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Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:16 pm
by eagle13
Didn't think this topic fit the leadup thread. I know its early but today's JS article about Dec 31st as last day to extend & put $ in this year & Wells got me wondering. Finley likely to get tagged but what about Wells? IMO he should definitely be resigned. He's 31 so TT might pass - but I think that would be huge mistake (ala Jenkins) considering the suspect status of our OL and he's been healthy. What do you guys think?
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:19 pm
by Newz
Tag Finley unless he takes a deal like 5Y/25-30M.
Definitely resign Wells.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:20 pm
by ReasonablySober
If Sitton wants top C money I let him walk. It's strictly an age thing.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:21 pm
by Newz
DrugBust wrote:If Sitton wants top C money I let him walk. It's strictly an age thing.

Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:27 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
DrugBust wrote:If Sitton wants top C money I let him walk. It's strictly an age thing.
Green font, right? Or you meant Wells, I suppose. Thought you might have been making a Woeful joke.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:56 pm
by chuckleslove
You mean Mike Hunt joke?

Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:02 pm
by TheMove
Let Finley go. So sick of Finley!
And Sitton already got a contract extension so I don't know what bizzare world you guys live in.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:08 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Yeah Mike Hunt, my bad.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:16 pm
by ReasonablySober
Whoops. Yea, meant Wells.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:50 pm
by TheMove
DrugBust wrote:Whoops. Yea, meant Wells.
Scared me for a sec. But I think Wells is very underrated. Hes the only player on our offensive line that has played every game this year. He is a great center. Blocks very well, and I don't ever see him mess up snaps. I watch some teams this year and all the mess ups with snaps is crazy.
I would consider Wells a way bigger priority than Finley. I do got Finley hate right now. Hes just been a bust to me. And hes a greedy cocky player so Im sure he thinks he should get paid top TE money. Hes in a contract year and blows.
Atleast Finley could pull a John Salmons and atleast play up to his potential for a contract year. Finley has not earned top 10 TE money. Hes not a top 10 TE. And with all the drops he shouldnt even be starting.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:53 pm
by TheMove
I feel like Jimmy Graham and Finley swaped bodys.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:11 pm
by MickeyDavis
After this season
Bush
Finley
Flynn
Grant
Green (Howard)
Lee
Wells
After 2012
Clifton
Dietrich-Smith
Driver
Jennings
Jones (Brad)
Lang
Mastay (Restricted)
Peprah
Shields (Restricted)
Wynn
Zombo (Restricted)
After 2013
Burnett
Crabtree (Restricted)
Francois (Restricted)
Goode
Harrell (Restricted)
Jones (James)
Kuhn
Matthews
Neal
Newhouse
Pickett
Quarless
Raji
Saine
Starks
Wilson
After 2014
Bishop
Bulaga
Cobb
Green (Alex)
Guy
House
Nelson
Rodgers
Smith
Taylor
Williams (Tramon)
Williams (DJ)
Woodson
After 2015
Crosby
Hawk
Sherrod
After 2016
Sitton
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:27 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
MickeyDavis wrote:After this season
Bush
Finley
Flynn
Grant
Green (Howard)
Lee
Wells
Need: Finley?
Nice: Wells, Green (cheap deal), Bush (ST type deal)
After 2012
Clifton
Dietrich-Smith
Driver
Jennings
Jones (Brad)
Lang
Mastay (Restricted)
Peprah
Shields (Restricted)
Wynn
Zombo (Restricted)
Need: Jennings, Mastay, Shields
Nice: Lang, Wynn and Zombo (if very cheap)
After 2013
Burnett
Crabtree (Restricted)
Francois (Restricted)
Goode
Harrell (Restricted)
Jones (James)
Kuhn
Matthews
Neal
Newhouse
Pickett
Quarless
Raji
Saine
Starks
Wilson
Need: Matthews, Raji, Burnett, maybe some others depending on what our roster looks like
Nice: Jones, Crabtree, Fracois, Harrell (if he's a solid #2), Neal, Newhouse, Quarless, Starks/Saine, Wilson
After 2014
Bishop
Bulaga
Cobb
Green (Alex)
Guy
House
Nelson
Rodgers
Smith
Taylor
Williams (Tramon)
Williams (DJ)
Woodson
Need: Godgers, Tramon, Bulaga, Bishop, Cobb, DJ Smith, Jordy?
Nice: Green, House, Woody (if he is playing safety and still playing well, big ??)
After 2015
Crosby
Hawk
Sherrod
Need: Crosby
Nice: Sherrod (if he can still walk)
After 2016
Sitton
Who knows if Sitton is still good by then
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:29 pm
by Newz
I wouldn't list Burnett as a 'need' until he actually does something.
I'm not a safety expert or anything... but he has been getting pretty poor reviews and he seems out of position a lot to me.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:34 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Yeah, I guess Burnett would be more of a question mark. I just figured he is essentially our only decent (young) safety going forward (unless Woody switches). I think he'll be a good starting safety some day.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:35 pm
by MickeyDavis
Hard to project after next year except guys like Jennings and Matthews. We'll have another couple of drafts, guys will get hurt, etc. Matsay and Shields definitely and they'll be restricted.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:55 pm
by TheMove
Might sound stupid but I would love to lock up Matsay for as long as possible.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:28 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
TheMove wrote:Might sound stupid but I would love to lock up Matsay for as long as possible.
Same here.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:08 pm
by chuckleslove
I'm not worried about Masthay, mostly because punters aren't expensive and I doubt he has the type of ego that will feel some need to hit the market and get max money, TT will lock him up when the time is right.
Re: Free Agency
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:54 pm
by zmanishere11
I know this might sound crazy to everyone, but the guy I hope TT considers moving after the season is Greg Jennings. Hear me out:
1. 2012 will be the last year of his contract
2. The franchise tag for WR's after that year will be 10+ mil
3. I think Randall Cobb is going to end up the best of the 5 currently on the roster
4. There are some WR deprieved teams out there picking in the top 15 of the draft this year (STL, JAX, CLE, WAS, CAR, TEN)
Plus, check out GJ and Finley's combined #'s this year:
Catches Yards TDs
10 142 1
7 123 1
16 204 3
10 131 1
8 149 1
7 102 0
9 160 2
11 90 2
6 99 1
3 36 0
7 112 1
13 181 2
2 20 0
109 1549 15 (combined for 13 weeks)
8.38 119 1.15 (average per week)
How do you justify 15-18 mil / year for this between 2 players?
I think if you can snag a top 15 pick, you have to at least consider it, right? Plus we all know how TT dominances drafting WR's. Maybe I just want to see some more Cobb next year . . . .