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Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:29 pm
by LUKE23
Start it out with our buddy, Mr. Angelo, getting canned in Chicago. Kind of sucks actually, he was awful.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/136590683.htmlAlso, Vikings named Rick Spielman GM (LOL).
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:38 pm
by emunney
They're going to hire Polian, I feel it in my bones.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 4:40 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
I have to give them credit for firing Angelo before Lovie. Angelo was definitely the root cause of their troubles. He was an incredibly awful drafter. I'd give Lovie some time with a better GM. I'd also try to keep Martz as OC, Cutler actually looked pretty good until he hurt his thumb. They better hire the right GM because their talent is getting old really fast. They also have to figure out what they are going to do with Forte.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:19 pm
by Wilford Brimley
Is Speilman terrible?
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:23 pm
by LUKE23
Wilford Brimley wrote:Is Speilman terrible?
He's been there since 2006, and I have to think they are one of the worst drafting teams in that time span, in addition to some just horrendous FA moves (Berrian, M. Williams to name two). Outside of AD/Allen, they really haven't added any long-term studs in that time frame (maybe Harvin if he can stay on the field, Greenway and Henderson were also very solid). The rest of their talented players were vets that were already there (K. Williams, P. Williams, Winfield, Hutchinson).
That team is in for minimum three year rebuild before they are back in the playoffs. They have no offensive line, no WR's, no secondary, and AD is going to be coming off major knee surgery. And we don't even know if Ponder is a passable starter.
Besides that, he's done well.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:28 pm
by emunney
Yeah, I'm glad to see the Vikes will be more of the same, which at their best has been really good but not sustainably so, and which at their worst has been really terrible. They probably could have done worse, but I'm glad they're not getting Polian or poaching one of our guys.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:33 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Since the Queens are staying internal, hopefully that means they continue to build around Ponder.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 5:43 pm
by BUCKnation
thats too bad about angelo, really liked his teams in the division

Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:35 pm
by trwi7
Chargers owner is trolling the fans. Norv Turner and A.J. Smith are staying.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:47 pm
by Turk Nowitzki
trwi7 wrote:Chargers owner is trolling the fans. Norv Turner and A.J. Smith are staying.
I can't believe that, I pretty much chalked up those firings as a forgone conclusion.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 7:59 pm
by emunney
Martz is out, citing 'philosophical differences.' Nietzche v. Kant I presume.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:12 pm
by Kerb Hohl
That's great news that Martz is out. Not that Cutler can't figure out a more traditional offense quickly, but there is going to be ANOTHER season of relearning/retooling.
I think Martz really had that offense humming for better or for worse before Cutler went down this season. I realize there are pretty big issues with the 7-step drops and other things he wants to do, but I think if they want to compete next year, he should still be the OC.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:14 pm
by emunney
I wonder what they'll do about Forte. He was the one piece they had who really made sense in Martz's schemes.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:24 pm
by ReasonablySober
Jerry Jones won't be hiring a GM. His explanation:
"The facts are that I've spent 22 years doing this exactly the same way"
...
That's the problem, Jerry.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:37 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
DrugBust wrote:Jerry Jones won't be hiring a GM. His explanation:
"The facts are that I've spent 22 years doing this exactly the same way"
...
That's the problem, Jerry.
Honestly, hiring a GM would probably just cause more trouble. There is absolutely no way Jones takes a back seat to managing his team, so a GM would just cause more friction and problems. The Cowboys are quickly becoming the Raiders under Al Davis, except with a nice, shiny, new stadium.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:18 pm
by RiotPunch
LMAO @ the Chargers keeping Turner. That would have been easily the most desirable destination for Fisher, imo. Turner is a great OC but will never get it done as a head coach.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:11 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Funny how Norv Turner continues to keep his job and the Chargers fired Shottenheimer after winning 14 games.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:17 am
by Flames24Rulz
Hands off of Reggie McKenzie, Bears.
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 8:56 pm
by trwi7
Re: Non-Packer 2012 Offseason NFL Moves
Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 9:07 pm
by Newz
trwi7 wrote:http://prod.danpatrick.com/2012/01/04/christian-ponder-says-vikings-assured-him-they-wouldnt-draft-qb/
Terrific.
I'd probably trade down if I was the Vikings. Then again I have always been a fan of trading down if I am the type of team like the Colts, Vikings, etc. that needs a ton of help to get better.
The other day when I was talking about the Colts, I suggested they should try to get a 'Ricky Williams' type deal for the Luck pick... so attempt to get 8-10 picks for it. Then in addition to that trade Manning for something like a 1st, 3rd and 5th or two 1sts. (I think both of those guys might potentially be able to get more than that)
Then invest several draft picks into rebuilding the core of your team while signing Matt Flynn to be your QB and to develop with the young talent you get through the draft.
They could have something like 17-20 picks this year and 12-15 picks next year. Add that into the possibility of undrafted free agent guys, trading veterans like Wayne, Freeney, Clark, etc. for picks and I think an NFL team could be rebuilt pretty damn quick while having a potentially very gooD QB at the helm in Flynn.