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Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:39 pm
by humanrefutation
Bill Barnwell did a nice take on TT's philosophy and its successes in Green Bay.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/952 ... luence-nfl

A great quote:
This is about to get very nerdy, but the conclusion's worth it. The picks and players Thompson acquired would be expected to (or, in the players' case, actually did) produce about 56.9 more Approximate Value points over their first five years than the ones he let go. To put that into context, the expected return of a player taken with the first overall pick, according to Stuart's study, is 34.6 Approximate Value points. In other words — and this is crazy — what Thompson did for his team with trades involving draft picks over this four-year stretch was like generating a first-overall pick and a seventh-overall pick out of nothing. Imagine if the league just handed the Packers two top-seven picks in next year's draft for free. That's what Thompson pulled off. Magic. That's some One red paperclip **** right there.


Wilford will probably not want to read that.

Re: Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:57 pm
by chuckleslove
This was probably my favorite and it is shocking when you lay it out as "one transaction"

Put it this way: Let's combine all of Thompson's trades from these four years into one mammoth deal. In that trade, he dealt away a first-round pick (the 30th selection), two second-round picks, one third-round pick, two fourth-round picks, a fifth-rounder, a sixth-rounder, two seventh-round picks, and two disgruntled players, Corey Williams and Javon Walker. In return for those nine picks and two players, Thompson received 26 selections: six second-rounders, two third-rounders, four fourth-rounders, four fifth-rounders, six sixth-rounders, four seventh-rounders, running back Ryan Grant, and a partridge brat.

Re: Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:20 pm
by Turk Nowitzki
Can't wait for WB to see this.

Re: Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:57 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Turk Nowitzki wrote:Can't wait for WB to see this.


He's probably typing away on the Bleacher Report article at this very moment.

I personally loved the portion right after Chuck's favorite:

This is about to get very nerdy, but the conclusion's worth it. The picks and players Thompson acquired would be expected to (or, in the players' case, actually did) produce about 56.9 more Approximate Value points over their first five years than the ones he let go. To put that into context, the expected return of a player taken with the first overall pick, according to Stuart's study, is 34.6 Approximate Value points. In other words — and this is crazy — what Thompson did for his team with trades involving draft picks over this four-year stretch was like generating a first-overall pick and a seventh-overall pick out of nothing. Imagine if the league just handed the Packers two top-seven picks in next year's draft for free. That's what Thompson pulled off. Magic. That's some One red paperclip **** right there.

Re: Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:02 pm
by chuckleslove
You should have read the part that was quoted by humanrefutation :P

Re: Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:09 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
chuckleslove wrote:You should have read the part that was quoted by humanrefutation :P


Haha, my bad. I just saw a Grantland article about TT in the first post and immediately dived. Then moved on to your post after I read the article. :oops:

Re: Grantland: The Coaching Tree of TT

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:11 pm
by chuckleslove
I did love that quote too, that entire section was money.