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Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:39 am
by SnakeLH2006

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:21 am
by El Duderino
Even if your story about the girl is completely true, tons of professional athletes cheat on their wives and girlfriends. If professional teams chose to not sign players based on faithfulness in their relationships, there would be a lot of very good athletes out of work. Plus, 18 year olds aren't underage when it comes to consenting for sex.

Again, i don't even know if this story you brought up is true, but if it is, i agree it doesn't make Finley look good. That said, the only part that would bother me much is the alcohol part with a girl under the age of 21. Athletes chasing tons of tail though, married or not has been going on forever and will continue going on because so much tail is offered up to them.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:23 pm
by notoriousTJ11
I have a hard time believing this, I realize a lot of pro athletes do scum bag things (thinking about it I can't say I wouldn't if I were in the situation) but if I had a dollar for every time I heard someone who knew someone that had some type of sexual relationship with a local pro athlete I'd be riding around in a Bentley. I don't have a hard time believing Finley had sex with an 18 year old, Hugh Hefner has made a living out of it, but the way you went about ranting and gossiping is what I can't stand. It's his personal business, if your friend actually did this then good for her, but everything seems a little to convenient for me with the pictures and what not.

SnakeLH2006 wrote:He's the next Terrell Owens...and yeah he's from Tennessee. You heard it here first....except T.O. was a probowler and didn't have sex with 18 year olds (getting them wasted) while he was married. T.O. was kind of flaky, but never had his morals, intentions questioned. Know this. Jermichael Finley is a grade A douchebag. If you give that guy a big deal contract, he flames out. He won't make it to 30.


Chad Clifton was from Tennessee, so whats you'r point? The TO comparison is just dumbfounding as well, sure Finley has said/done some stupid things, but what 20-25 year old hasn't. Finley hasn't questioned his QB's sexuality, he hasn't sat in his front yard doing situps with reporters, he hasn't said the team would be better with Brett Favre, no, Jermichael stayed out past a curfew (something all people in their early 20's have done at one point or another) and missed some work meetings (which I would say is a sign of immaturity, but thats fixable). I blew off plenty of work meetings in my day but eventually I learned that its harder to move up the ladder when you aren't willing to always play the game and now im 24 and doing quite fine for myself and I know that if Jermichael recognizes what I did then he could become a Packer legend with his talent.

Some time talent comes with moments of frustration and stupidity but so far he's been far more a positive asset to us and I don't think a single team in the league wouldn't want him on their roster. And after reading all of this I got a feeling that there certainly is a douche bag involved here and it ain't Jermichael , YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:39 pm
by LUKE23
He's the next Terrell Owens...and yeah he's from Tennessee. You heard it here first....except T.O. was a probowler and didn't have sex with 18 year olds (getting them wasted) while he was married. T.O. was kind of flaky, but never had his morals, intentions questioned. Know this. Jermichael Finley is a grade A douchebag. If you give that guy a big deal contract, he flames out. He won't make it to 30.


That is quite a bold statement based on things we do not know. I think it is pretty clear Finley is not the most eloquent speaker and he's had some off field problems, but the guy is 23 years old, a hard worker, and a matchup nightmare. I care more about what he's doing on the field. You could argue he's the most talented player for his position on this entire roster.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:26 pm
by Kerb Hohl
notoriousTJ11 wrote:I have a hard time believing this, I realize a lot of pro athletes do scum bag things (thinking about it I can't say I wouldn't if I were in the situation) but if I had a dollar for every time I heard someone who knew someone that had some type of sexual relationship with a local pro athlete I'd be riding around in a Bentley.


Dude, I know for a fact you already do. Do you mean 2 Bentleys?

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:26 pm
by ReasonablySober
I'd take the next TO on this team provided he doesn't alienate his teammates. As long as he isn't breaking the law or starting crap in the locker room, I really couldn't care less what Finley does.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:29 pm
by Kerb Hohl
I've heard similar stories about Harris, Woodson, etc. from people that went to GB high schools.

I had heard some rumors about Sharper (with older women) when he had a girlfriend at home.

Unless he bangs a 15 year old, nobody cares.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:32 pm
by chuckleslove
If some 18 year old piece of tail was throwing herself at me I'd probably hit it too :P Just to be clear where I stand on this. Granted I'm single and don't have a family but yeah.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:32 pm
by Newz
Isn't that a good thing if he is the next TO? TO was kinda, sorta good there for a while in his prime... He's still pretty good and he is an old man by NFL standards.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:34 pm
by LUKE23
Agreed with DB. I care more about how he affects the overall team and his on field play. If he's out chasing tail but it isn't causing any on field/team problems, I could care less. If you have followed Finley since he came, if there is one thing that is not debatable, it is that he LOVES football. He's one of the few guys that is visibly animated to be practicing, let alone playing in games. He has the talent to be an absolute superstar.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:39 pm
by chuckleslove
LUKE23 wrote:Agreed with DB. I care more about how he affects the overall team and his on field play. If he's out chasing tail but it isn't causing any on field/team problems, I could care less. If you have followed Finley since he came, if there is one thing that is not debatable, it is that he LOVES football. He's one of the few guys that is visibly animated to be practicing, let alone playing in games. He has the talent to be an absolute superstar.



