McNabb to Skins

[Kerb Hohl]

Speculation and rumor on all the major sites.

Discuss.

[ReasonablySober]

#37 and a 3rd or 4th next season //thisIsMyShockedFace

[chuckleslove]

That definitely seems like more than most of the other teams were saying they were going to offer, pretty high second round pick and another pick next year.

Surprised they would trade him within the division but at the same time I wish TT would have pulled something like this to trade Favre to the Vikings and get more than we got from the Jets.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Major stun that they traded him within the division. Looks like the Skin-Eages games just got a lot more interesting.

EDIT: Also, I've got to believe the Redskins are going to give McNabb some kind of extension. There's no way you can give up a 2nd and 3rd/4th to rent him for one season.

[humanrefutation]

I've always thought McNabb was overrated, and I don't think he'll make the Skins better, so I like this move for the Eagles. They got more in return that I thought they'd get, and they didn't trade him to a super bowl contender (ahem, Vikings, ahem).

If Favre doesn't return, the Vikings are screwed.

[Kerb Hohl]

Major stun that they traded him within the division. Looks like the Skin-Eages games just got a lot more interesting.

Not too much more interesting considering TV-wise every god damned NFC East intra-division matchup has one on prime time and the other as the featured late afternoon game.

But you're right.

EDIT: Also, I've got to believe the Redskins are going to give McNabb some kind of extension. There's no way you can give up a 2nd and 3rd/4th to rent him for one season.

Yeah. This is what I like. Oakland/Buffalo might have sucked because chances are he'd bolt and the Queens could have signed him after Brent retires next offseason. I'm assuming he'll sign one with the Skins and that takes one of the competent QBs off the market sending the Queens searching for a young one that they'll have to waste a few years bringing up to speed after this year of Brent.

[ReasonablySober]

I don't know how you can say he won't make the Skins better. McNabb isn't all-world, but he's light years better than Jason Campbell. He's going to add a new dimension to that offense and I think this trade immediately makes them a contender in the division.

[humanrefutation]

I don't know how you can say he won't make the Skins better. McNabb isn't all-world, but he's light years better than Jason Campbell. He's going to add a new dimension to that offense and I think this trade immediately makes them a contender in the division.

Well, let me back up for a second. I think he'll make them better, I just don't think they'll become a Super Bowl contender with him.

The performance disparity between McNabb and Campell isn't as great as you make it seem.

Campell: 86.4 QB Rating, 65% Completions, 20TDs, 15INTs, 3620yds.
McNabb: 92.9 QB Rating, 59% Completions, 22TDs, 10INTs, 3550yds.

Campbell had Moss, Randle El, and Fred Davis as his top receivers with a crappy running game.
McNabb had Jackson, Celek, Avant, and Maclin as his top receivers with a better running game.

McNabb just isn't that much better than Campbell, and he's going to a worse team next season. I don't think it's that big of an improvement for the Skins.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

I think the Eagles are going to regret sending him to a division rival. I think this is slightly different then the BrINT situation. Hindsight is 20/20, but yeah TT probably should have traded BrINT to the Queens. BrINT was dead set on finding a way to Minnesota, it was the only team he wanted to play for. McNabb on the other hand wasn't trying to get to another team within the division, the Eagles could have easily made sure they weren't going to have to face him. Although from a Packers standpoint it is nice to know that the Vikes have one less QB to go after if BrINT doesn't come back.

I think the Redskins might be having a pretty underrated off season. They finally have a legit QB (I don't care what anyone says McNabb>Campbell) and they have a pretty ridiculous (albeit aging) three headed ground game with Portis, LJ, and Willie Parker. Throw in Shanahan and that seems to be a pretty good off season. They'll be interesting to follow for sure. Unless Kolb goes Aaron Rodgers and performs extremely well in his first year, I think the Eagles finish 4th in the division.

Edit: I'm not saying the Redskins are going to be contending. I do think they have moved ahead of Philadelphia and have an outside shot at winning the division. I'd put Dallas #1 with NYG and Philly right behind them.

[El Duderino]

I think Campbell can become a quality NFL QB if he ever gets to a more stable team that doesn't change offenses every year and the team has a good QB coach.

[Mags FTW]

The performance disparity between McNabb and Campell isn't as great as you make it seem.

Campell: 86.4 QB Rating, 65% Completions, 20TDs, 15INTs, 3620yds.
McNabb: 92.9 QB Rating, 59% Completions, 22TDs, 10INTs, 3550yds.

McNabb played 2 fewer games.

[humanrefutation]

The performance disparity between McNabb and Campell isn't as great as you make it seem.

Campell: 86.4 QB Rating, 65% Completions, 20TDs, 15INTs, 3620yds.
McNabb: 92.9 QB Rating, 59% Completions, 22TDs, 10INTs, 3550yds.

McNabb played 2 fewer games.

Sure, so bump up the yards, TDs and INT numbers. His rating and completion % wouldn't have changed much, though. He's got the better weapons and O-line, though, so if you adjust for that, Campbell still isn't that much worse than McNabb.

I think Campbell can become a quality NFL QB if he ever gets to a more stable team that doesn't change offenses every year and the team has a good QB coach.

I agree completely.

[MikeIsGood]

No in-depth analysis at 3:30 in the morning, but I really think this could end up being a win-win trade. We'll see, I guess.

[Sauce Boss]

Campbell needs out of there, i think the Bills would be a good spot. He has ability and can be a solid starter, but I just don't know if he is a "winner". Something about composure, McNabb seems to always keep himself together and consistently lead the Eagles to the playoffs as a team leader. I just don't know if Campbell has that same composure or that he can ever be the leader that a qb has to be to win it all.....

[Newz]

I'm just happy he didn't end up with the Vikings. Stay retired, Brent... We need us some T-Jax and Sage Rosenfels.

[Shoot it FatBoy]

For all the fantasy football nerds like myself. What kind of season do you expect out of Kolb? I'm thinking he might be a good sleeper pick and could put up a similar first season to Rodgers in 2008. The two games he played this year he hooked up with DJAX twice for long TD's if I remember correctly. Any thoughts or predictions?

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

For all the fantasy football nerds like myself. What kind of season do you expect out of Kolb? I'm thinking he might be a good sleeper pick and could put up a similar first season to Rodgers in 2008. The two games he played this year he hooked up with DJAX twice for long TD's if I remember correctly. Any thoughts or predictions?

I was thinking the same thing. I'd love to get him as a back up. I usually try to get a young up and comer with upside as my 2nd QB. The only year I drafted Brady was the year he went down for the year in the first week, luckily I drafted Phillip Rivers as my back up.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Brent Celek had his biggest games for me this past season when Kolb started, who looked his way a ton.

[El Duderino]

I'm just happy he didn't end up with the Vikings. Stay retired, Brent... We need us some T-Jax and Sage Rosenfels.

That's all i cared about with McNabb, that he didn't end up getting traded to the Vikings. He should have 3-4 quality to solid years left and i didn't want Minnesota getting a solution to the QB situation for multiple seasons. I hope Brett doesn't com back, but if he does, i doubt he can be productive beyond the upcoming season.

[TheMadMongoose]

I know the fans didn't respect him, but wow... To trade him not only in conference, but in the division... I know he gets banged up a lot, but he never had a running game. Philly has balls.