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Who are some guys you wouldn't mind seeing brought in to compete for spots when this whole CBA thing gets dealt with.

I'd try and bring in:

Mark Herzlich (ILB-Boston College)
Guys probably going to get a lot of calls. He was a beast before the chemo and if he gets his body right, which I think he can, he's going to be a good player. Assuming Barnett's gone, Chillar and DJ Smith are the only ILBs left to compete for the two backup spots.

Derrick Locke (RB/WR/KR-Kentucky)
Cobb's brother in arms. Another guy who's a threat to score everytime he touches the ball. He was lined up at Receiver at times and showed he has skills there. He's an amazing returner at the very least. 4.37 40: 27 Yards per Return

Jarriel King (T/G South Carolina)
It should be Packers policy to protect Rodgers to the best of our ability and that meanns bringing in lineman that have a chance to be good players. Even if King never starts, he might beat out a backup which as we've seen from last year are important.

Terrence Toliver (WR-LSU)
With Driver nearing the end a good receiver to replace him would be very nice. Toliver's got some skills but he's raw. A year working with procoaches would do him a lot of good. He's 6'5 203, and ran a 4.5 40. He's a potential deep threat for Rodgers to hit downfield

Derek Hall (T-Stanford)
He's a project Olineman with some potential. Great size and he's smart, just needs to work on technique. Toss him on the practice squad and work with him and he may become something in the future.

Pat Devlin (QB-Delaware)
If this CBA thing ever gets worked out, we should swap Flynn for a pick in next year's draft. Most teams have a 3rd QB, and Devlin drew comparisons to Flacco (though most of that is from his height and that he's going to Delaware)

Ian Williams (NT-Notre Dame)
Williams is an athletic big guy who's got a lot of potential. He could hopefully let Raji rest for a few plays a game. Another season like last one and Raji's going to be down to 280 pounds.

Derrick Locke, RB
Mark Herzlich, LB
Dane Sanzenbacher, WR
Noel Devine, RB
Jai Eugene, S

Steven Friday
Willie Smith
Joe Horn
Lester Jean
Ian Williams
Nick Bellore
Isaac Odim

All would be guys I think could at least make the PS and be interesting players down the road.

Wade-A-Holic wrote:Steven Friday
Willie Smith
Lester Jean
Ian Williams

Also, Herzlich and Locke.

Would love Herzlich, Locke, Devlin and Tolliver

Mark Herzlich
Pat Devlin
Ian Williams
Kendric Burney
DeAndre McDaniel

There won't be many feasible UDFA's because they'll be lost to the minor leagues unless the players and owners can come to an agreement soon.

But if it's resolved quickly enough, I'd like to see Devlin and Clay brought in most of the names available. No reason to think Clay won't have a role in the NFL if he can resolve the weight issue with stronger leadership unlike they had with Badgers. And Devlin going undrafted was completely inexplicable to me. I feel like he very reasonably could be better than most of the QB's selected between the first few rounds.

Bernman wrote:There won't be many feasible UDFA's because they'll be lost to the minor leagues unless the players and owners can come to an agreement soon.

But if it's resolved quickly enough, I'd like to see Devlin and Clay brought in most of the names available. No reason to think Clay won't have a role in the NFL if he can resolve the weight issue with stronger leadership unlike they had with Badgers. And Devlin going undrafted was completely inexplicable to me. I feel like he very reasonably could be better than most of the QB's selected between the first few rounds.

What makes you think Clay can cut it in the NFL even if he can can his weight in check?

Watching him with the Badgers, the vast majority of his yards came on quick hitters up the gut where there was a big enough hole that he wasn't touched until he was already at the linebacker level. He won't see those kind of holes/seams nearly as often in the NFL.

He can't really be stretched out wide often in the NFL because he lacks quickness and agility. He isn't shifty enough to make guys miss on the NFL level. Most importantly, for a guy as big as Clay is, i never felt that he consistently played up to that size at Wisconsin. To often he allowed himself to be tripped up via arm tackles at his legs and feet by guys much smaller than he'd face in the NFL. If Clay played more like a true power back like say a Jacobs with the Giants or Bettis when he was in the league, then i'd have more hope for him to make it in the NFL even with his speed, quickness, and agility limitations. He just doesn't though on a consistent basis and mix in his bricks for hands, i don't see him making an NFL roster. Hope i'm wrong.

