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Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:55 pm
by chuckleslove
I know nothing about this guy other than he needs a thread :P

Re: Packers 2st Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:56 pm
by Newz
I'm so stun I don't even know if I am stun.

Re: Packers 2st Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:56 pm
by ReasonablySober
Newz wrote:I'm so stun I don't even know if I am stun.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:57 pm
by wichmae
Mike Neal (DT)

*Height:
6'3"
*Weight:
294 lbs.
*Arm Length:
33 1/2 in.
*Hand Size:
10 1/4 in.
*College:
Purdue
*Conference:
Big 10

Bench Press
31.0 reps

Overview

Neal is an average sized interior lineman that will need to play a three technique in a 4-3 defensive scheme. Neal is a tough hard-nosed lineman that gives consistent effort throughout the game. He doesn’t have elite size and is inconsistent to anchor versus double teams but can hold the point when he plays with good pad level. Neal has active hands and does a nice job to shed blockers. He is active in the tackle box showing good lateral quickness and agility but doesn’t have great range to the sideline. He can power rush effectively but needs to expand his moves and counters to contribute consistently at the next level. Neal is a good football player that has some limitations but should contribute in his rookie season and possibly work into a starting role.

Strengths
Neal has really active hands that never stop working. He exhibits notable leadership qualities. Has the instincts necessary to diagnose and find the football. Does a good job pushing the pocket with his power rush. Has good lateral agility. Plays with a relentless motor.
Weaknesses
Neal only has average range and won’t consistently track down plays to the outside. Has a narrow base and isn’t always capable on anchoring and holding up at the point of attack. As a three technique, needs to expand and broaden his pass rush package.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:57 pm
by Ayt
Play him at OLB.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:58 pm
by LarryHarris
What in the hell do we need this guy for. Even if this guy and Bulaga help, all they do is add depth. It is DUMB to add depth when their are players available who can fill positions of need. Thompson must be drunk.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:59 pm
by Profound23
Ranked as the 15th best DT and a late 3rd round pick by Kiper

ouch

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:59 pm
by crkone
http://www.post-trib.com/sports/2187098 ... 22.article

Mike Neal was 6-foot-3 and a skinny 195 pounds after his sophomore year at Merrillville when he received the dreaded either/or proposition from basketball coach Jim East.

Play basketball or football -- one or the other but not both.

Neal, who had started on the freshman and junior varsity teams, didn't like the terms of that deal at all.

Problem was, he really saw himself as a basketball player.

He had only gone out for football his freshman year because his buddy, Sean Kinsey, had talked him into it. He played tight end and defensive end his first year but he barely got on the field.

"I wanted to be a basketball player growing up," he said. "I wanted to be Kobe Bryant. I always thought of myself as a basketball player. I knew I needed to get bigger or I was going to get killed."

The take-it-or-leave-it deal rubbed Neal the wrong way so he went all in -- for football.

Turns out, Neal made the right call.

The 6-31/2, 297-pound defensive tackle from Purdue will likely have his name called Friday in either the second or third round of the NFL draft.

Neal is universally ranked as one of the 15 best defensive linemen in the draft. Some analysts have him pegged as being in the top 10.

Neal, who claims no rooting bias for any team because he really didn't watch football as a kid, doesn't care where he plays.

He's just happy that he'll get to work as a professional football player.

"Money doesn't have a name on it," he said. "I'll go wherever they pay me."

It's all emotional and syrupy and sweet for Mike Neal, Sr., a hulking Gary fireman who played at Lew Wallace and Weber State. Neal spent an excruciating day waiting for his name to be called during the draft. It never happened though he was invited to the Giants camp.

"It's so exciting," the elder Neal said. "It's awesome."

He remembers when Mike Jr. was 11, playing Pop Warner and there was a pile up with Mike at the bottom.

"Hey, they're not supposed to do that," Mike told his dad.

"This is football son," he told him.

Little Mike had one little tear welling up in the corner of his eye.

He claims it was a bead of sweat.

Early injury woes

The book on Neal and his NFL potential was a work-in-progress until this season ended.

An all-state player at Merrillville his senior year after recording 59 tackles (12 sacks), his coach Jeff Yelton knew then that his potential was unlimited.

At 6-3, 245, Neal had barely tapped his limits in terms of his size and skills.

"I figured if he kept growing and maturing that he could play at the next level," Yelton said.

He struggled with injuries in each of his first three seasons that caused him to have three separate surgeries that he calls minor.

Neal doesn't like to talk about them, saying they didn't affect his play. Yelton believes fighting through the injuries was huge for Neal because it showed his will to improve.

"That was critical for him," Yelton said.

Still, he didn't produce at a consistently high level until the 2008 season, when he finished with 51/2 sacks and 10 tackles for losses.

Last year, after being called "dominant" and the "strongest player on the team" by former defensive line coach Terrell Williams, Neal finished the season with 51/2 sacks and 111/2 tackles for losses.

Neal's value really sky rocketed after the season ended when he played in the East-West Shrine game and then the Senior Bowl.

"My performance at the East-West Shrine game definitely created some buzz and elevated my stock," Neal said. "The combine also helped too."