Yep, he also seems to love being a Packer which I also view as a plus and it would seem TT probably does. I would be surprised if he doesn't get an extension either this year during the season or next off season/early season. That could all change if we have a lockout of course.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:41 pm
by Flames24Rulz
Never understood why guys cheat on their wives when they look as gorgeous as Finley's wife. Idiot.

I learned a long time ago to root for the team and players' abilities; not their character off the field. If you're a professional athlete, there's a great chance that you're an absolute douchebag.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:33 pm
by eagle13
Other than Finley's dick and dickness

Cullen Jenkins, cornerback Tramon Williams, guard Daryn Colledge and fullback Korey Hall all would be among the unrestricted free agents.


Jenkins may get tagged as he will have suitors & might prefer 4-3. Tramon will be pursued by others if he has good year. These 2 are most important guys. College - who cares?

If defensive end Johnny Jolly is reinstated next year, he would return under his one-year, $2.521 million contract that is being tolled.


Jolly may return. I'd welcome him for that amount for 1 year to see if he still is in shape.

In addition, the Packers probably would have to give linebacker A.J. Hawk a new contract because his base salary in the final year of his contract (2011) swells to $10 million.


Could Hawk balk at pay cut? He's solid but could be replaced.

Other significant players who will have at least four accrued seasons in 2011 include wide receiver James Jones, kicker Mason Crosby, linebacker Desmond Bishop, safety Atari Bigby and running back Brandon Jackson.


Don't dump Crosby before having replacement ala P Ryan. bigby & bishop are probably history. IF Nelson becomes clear #3 this season, Jones may bolt.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:36 pm
by Newz
eagle13 wrote:Jenkins may get tagged as he will have suitors & might prefer 4-3. Tramon will be pursued by others if he has good year. These 2 are most important guys. College - who cares?


Agreed. Tramon and Jenkins are very important to our team. Hall and Colledge really provide nothing of value that we don't already have.

Jolly may return. I'd welcome him for that amount for 1 year to see if he still is in shape.


Agreed, that would be awesome. :D

Could Hawk balk at pay cut? He's solid but could be replaced.


I wouldn't keep him around for $10 million. If he's willing to take the pay cut, he is a average to below average starter or a good back-up.

Don't dump Crosby before having replacement ala P Ryan. bigby & bishop are probably history. IF Nelson becomes clear #3 this season, Jones may bolt.


Out of the list of Jones, Crosby, Bishop, Bigby and Jackson I do not think any of those guys have a huge impact on our success. With Driver getting older it would be nice for Jones to come back. Crosby you obviously shouldn't let go unless you have another guy who can take his place and be solid. Bigby is a tool. Bishop is a solid back-up and Jackson is average at best for a reserve.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:44 pm
by LUKE23
Hawk is a solid starter (and I think he's going to have his best year this year), but if he doesn't want to negotiate his contract down, I cut him.

Colledge, no way in hell I give him a dime.

I'd keep Jenkins, Jolly, Tramon for sure.

Crosby, depends how he does this year and what he wants. He has elite leg strength, which is harder to find than accuracy with a weak leg. He just needs to show he can be more consistent this year.

Bigby, see ya.

Jackson, don't really care. Would like to upgrade the RB spot a bit.

Bishop, would like him back as a backup, but only if he is willing to take backup money.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:09 pm
by LarryHarris
notoriousTJ11 wrote:Finley hasn't YET questioned his QB's sexuality, he hasn't sat in his front yard doing situps with reporters, he hasn't said the team would be better with Brett Favre, no, Jermichael stayed out past a curfew (something all people in their early 20's have done at one point or another) and missed some work meetings (which I would say is a sign of immaturity, but thats fixable). I blew off plenty of work meetings in my day but eventually I learned that its harder to move up the ladder when you aren't willing to always play the game and now im 24 and doing quite fine for myself and I know that if Jermichael recognizes what I did then he could become a Packer legend with his talent.


Fixed...

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:10 pm
by MickeyDavis
No way Hawk gets $10- million next year. I think he'll stay with a reworked 2011 deal and a 2-3 year extension.

Re: Packers hustling to re-sign their starters

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:25 pm
by notoriousTJ11
GrendonJennings wrote:
notoriousTJ11 wrote:I have a hard time believing this, I realize a lot of pro athletes do scum bag things (thinking about it I can't say I wouldn't if I were in the situation) but if I had a dollar for every time I heard someone who knew someone that had some type of sexual relationship with a local pro athlete I'd be riding around in a Bentley.


Dude, I know for a fact you already do. Do you mean 2 Bentleys?


Traded the Bentley for a night of San Felipo silence, worth every penny !

I've heard a ton of stories about JJ Hardy and possible dieseases he transmitted, at the same time even though I trust some of the people I've heard them from there's no way I'm gonna pass this off as fact to people.