cap bumped up and took his militant "draft and develop [only]" from "good but slightly flawed" to "flawed."

McCarthy is not a special coach but was a solid offensive coach until shortly after the Super Bowl. But "game passed him by years ago" is pretty accurate of that.

Ted also allowed Capers to stay on to long and seemed oblivious to the issues involving his head coach and QB. His job wasn't just to add talent to the roster. He had full authority over everything and at the same time Ted got worse at adding talent, it sure looks like his head was buried deep in the sand over what was happening with the coaching situation in general, along with the relationship between McCarthy and Rodgers.

A lot of that is also on Murphy (McCarthy and Rodgers).

What can Ted do? As much as it might have made sense to fire McCarthy in 2013 or 2014, it wasn't happening because nobody hires a recent Super Bowl coach that just went 15-1 even if you know deep down that he sucks with the way public reaction/perception is. And if it was going to happen, the de facto owner, Murphy, is going to have to put his balls on the line to make it happen. That's the one thing with a public team is that you don't get some crazy owner that is ready to do the right thing and end the bad coach/QB marriage.

Capers, yeah he should've been gone earlier...again, though, once we hit Ted's senility stage, all bets were off.

[M-C-G]

I don't believe Rodgers on everything he said. Dunne went on Le Batard last week and was pretty firm in his sourcing. But I take the Jennings and Finley stuff with a grain of salt. Jennings, in particular, has been talking **** about Rodgers since he left GB.

There are a lot of ex-Packers out there with nothing to lose by putting their name behind a quote. When Jennings and Finley are all you've got, it's a red-flag.

I think there is a little something there, mostly the way that Donald Driver and Randall Cobb have dodged around questions about Rodgers in the past. I mean, Rodgers is kind of an ass, we all know that, it shouldn't surprise anyone that a guy who is aloof and egotistical might rub people the wrong way.

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Janis is one guy that I would have figured would talk **** about Rodgers. Good to see.

[Iheartfootball]

I think the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

Well it's not in this situation. It's pretty clear the GM, coaches, and front office screwed up very badly. That's putting it lightly.

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There is certainly blame to go around. Absolving Rodgers would be a mistake. There are certainly more effective ways to carry yourself on the field.

[crkone]

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But I mean Rodgers could be a bit nicer to his teammates...

[M-C-G]

But I mean Rodgers could be a bit nicer to his teammates...

I don't think I have ever seen anyone question his toughness, his skill or his competitiveness. They are all top notch, but we don't need to pretend he can be off putting to some people, do we?

[MAC1987]

I think the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

Well it's not in this situation. It's pretty clear the GM, coaches, and front office screwed up very badly. That's putting it lightly.

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There is certainly blame to go around. Absolving Rodgers would be a mistake. There are certainly more effective ways to carry yourself on the field.

Yea I agree he could have acted differently. But to put equal blame on AROD seems silly.

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[crkone]

But I mean Rodgers could be a bit nicer to his teammates...

I don't think I have ever seen anyone question his toughness, his skill or his competitiveness. They are all top notch, but we don't need to pretend he can be off putting to some people, do we?

Should we care that he's "off-putting"? "He's a once in a lifetime talent!" "Yeah, but I heard he doesn't talk to his parents enough"

[Kerb Hohl]

But I mean Rodgers could be a bit nicer to his teammates...

I don't think I have ever seen anyone question his toughness, his skill or his competitiveness. They are all top notch, but we don't need to pretend he can be off putting to some people, do we?

Should we care that he's "off-putting"? "He's a once in a lifetime talent!" "Yeah, but I heard he doesn't talk to his parents enough"

I used to shoo this stuff away, but there will be (maybe not anymore given only like 5 years left) when any player with a long career has a **** teammate or coach.

I don't think Rodgers is diva-level WR caliber team-wrecker, but a good quality is being able to get past that ****. Now, by most accounts, they weren't an atrocious team, but if any of this is true because of Rodgers' personality...yes, TT/Murphy should've acted on various things...but a great quality is being able to work past that.

I'm in the camp that Rodgers is like #3 or #4 on the list of problems we had, but if we lose a game here or there or a few teammates are alienated because of him -- that's not good.

A-Rod's the only one left (other than Murphy). If LaFleur is a good coach if any of this article about Rodgers' personality is true, we still have to be concerned that somewhere along the line, Rodgers can screw it up.