Neal can bench over 500 pounds. What really turned some heads was when he ran a 4.85 in the 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. (He said he's run as low as 4.79 on his own).

"That's the fastest time out there for a guy that weighs 297 pounds," his agent, Roosevelt Barnes, said.

Barnes, who obviously has a rooting interest in where his client is picked, said he only sees two guys on the board that are clearly better than Neal -- Ndamukong Suh of Nebraska and Geral McCoy of Oklahoma.

Waiting for the call

Neal has had one private work-out with New England.

The Patriots, who have three picks in the second round -- the 44th, 47th and 53rd, ran him through an intense, confusing 45-minute practice to test his mental and physical makeup for the game.

He has avoided all the internet reports and projections about where he might go in the draft because he realizes there is a trail of misinformation out there about who is going to where.

"I don't have a clue of what any general manager is really thinking," he said.

Instead, he plans to spend a quiet evening at home with his parents and his brother Matt, who is about the same size as Mike and who also happens to be a college prospect after playing on the defensive line for the Pirates last year. Mike Sr. said they'll probably play dominoes and wait for the phone call.

"It's going to be an emotional day for me, " he said. "It's so surreal just being in this situation. This is a dream that not too many people realize."

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:01 am
by LarryHarris
I'm really disgusted by this pick, makes me just not want to watch the rest of the draft, when Thompson is doing idiotic stuff like this...

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:02 am
by Simulack
Profound23 wrote:Ranked as the 15th best DT and a late 3rd round pick by Kiper

ouch


Yeah, CBS has him as a 5th rounder and the 168th best prospect. I don't know anything about him to have an opinion either way.

Let's pray he can rush the quarterback? :dontknow:

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:04 am
by xTitan
Team have got to be drooling at the thought of carving up the sorry pass defense....

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:05 am
by xTitan
down lineman in a 3-4 rarely put a lot of pressure on the QB.....need your edge guys to do it...typical workout warrior...Ted got hard watching him at the Senior bowl.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:06 am
by Buck You
Regarded by many as the strongest and most dominant defensive lineman to wear a Boilermakers uniform since Jeff Zgonina in 1992, he holds several team weight records, boasting a 510-pound bench press, a 615-pound squat, a 385- pound clean.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:06 am
by Bernman
Simulack wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Ranked as the 15th best DT and a late 3rd round pick by Kiper

ouch


Yeah, CBS has him as a 5th rounder and the 168th best prospect. I don't know anything about him to have an opinion either way.

Let's pray he can rush the quarterback? :dontknow:


"Above Average Pass Rusher" and "can penetrate and make plays in the backfield" according to Scott Wright:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingR ... e-Neal.php

I guess I understand where they're coming from wanting a guy at DE with the quickness to get around the edge but also the strength to hold a couple blockers.....but you need the rush OLB to compliment him still.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:08 am
by El Duderino
Hopefully Neal develops into a player, but DE sure didn't seen a need area unless we lose either Jolly or Jenkins after the season. Before this pick at DE we already had

Jenkins/Jolly/Raji/Wynn and a remote chance that Harrell is healthy and can play

Oh well, i'd have preferred a OLB or someone in the secondary, but hopefully this guy amounts to something.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:12 am
by Newz
Well I liked the Bulaga pick, I can't say I like this one. I didn't see us selecting a DE until later in the draft, if at all.

I guess if he's a player, he's a player though. Hopefully he can become a disruptive force.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:13 am
by wichmae
will reserve pure judgment until I see him on the field. Would have liked to have Campbell or Griffen but if the guy can do his job its going to free up more rushing off the edge.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:15 am
by ReddRum
LarryHarris wrote:I'm really disgusted by this pick, makes me just not want to watch the rest of the draft, when Thompson is doing idiotic stuff like this...


The thing about the NFL draft is that all the scouts make up their mock draft, and certain names get a lot of hype and media time and others simply don't. It's way too early to be pissed about a pick TT has made. Prime example - I had never heard of Jennings before he was drafted and now he is a top 10 receiver in the NFL. Give the guy a chance first - I do understand why you are pissed because I used to get pissed just like you are. These guys know what they are doing, its their job to find talent and I'm sure they wouldnt have picked this guy in the 2nd round without doing hours and hours of research on him. Just relax

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:15 am
by Ayt
El Duderino wrote:Hopefully Neal develops into a player, but DE sure didn't seen a need area unless we lose either Jolly or Jenkins after the season. Before this pick at DE we already had

Jenkins/Jolly/Raji/Wynn and a remote chance that Harrell is healthy and can play

Oh well, i'd have preferred a OLB or someone in the secondary, but hopefully this guy amounts to something.


I think it's a near certainty Jolly is gone and Jenks will be 30 after next season.

Who knows. I'm surprisingly ambivalent about the draft this year. I'll be more interested in seeing how our roster looks after watching the preseason compared to what it looks like now.

Re: Packers 2nd Rounder | Mike Neal

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:15 am
by Turk Nowitzki
Ahh yes, these are the the type of reactions to TT picks that I remember. We got spoiled last year when everyone was pretty happy.

If Jolly gets suspended we do have a need at DE.