Roster Breakdown - 4/29

Post #1 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:38 am

QB:
Rodgers
Flynn
Harrell

RB:
Starks
Grant
Green
Nance

FB:
Johnson

WR:
Driver
Jennings
Nelson
Cobb
Swain

TE:
Finley
Quarles
Crabtree
Havner

OL:
Clifton
Bulaga
Sitton
Wells
Lang
Sherrod
Newhouse
McDonald
Dietrich-Smith

DL:
Pickett
Raji
Neal
Wilson
Green
Wynn
Harrell

LB:
Matthews
Hawk
Bishop
Chillar
Zombo
Walden
Jones
Poppinga
Barnett

DB:
Woodson
Williams
Collins
Peprah
Shields
Bush
Burnett
Underwood
Lee

S/T
Goode
Crosby
Masthay

Activer Roster (bolded): 43 +1 for Harrell
Others: 11
Active roster size: 45
Remaining roster spots: 10
Practice squad: 8

Unless we take a guy today, Harrell is a lock to make the 53, he just won't be on the active roster. There's an exemption, isn't there for QBs?

I also think either Swain is a lock or we take another WR. We're not going into next season with only 4 WRs.

When you consider that another WR, either Swain or someone else, is a lock then you're looking at one open spot on the active. To me that means a CB to beat out Underwood/Lee or a defensive lineman to beat out Wynn.

After that we're gonna have eight open spots on the 53, eight on the practice. My guesses as of right now:

Kuhn (re-signed)
Dietrich-Smith
Underwood
Lee
Wynn
Poppinga

Cuts:
Harrell (hope I'm wrong and he shows something)
Barnett
Nance
Havner

Today I'm hoping we draft a linebacker to play special teams so we can cut Poppinga. Another CB to compete with Underwood and Lee. A WR to compete with Swain. Another DL.

Kerb Hohl · Post #2 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:45 am

I agree with it all, but there can always be something crazy happening like Brad Jones getting cut or Burnett coming off injury falling out of favor or something or getting put on the PUP.

You never know, I guess.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #3 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:46 am

I honestly wouldn't mind finding a replacement for Swain, not really a fan.

Overall though, that is an amazingly deep and talented team.

Edit: I could also see a rookie taking one of Jones, Zombo, or Walden spots on the team. All 3 are kind of about the same caliber so if we draft someone it wouldn't be a big deal to cut one of those guys.

bigkurty · Post #4 » by **bigkurty** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:46 am

Injuries always happen so get that depth IMO and maybe find an upgrade or two.

Post #5 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:48 am

It's one thing to think about in the abstract, but when you actually look at the roster and see how good it is, top to bottom, it really is pretty striking.

I **** love our team.

bigkurty · Post #6 » by **bigkurty** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:49 am

I guarantee 2 season ending injuries occur before training camp is over. It happens every year practically so depth is vital. Surviving last years rash of season ending injuries was due to TT always stock piling and maxing out depth so why change the M.O.?

Post #7 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:50 am

I bolded Crosby because we need a kicker, but I wouldn't discount the chance that one of our picks tomorrow is a kicker. In fact it's probably likely.

bigkurty · Post #8 » by **bigkurty** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:58 am

DrugBust wrote:I bolded Crosby because we need a kicker, but I wouldn't discount the chance that one of our picks tomorrow is a kicker. In fact it's probably likely.

Agreed, TT likes to create competition every year at one of the kicker spots too and with Mason a FA, that seems likely just to be safe. No need risking a super bowl over a kicker problem.

Overall I agree though, the depth we have is crazy. The thing that scares me the most is not resolving the CBA situation.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #9 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:00 am

I really want Crosby back, I think he's one of the best kickers in the league and he's still incredibly young (for a kicker).

El Duderino · Post #10 » by **El Duderino** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:33 am

GrendonJennings wrote:I agree with it all, but there can always be something crazy happening like Brad Jones getting cut or Burnett coming off injury falling out of favor or something or getting put on the PUP.

You never know, I guess.

Yea, i think Zombo is a lock, but my guess is that only one of Jones/Walden will make the team, especially if Jones has another nagging injury in camp. So i wouldn't be surprised much at all if Brad Jones fails to make the team.

Even if he stays healthy in camp, my gut feeling is Walden for now at least is ahead of Jones. Mix in that if/when Ted drafts an OLB tomorrow and then if that kid looks good in camp/preseason games, Jones could be the odd man out. It's not like he's a high upside talent anyways.

I bolded Crosby because we need a kicker, but I wouldn't discount the chance that one of our picks tomorrow is a kicker. In fact it's probably likely.

Crosby i'm conflicted on. I still don't trust him in pressure spots with a FG from 40 yards or longer and he simply misses to many kicks.

That said, i sure wouldn't want to roll the dice on a rookie that say Ted brought in to compete and looked better in camp. On a team this good, i don't want to take a chance that a young kid say missed a pressure kick and then mentally unraveled. I don't want an old vet with a pretty weak leg either.

Lastly, it would suck if we replaced Crosby and then wherever he ended up, Mason finally put things all together and became an elite kicker given his leg strength. While i really question if Crosby ever will, when he has missed most of his kicks, they are almost always just barely missed, he rarely totally shanks one. So hopefully he's just right there from becoming more consistent/accurate.

El Duderino · Post #11 » by **El Duderino** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:46 am

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:I really want Crosby back, I think he's one of the best kickers in the league and he's still incredibly young (for a kicker).

