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OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:16 pm
by LUKE23
Real this time it appears:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-573 ... ead-at-85/

Disappointing that one of the icons of the sport will have so much controversy surrounding him at the time of his death, but I still hope he RIP.

It's crazy, it seems like this happens all the time for older people who just leave a profession that was their life. It's almost as if they don't know what else to do and their entire system shuts down as a result. I think it's part of the reason so many hold on for as long as they can. It makes me think about my grandpa on my dad's side, he's run a garage door repair business in Madison Lake, MN for around 60 years. He's mid 80's and still doing manual labor full-time. Its all he knows.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:21 pm
by MikeIsGood
LUKE23 wrote:Disappointing that one of the icons of the sport will have so much controversy surrounding him at the time of his death, but I still hope he RIP.


Yeah. Don't really know what else to say. RIP.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:42 pm
by MickeyDavis
I don't care one way or another. He's not the saint he's being portrayed as on the ESPN lovefest I'm watching now. He's just a football coach. RIP.

This was already being discussed in the college FB thread but there isn't much going on in football so we'll leave this thread up.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:04 pm
by MikeIsGood
LUKE23 wrote:It's crazy, it seems like this happens all the time for older people who just leave a profession that was their life. It's almost as if they don't know what else to do and their entire system shuts down as a result. I think it's part of the reason so many hold on for as long as they can. It makes me think about my grandpa on my dad's side, he's run a garage door repair business in Madison Lake, MN for around 60 years. He's mid 80's and still doing manual labor full-time. Its all he knows.


I think it's the same thing as the 'they'll hold on long enough to say their goodbyes' pheomena that you hear about (and I can attest to). It is amazing how the body works.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:19 pm
by RiotPunch
Definitely thought this would happen after all of the controversy and him losing his job, just didn't expect it to happen quite this soon. This doesn't change the awful things he let happen on his watch, but the man should be remembered for what he accomplished for the game of football.

RIP

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:20 pm
by chuckleslove
MikeIsGood wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:It's crazy, it seems like this happens all the time for older people who just leave a profession that was their life. It's almost as if they don't know what else to do and their entire system shuts down as a result. I think it's part of the reason so many hold on for as long as they can. It makes me think about my grandpa on my dad's side, he's run a garage door repair business in Madison Lake, MN for around 60 years. He's mid 80's and still doing manual labor full-time. Its all he knows.


I think it's the same thing as the 'they'll hold on long enough to say their goodbyes' pheomena that you hear about (and I can attest to). It is amazing how the body works.



Yep, just this past Thanksgiving, my grandpa knew everyone was coming in to town for the holiday which we normally didn't do for Thanksgiving, he hung on and passed away around noon on Thanksgiving day giving everyone just enough time to get there and say their last goodbyes. It is crazy how your body can hold on until there is that one last thing that needs to be done.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:24 pm
by an_also
The man's legacy is completely ruined in my eyes. I've seen articles saying that his "legacy outweighs the scandal" . Thats bull. No legacy can outweigh the fact that a man protected a child molester for 15 years. As cold as it is to say, I'm kind of indifferent to the news of him dying.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:31 pm
by jerrod
chuckleslove wrote:

Yep, just this past Thanksgiving, my grandpa knew everyone was coming in to town for the holiday which we normally didn't do for Thanksgiving, he hung on and passed away around noon on Thanksgiving day giving everyone just enough time to get there and say their last goodbyes. It is crazy how your body can hold on until there is that one last thing that needs to be done.


a similar thing happened right around christmas with my grandma a few years ago. there were lots of people at the hospital for days and then people went home to rest a little, she died.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:28 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Bear Bryant retired at 69. After retiring he was asked what he was going to do now that he wasn't coaching any more. He said "probably croak in a week." He died a few weeks later and only one day after having a completely healthy physical. Joe Pa was familiar with that story so some think that was a major reason why he continued to coach for so long.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:38 pm
by humanrefutation

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:43 pm
by humanrefutation
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:Bear Bryant retired at 69. After retiring he was asked what he was going to do now that he wasn't coaching any more. He said "probably croak in a week." He died a few weeks later and only one day after having a completely healthy physical. Joe Pa was familiar with that story so some think that was a major reason why he continued to coach for so long.


You're right, Musberger talked about that very issue three years ago.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:15 pm
by jakecronus8
I'm more than a little disturbed by the love he is getting on all the social media outlets and tv. I have no sympathy for a man who knowingly worked alongside a potential child rapist.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:50 am
by Ayt
He should make good worm food just like the rest of us.

NapoleonInRags wrote:We'll see what Joe Pa is really made of now. Does he die tonight, on a Saturday, ruining the weekend? or does he hold on until Monday? Much of his legacy will be decided on whether he stays consistent on his Saturday decree.


See sig...LOL.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:44 am
by JayMKE
jerrod wrote:
chuckleslove wrote:

Yep, just this past Thanksgiving, my grandpa knew everyone was coming in to town for the holiday which we normally didn't do for Thanksgiving, he hung on and passed away around noon on Thanksgiving day giving everyone just enough time to get there and say their last goodbyes. It is crazy how your body can hold on until there is that one last thing that needs to be done.


a similar thing happened right around christmas with my grandma a few years ago. there were lots of people at the hospital for days and then people went home to rest a little, she died.


This happened in my family just this past month. My grandmother passed away 3 days after Christmas this year. She was 85 and became pretty frail her last few months although no serious health problems. She was in a lot of pain just getting around and I knew deep down the last time I saw her she didn't have a lot of time. In retrospect, I really do think she was holding on for one more Christmas. I agree, it really is amazing how the body works.

As for Joe Paterno, it's a tragic situation all around. RIP Joe.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:12 pm
by jerrod
jakecronus8 wrote:I'm more than a little disturbed by the love he is getting on all the social media outlets and tv. I have no sympathy for a man who knowingly worked alongside a potential child rapist.


that's how i feel too

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:12 pm
by Newz
jakecronus8 wrote:I'm more than a little disturbed by the love he is getting on all the social media outlets and tv. I have no sympathy for a man who knowingly worked alongside a potential child rapist.


Yurp.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:15 pm
by emunney
jerrod wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:I'm more than a little disturbed by the love he is getting on all the social media outlets and tv. I have no sympathy for a man who knowingly worked alongside a potential child rapist.


that's how i feel too


Maybe I haven't been keeping up on the deadspinning (I definitely haven't been), but when did this happen? I thought the McQuery incident happened after Sandusky had already retired.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:23 pm
by WRau1
MickeyDavis wrote:I don't care one way or another. He's not the saint he's being portrayed as on the ESPN lovefest I'm watching now. He's just a football coach. RIP.

This was already being discussed in the college FB thread but there isn't much going on in football so we'll leave this thread up.



+1,000,000

Can't take his football accomplishments away but I can't stand how highly they talk up this guys character.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:46 pm
by ReasonablySober
A writer for the Times or Post or somewhere out East, youngish guy who worked as a campus reporter at PSU, shed a lot of light on what a joke the culture was under Paterno, particularly in the last twenty years. His players could get away with anything and suffer few consequences.

I'm sorry he passed away, but the deification he's getting is a joke.

Re: OT: Joe Paterno Dead At 85

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:51 pm
by MickeyDavis
The whole thing that he passed the Sandusky thing to his superiors is a joke too since he ran that place.