Ryan Jones would be good. Saw him as a 3rd and 4th rounder in a lot of mocks and he went undrafted. Has the height, speed, and length that TT looks for in a CB, and had 6 picks last year, although at a lower level of competition.

Ian Williams
Willie Smith
Terrance Tolliver

Please!

Kendric Burney - must have some issues, had a mid-round grade, would like to see him get a chance to make the roster.
Mark Herzlich - can he be a ILB in a 3-4? hard working back-up for Hawk-Bishop, Barnett may not be back
Terrance Tolliver - big receiver, red-zone target, not absolutely needed though
Ian Williams - may lose Cullen Jenkins to free agency
Pat Devlin - project to compete for 3rd QB

mnWI wrote:Ryan Jones would be good. Saw him as a 3rd and 4th rounder in a lot of mocks and he went undrafted. Has the height, speed, and length that TT looks for in a CB, and had 6 picks last year, although at a lower level of competition.

I saw him as 5th rdr but YES he'd be good addition. Beats Underwood right off.

I'd like to add:

Mario Harvey (ILB-Marshall)
Jake Kirkpatrick (C-TCU)
Dane Sanzenbacher (WR-tOSU)
Ryan Barthalomew (C-Syracuse)
Wayne Daniels (OLB-TCU)
Martin Parker (DE-Richmond)
Ibraham Abdulai (DE-Arkansas Pine Bluff)

Ryan Jones should have been no lower than a 5th rounder. He's skinny and not much of a tackler but he is a very seasoned ballhawk with natural man coverage skills.

Kendrick Burney is strictly a Cover-2 zone corner, don't see how he fits. Good player, just not for GB. He's one of those that isn't as good as he thinks he is though.

I don't know what to make of Herzlich. Too many people that I know liked him passed on him repeatedly. He looked out of place at the Senior Bowl practices, always a count slower than everyone else and his pop on his hits was all but gone. Maybe more recovery time will let him get some of that mojo back, IDK...

Pat Devlin makes Matt Flynn's arm look like a cannon. I never saw anything that ever indicated he had any NFL potential and I do actually know the CAA pretty well. If Joe Flacco (horribly overrated IMO) hadn't come from Delaware nobody would ever have listed Devlin as a pro prospect.

The two guys mentioned above that IMO would make good Packers are Mario Harvey and Jake Kirkpatrick. Harvey is a 3-4 ILB, a run-and-hit guy with good power and vision. At worst he brings speed and pop to coverage units. Kirkpatrick is on the smaller side for centers but he is one tough nut. Phil Taylor said he's the best center he faced. He's only played football for 4 seasons and was a great wrestler and rugby player, very good hands and leverage and he's fairly quick. I was surprised he didn't get drafted; in 3 years he could wind up as good as Wisniewski if he gets good coaching.

A guy I strongly suspect (wink wink) the Packers will try to bring in is Nick Bellore, a ILB from Central Michigan. Poor man's AJ Hawk without the fanfare. He was very nearly your last pick.

Edit--I like Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State too. Real field stretcher but you never know if he'll catch it and he basically only runs 8s and 9s for routes. Legit 4.3 speed and his 10-yard split at his pro day was 1.42, was a champion 200 meter sprinter. Big for a speed guy at just over 6'2" and a chiseled 205.

I was thinking we'd probably bring in Bellore as he's a local kid -- and we've had a lot of guys from CMU since TT took the reins.

TT needs to come up with a few unknown DL.

So how many of these guys is Ted going to bring in?

eagle13 wrote:TT needs to come up with a few unknown DL.

This guy is going to have a big year.

DocHoliday wrote:So how many of these guys is Ted going to bring in?

All the good ones.

eagle13 wrote:TT needs to come up with a few unknown DL.

"I welcome all comers."

Really love the Smithson and Gurley pickups, especially the Smithson one. I was thrilled when we picked up Shields last year as an UDFA because I thought he would fill our returning need. I think he turned out just a little bit better than that. No pressure, Shaky