One of the best kickers in the game? Based on what?

I'm pretty much for keeping him and i can see people saying that Crosby has the potential to be one of the best kickers in the game, but only the potential for that. Since Mason has been a Packer, each year he's been in the bottom half of FG% and more more troublesome, he's generally been a choker in key kick situations past 40 yards.

I sometimes hear people excuse his FG% partially by saying that McCarthy has Crosby try so many 50 plus yard field goals, but if you look at his attempt numbers compared to kickers around the league, he isn't asked to kick an excessive amount.

Post #12 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:51 am

I'm fine with keep Crosby around, but I think we can afford to pick the draft's best kicker as competition.

xTitan · Post #13 » by **xTitan** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:28 am

I think the Packers front seven is weak, as much as I like Neal and Wilson, they are totally unproven. I am a bit torn, Ilike the talent the Packers drafted, but this organization has totally neglected an average dfense - there best pass rushing lineman is gone and i see some major trouble on the horizon. I have always beeen bothered by their neglect of an outside rushing LB....this year will be disappointing defensively unless added a miricle who can make plays.

bigkurty · Post #14 » by **bigkurty** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:19 am

Average defense? Haha that's funny.

Newz · Post #15 » by **Newz** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:37 pm

xTitan wrote:I think the Packers front seven is weak, as much as I like Neal and Wilson, they are totally unproven. I am a bit torn, Ilike the talent the Packers drafted, but this organization has totally neglected an average dfense - there best pass rushing lineman is gone and i see some major trouble on the horizon. I have always beeen bothered by their neglect of an outside rushing LB....this year will be disappointing defensively unless added a miricle who can make plays.

You say this every year and we have been top 5 in D the past two seasons.

Not saying we couldn't fall off. But I don't think Cullen Jenkins (who I admit is VERY good) is the difference between us being a top 5 defense and an 'average' defense.

I still don't think it's 100% that Jenkins is gone.

wichmae · Post #16 » by **wichmae** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:41 pm

xTitan wrote:I think the Packers front seven is weak, as much as I like Neal and Wilson, they are totally unproven. I am a bit torn, Ilike the talent the Packers drafted, but this organization has totally neglected an average dfense - there best pass rushing lineman is gone and i see some major trouble on the horizon. I have always beeen bothered by their neglect of an outside rushing LB....this year will be disappointing defensively unless added a miricle who can make plays.

Yeah totally dont get this.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #17 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:57 pm

Drug Bust, when you say Harrel are you talking about Grahm Cracker or Justin?
Either way, I don't think either of those guys don't get kept on the 53.

I'm going to assume that Kuhn gets resigned and that Barnett isn't back.

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:Updated 45

Clifton-Sherrod-Wells-Sitton-Bulaga
Lang-Newhouse-McDonald

Rodgers
Flynn

Starks/Grant/Green

Johnson/Kuhn

Jennings/Nelson/Driver/Cobb/Nobody

Finley/Quarless

Neal-Raji-Pickett
Wilson-Green-Nobody

Clay-Bishop-Hawk-Zombo
Jones-Chillar-Nobody-Walden

Woodson-Tramon-Shields-Bush
Collins-Burnett-Pepprah

Goode
Masthay
Crosby

43 guys

Reds are Giant needs
Blues are areas of possible improvement.

8 man inactive: Grahm Cracker, Lee, Underwood, Wynn, Harrel, Nance, Crabtree, Swain.

Newz · Post #18 » by **Newz** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:04 pm

wichmae wrote:
xTitan wrote:I think the Packers front seven is weak, as much as I like Neal and Wilson, they are totally unproven. I am a bit torn, Ilike the talent the Packers drafted, but this organization has totally neglected an average dfense - there best pass rushing lineman is gone and i see some major trouble on the horizon. I have always beeen bothered by their neglect of an outside rushing LB....this year will be disappointing defensively unless added a miricle who can make plays.

Yeah totally dont get this.

Even if Neal doesn't pan out (I think he's going to be a player), would you really call:

DE: Pickett - Neal/Wilson/Green
NT: Raji

OLB: Matthews
OLB: Walden/Zombo/Jones
ILB: Bishop - Chillar
ILB: Hawk - Barnett

Weak? There are a lot of good players in that group.

Raji and Matthews are both top 5 players at their positions. I think you could make an argument Matthews is the best player at his position.

Bishop and Pickett are both above average starters for their spots.

Hawk has been very solid and Chillar is a great back-up. Barnett isn't off of the team yet and he is also a very solid player.

Green is a solid starter if we need him. Neal has a huge upside and Wilson could also improve as he is still young. The other OLB isn't filled with amazing talent... But Zombo, Walden and Jones are all young players who could take a step forward and for now they are serviceable.

You aren't going to have a pro bowl player at every spot on the roster. That front 7 is fine if we add a guy or two in the draft considering it is backed by the best secondary in the NFL.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #19 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:11 pm

xTitan wrote:I think the Packers front seven is weak, as much as I like Neal and Wilson, they are totally unproven. I am a bit torn, Ilike the talent the Packers drafted, but this organization has totally neglected an average dfense - there best pass rushing lineman is gone and i see some major trouble on the horizon. I have always beeen bothered by their neglect of an outside rushing LB....this year will be disappointing defensively unless added a miricle who can make plays.

5 probowlers on Defense

Post #20 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:13 pm

I'm dumb. I didn't specify the difference between the 53 man roster and the eight on the practice squad. I'll update the OP.