Raji has an $8 million/yr offer on table from the Packers

FAH1223 · Post #1 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:03 am

According to McGinn

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ ... 26061.html

Thoughts? I think it's an overpay and Raji is an idiot if he turns that down. He won't find an offer like that in March.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #2 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:06 am

He should be insta-accepting that deal.

bizarro · Post #3 » by **bizarro** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:11 am

If it's for the money, obviously he should instantly accept this deal. But, several contingencies are hinted at in the article. Raji wants to move back to the Nose. It's clear he's not into the 3-Technique but he's accepted the switch in a professional manner. I think it's clear he either wants to know Pickett is gone or he wants to go to a different scheme to have an opportunity to break off the line more. A multi-year deal like this speaks volumes. It's an amazingly fair deal so there has to be more to the story.

Post #4 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:26 am

The fact that he hasn't signed yet is interesting. I wonder if we'll pull this offer if Raji gets hurt or plays poorly down the stretch. Raji is taking a risk here.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #5 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:06 am

whatthe_buck!? · Post #6 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:07 am

Fair offer, maybe a slight overpay but for whatever faults Raji has as a player he does love being a Packer and has a lot of team pride so for that reason I'm ok with a bit of an over pay. And not that it's usually ever smart to pay for past performance but Raji was the man in the Super Bowl season, dude carried a heavy heavy heavy load so for that I could almost kind of justify it.

In fact imo the offer is still so fair that I'd be perfectly ok with him accepting and ok with him turning it down as well. The only thing that's truly certain, if he does accept that offer, is that he will surely suffer a horrific injury at some point before the end of this season and will probably miss most of next year as well...

SpursNBucks · Post #7 » by **SpursNBucks** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:12 am

Typical strategy of Thompson to keep his picks together (Call it unity) so he over-pays. Raji is a NT for sure. Pickett is over the hill. You would like to get a little pass rush from your 3-4 DE, Raji mainly covers up space against the run in that role.

eagle13 · Post #8 » by **eagle13** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:42 am

One disadvantage we have is b//c its well known that TT refuses to get into bidding -a team only has to offer a small amount more and he' theirs as TT never counters

eagle13 · Post #9 » by **eagle13** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:47 am

Raji & Jolly resign
Pickett & Wilson go

next yr's DL

LDE JonesJ / Daniels
NT Raji / Boyd
RDE Jolly / Worthy

Profound23 · Post #10 » by **Profound23** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:31 pm

Now watch the Packers pull the offer, he fishes for a better deal elsewhere, signs for 5mil a year with another team, then everyone will be whining that we didn't do enough to keep him.

TroyD92 · Post #11 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:07 pm

I hope they keep Shields above all.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #12 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:23 pm

TroyD92 wrote:I hope they keep Shields above all.

+1

eagle13 · Post #13 » by **eagle13** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:03 pm

keep - shields, jolly, raji, neal, eds, lattimore

if $ is tight -
cut Tramon
don't resign - finley, newhosue

if $ is REAL tight - also don't resign - jonesj, starks, Wilson,

Buckrageous · Post #14 » by **Buckrageous** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:37 am

Did he play today? I hope they pull that offer before its too late.

BigDee · Post #15 » by **BigDee** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:56 am

He is not worth it.

SpursNBucks · Post #16 » by **SpursNBucks** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:09 am

Buckrageous wrote:Did he play today? I hope they pull that offer before its too late.

I don't think he had any tackles or even assists. He was good the Super Bowl year, but has been below average since. In his defense they play him out of position- he is a PURE NT, not a LDE. The idea is to put three big pigs in there that can't rush the passer (DE should normally give you some pass rush), but can hold their ground and allow the LBs to flow to the ball. Problem- Hawk and Jones aren't very good. Matthews over-commits to the pass rush (only good pass rusher on team) and Perry is just a guy. Neal has had moments.

On the year Raji has a whopping 13 tackles and ZERO sacks, BUT go ahead and offer him $8mill/ year to continue playing out of position.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #17 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:17 am

This team went from being hyped as the next NFL dynasty to being a complete sh*tshow in less than 3 years. Maybe no one at all is to blame, maybe this is just the NFL now, but with a future Hall of Fame QB in his prime on the roster I tend to believe that what we're seeing is something more than just injuries. Pats lost Brady for the year and went 11-5 with Cassel at QB, I can't believe that the team is as devoid of talent as the suddenly resurgent blame-TT crowd would have us believe...

Buckrageous · Post #18 » by **Buckrageous** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:53 am

whatthe_buck!? wrote:This team went from being hyped as the next NFL dynasty to being a complete sh*tshow in less than 3 years. Maybe no one at all is to blame, maybe this is just the NFL now, but with a future Hall of Fame QB in his prime on the roster I tend to believe that what we're seeing is something more than just injuries. Pats lost Brady for the year and went 11-5 with Cassel at QB, I can't believe that the team is as devoid of talent as the suddenly resurgent blame-TT crowd would have us believe...

I'm not part of any "blame TT crowd" as I think overall he's a good GM. However, I would say his weaknesses as a GM are undervaluing other teams FAs and overvaluing some of his own, Raji being an example of the latter. $8 mil per does not seem to be a wise investment for a guy who doesn't really make plays (no I haven't forgotten the pick 6 against the Bears). He's a run stuffer strictly and not at all today. That has value but $8 mil Dl rush the passer too unless they are truly dominant against the run which he isn't.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #19 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:08 am

Buckrageous wrote:
whatthe_buck!? wrote:This team went from being hyped as the next NFL dynasty to being a complete sh*tshow in less than 3 years. Maybe no one at all is to blame, maybe this is just the NFL now, but with a future Hall of Fame QB in his prime on the roster I tend to believe that what we're seeing is something more than just injuries. Pats lost Brady for the year and went 11-5 with Cassel at QB, I can't believe that the team is as devoid of talent as the suddenly resurgent blame-TT crowd would have us believe...

I'm not part of any "blame TT crowd" as I think overall he's a good GM. However, I would say his weaknesses as a GM are undervaluing other teams FAs and overvaluing some of his own, Raji being an example of the latter. $8 mil per does not seem to be a wise investment for a guy who doesn't really make plays (no I haven't forgotten the pick 6 against the Bears). He's a run stuffer strictly and not at all today. That has value but $8 mil Dl rush the passer too unless they are truly dominant against the run which he isn't.

I would probably have to wait to the offseason to be more sure of myself but yea I mean I think I agree, based on what he's given us so far I'd say 8 mil is well high of what we should offer him...

Newz · Post #20 » by **Newz** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:25 pm

I'm usually behind TT and what he does... but if this is true and we retain Raji at ~$8 million a year, then I have no clue why he would do that.

We so rarely play the base 3-4 and even when we do it doesn't appear that Raji is a major impact player at NT. From what I have seen and read, he doesn't appear to grade out all that well as a DT when we play the 2-4 that we are in so often.

Not sure I see the logic behind this one. I assume it is because Pickett/Jolly are getting older and are unreliable. Maybe he envisions Daniels - Raji - Jones becoming a dominant three man front, which I guess I could see if Raji could turn back the clock 2-3 years to when he was actually very good.