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PRO BOWL
Rodgers
Matthews

PB ALTERNATES
Tramon
Raji
Sitton
Cobb

ALL ROOKIE TEAM
Hayward

ROY - Hayward places 2nd
DPOY - Matthews places 2nd

James Jones I think has to be at least an alternate. He's low on yards but leads the league in receiving TDs.

I think Casey Hayward makes the pro bowl as well as John Kuhn based off name recognition and that he plays fb. Cobb will make it for KR/PR and maybe Jarret Bush for special teams (Never though id mention Jarret Bush and pro bowl in the same sentence lol)

I would be completely shocked if Matthews finishes second for DPOY. Missing the games he did took him out of the race.

Unless Watt or Aldon Smith test positive there's no way he finishes above either. Come to think of it, with Von Miller and Peanut, I think the highest he could realistically get is 5th. Geno Atkins had a beast year too.

We already have Rodgers, Kuhn, Saturday, Cobb (KR/PR), Woodson, and Clay leading their respective Pro Bowl voting categories. I think James Jones has an outside shot but probably won't make it. Casey has a better shot of winning DROY than making the Pro Bowl, IMO.

Last year we had 8 guys leading their positions in fan voting and only three of them made it on the team.

emunney wrote:Last year we had 8 guys leading their positions in fan voting and only three of them made it on the team.

How did that happen? I thought you make it if you win the fan voting?

humanrefutation wrote:

emunney wrote:Last year we had 8 guys leading their positions in fan voting and only three of them made it on the team.

How did that happen? I thought you make it if you win the fan voting?

Fan voting is only 1/3 of iy

chuckleslove wrote:

humanrefutation wrote:

emunney wrote:Last year we had 8 guys leading their positions in fan voting and only three of them made it on the team.

How did that happen? I thought you make it if you win the fan voting?

Fan voting is only 1/3 of iy

Oh. Well, it seems that the NFL has the best selection process for the worst All Star Game.

All the talk of doing away with this meaningless game and here it is, back again.

Rodgers, Saturday (LOLZ) and Matthews.

How in the hell did Saturday make it with the players/GMs voting?

They're usually clueless and go off of reputation as well.

Newz wrote:How in the hell did Saturday make it with the players/GMs voting?

Just a career achievement pick, IMO. He definitely didn't deserve it this year.

I know I was just on here a few weeks ago and said something in another thread that "I don't care about the individual accolades" mostly because the voting is bogus and I would rather just watch the team win...

However, you're going to tell me that the #7 scoring defense and #7 scoring offense only really had 2 relevant members that were Pro Bowlers? Plus, they had solid special teams (other than their kicker).

Pick one of Cobb, Jones, Tramon, Raji (based on name), Pickett, Masthay, Bush (ST), or Hayward.

I'm sure when I see the names I will be a bit less surprised as I am sure there are just some big name WRs that had great years (Megatron, Hoolio, Marshall, etc.) but it's kinda crazy that that is all they got.

The OL more than any other position is about reputation and career achievement. Still funny, though.

Agreed we should have more. But oh well.

If you go one by one you can't really make a case we deserved more, IMO. If anything we deserved less. More pro-bowlers = better team success is a fallacy. What our record indicates is we have good QB play and a solid roster top to bottom.

To me, the MVP should pretty much be determined on who wins the Packers-Vikings game this weekend.

If the Vikings win, All Day probably closed with at least a solid performance, to cap off a great year, in which his team accomplished something meaningful. So he should get the award.

If the Packers win, Rodgers probably closed with at least a solid performance, won the QB rating title, while being a plus runner of the football to boot, for a team who finished with an outstanding record.

But it'll likely go to either AD if he wins, or Manning if not. People will use the Seattle game and the standard he set against Rodgers. And they'll use the comeback story and the myth that he turned around the Broncos for Manning. For God's sake, the 3rd string QB on a team with a bad stable of passers this year, was 7-4, plus won a playoff game for the Broncos last year. Would Tebow put up a 7-4 pace and win a playoff game w/ this Packers' squad?

(I know I'm probably preaching to the choir on this stance, but I go against the grain enough).

Actually, if the Packers played Denver's joke of a schedule from last year, Tebow might have this team right around where Denver's team was last year. The only problem I'd see is they aren't built for Tebow (good running game).

A bunch of nailbiting/fluke wins against Miami, Oakland (aided completely by Carson Palmer), KC, the Jets, San Diego, the horrible Queens, and Cutler/Forte-less Bears. Outside of that flukey playoff win, they got manhandled by any decent team. The Jets and San Diego were mediocre but were falling apart last year.

Yes, if this Packer team was in that division and had Tebow at QB with that schedule, I wouldn't be shocked if they grabbed that record.

Tebow is a horrible QB, but given that he can run, Denver could run, their defense was improving, they have a great homefield advantage, and KC/Oak/Jets/Minnesota/Chicago without Cutler all had QB play almost as bad as Tebow...I would not be shocked at all if you told me the ball bounced their way in seemingly every Tebow game last year and they went 7-4.

I'm not necessarily saying Manning deserves it, but that Tebow run wasn't really shocking at all. They beat 7 awful teams with awful quarterbacks. I think Denver may be a bit overrated because of their schedule THIS year but they sure as hell are way way wayyyyy better off with Peyton Manning. Last year's Denver team if they had to play a real schedule probably wins 4-5 games. With Manning they are at 10-13 with a comparable schedule.

Denver's team last year went 8-8 with a -81 differential. That team sucked. It was a 4 win team that had a really easy schedule and a break or two. Manning has them at +157 this year. That's a 238 point swing. If you want to talk about just the offense, the Broncos are going to have probably 180 more points this year than last year. That's over 10 points/game more.